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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    A large chunk of those are still in secondary school add 13 years of primary/secondary plus additional TY and you would wonder how many are in 6th yr that are 18 or even 19.

    How many 19 year olds are in secondary school... Jesus, unless they are very very slow... I would saw almost zero.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    very quiet Saturday all told.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    It is in this groups nature to socialise and ahem "interfere" with each other. It's like trying to tell the tide not to come in.

    I know, and they are mostly not impacted if they get the virus... But, people saying socialising isn't contributing to the growth... The data shows it is one of the main sources (I am not saying it is the only source)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    mloc123 wrote: »
    I know, and they are mostly not impacted if they get the virus... But, people saying socialising isn't contributing to the growth... The data shows it is one of the main sources (I am not saying it is the only source)
    Ah of course its causing lots of transmissions but short of locking them up there's not much gonna stop them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm open to the idea that school cases were hidden from that age heap map due to asymptomatic cases.

    It's really hard to know just purely from data.

    There is a big importance on schools being kept open. Which is understandable.

    The idea that there is large asymptomatic spread amongst children has been thoroughly debunked by the ONS unbiased random sample data in the UK. That shows the same picture - lower rates of infection in children than adults, and massively lower than young adults.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    On the high rate of infection in the 18-24 age group, people have also put forward the theory it is not due to house parties etc.. but instead that this age group make up a big percentage of the workforce in retail and hospitality.

    If that was true, closing retail and hospitality should also help reduce those levels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Ah of course its causing lots of transmissions but short of locking them up there's not much gonna stop them

    Yup, you can be 100% they are not sitting at home watching Tony trying to scare us all twice a week at the briefings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm open to the idea that school cases were hidden from that age heap map due to asymptomatic cases.

    It's really hard to know just purely from data.

    There is a big importance on schools being kept open. Which is understandable.
    The low positivity rate in school age groups suggests that percentage of asymptomatic cases being missed is low. It is lower than positivity rate in the rest of community.

    If positivity rate was higher than community, then that would suggest missing asymptomatic cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭SPDUB


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    Can someone explain why a comic book shop on mary street, Dublin is allowed to open but not a clothes shop?

    How are comic books essential?

    To be honest why is a shop that sells newspapers allowed to open but if it also sells magazines it can sell the newspapers but not the magazines


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    mloc123 wrote: »
    On the high rate of infection in the 18-24 age group, people have also put forward the theory it is not due to house parties etc.. but instead that this age group make up a big percentage of the workforce in retail and hospitality.

    If that was true, closing retail and hospitality should also help reduce those levels.
    If that were the case the high positivity rate in that age group through working in retail would have been seen earlier


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Sorry if this was already posted multiple times (if it was just once, then I'm not sorry), but I was just browsing https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

    312 in hospital now
    last 24 hours - 30 admissions, 36 discharges

    37 in ICU
    last 24 hours - 2 admissions, 1 discharge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Stheno wrote: »
    If that were the case the high positivity rate in that age group through working in retail would have been seen earlier

    Not saying I believe it. It is an argument I have seen made... "It isn't because that age group don't care and are partying... It is because they are forced to work in customer facing jobs"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Each green bar is a day on here where people freaked out.
    Each red bar is a day where people on here said "we've turned the corner"

    All the while the 5% exponential marched on regardless of your glass half filled / glass half empty outlook.

    I'd hope level 5 will do something to change this.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    How many deaths a day are we averaging now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Benimar


    969 positive swabs on 17,572 tests. 5.51% positivity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    More good news on the dashboard today. 969 swabs.5.51% positivity rate.

    Hands up who thinks the reproductive rate is still 1.3

    :) Happy Saturday everyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,100 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Benimar wrote: »
    969 positive swabs on 17,572 tests. 5.51% positivity

    Feels like it's been while since the last time that was under 1,000.

    Testing numbers very high too, 17.5k a day would be 122,500 in a week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Feels like it's been while since the last time that was under 1,000.

    Testing numbers very high too, 17.5k a day would be 122,500 in a week.

    It was under 1,000 as recently as Tuesday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Benimar wrote: »
    It was under 1,000 as recently as Tuesday

    But with a significantly higher positivity rate.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    More good news on the dashboard today. 969 swabs.5.51% positivity rate.

    Hands up who thinks the reproductive rate is still 1.3

    :) Happy Saturday everyone
    That's 9 days in a rows now its dropped

    Level three does appear to have had an affect once applied nationally


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Just a reminder - we had 1507 positive swabs last Saturday and it looked like it was spiralling out of control. What a difference a week makes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,100 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Stheno wrote: »
    That's 9 days in a rows now its dropped

    Level three does appear to have had an affect once applied nationally

    but but but level three wasn't working lol

    apparently we should have gone to level five as soon as Tony said so

    It would be great if the good trends keeps going


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭IrishStuff09


    Benimar wrote: »
    969 positive swabs on 17,572 tests. 5.51% positivity

    Great news. 7 day positivity has also dropped again to 6.2% from 6.6% yesterday! We were previously at 6.2% on October 14th with 1095 confirmed cases that day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,752 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    I think level 3 works, but doesn't drop it far enough. Level 5 will hopefully lower that number dramatically in the coming while and then back to level 3 where it can stabilise at said low number.... but.... *enforcement* is needed, as we saw Dublin wasn't dropping without enforcement.

    Heard a fairly stupid thing on the news yesterday, TD blaming the HSE for the spread in the community during the debate on fines. Yeah because the HSE goes out and polices the streets..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Think the max possible number today if they include the backlog of 200 is roughly 1100


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Level 3 worked, yet they ****ed the whole country into level 5. #ThanksTony


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I wouldn't go dissing level 5 just yet. 4 weeks of it could seriously seriously reduce the case numbers, more than initially thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    GazzaL wrote: »
    Level 3 worked, yet they ****ed the whole country into level 5. #ThanksTony

    I'd expect himself and Philip Nolan will apologise next week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    GazzaL wrote: »
    Level 3 worked, yet they ****ed the whole country into level 5. #ThanksTony

    I love positivity about numbers but I think the celebrations are a little too early.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,634 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    GazzaL wrote: »
    Level 3 worked, yet they ****ed the whole country into level 5. #ThanksTony

    The only thing level 3 done (or looks to be doing) is slowing the growth rate and eventually perhaps lower cases. But it's far too slow doing it.
    What it shows (we wouldn't have known if the government didn't try level 3) is that it's possible to open up straight to level 3 eventually and they should have data now to see how long we can sustain level 3.


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