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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Cases doubling week on week in the 10-14 age group and almost doubling in the 15-19.
    Mid term coming at the right time.

    530391.png

    Big increase in most age groups


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭Trouser Snake


    Covid compliance officer in the local petrol station yesterday on a power trip lining everyone up exactly on the spots in the deli queue.
    Tensions were needlessly heightened by her carry on, people were socially distancing just fine before she intervened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    mean gene wrote: »
    How are we in level 5 when all the shops are open -woodies, b and q,argos, mobile phone shops, chippers etc also most people are still at work strange one
    Yeah it's a completely different beast to March/April/May, very loose "lockdown"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,592 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Covid compliance officer in the local petrol station yesterday on a power trip lining everyone up exactly on the spots in the deli queue.
    Tensions were needlessly heightened by her carry on, people were socially distancing just fine before she intervened.

    Tensions were heightened by being asked to stand on a spot on the ground?

    Must have been a lot of hanger in that line for the Deli.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,282 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Covid compliance officer in the local petrol station yesterday on a power trip lining everyone up exactly on the spots in the deli queue.
    Tensions were needlessly heightened by her carry on, people were socially distancing just fine before she intervened.

    Yeh I think people now have a much better idea what two metres is and most naturally fall into that in a queue .Was in Aldi on Thursday and the queue was massive for the wooden toys .Everyone had a mask , everyone naturally fell in to a 2 metre spacing .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,296 ✭✭✭prunudo


    6 wrote: »
    It's an unfair comparison tbf.

    Peoples behaviour is considerly better now. Masks are worn by almost everyone. Sanitiser is in the every shop. People naturally distant from each other.

    Absolutely, but there's so many reasons to be out and about now its more like the end of May or start June now. They are going on about it being serious as we're in a level 5 lockdown, and while technically correct, its not what people imagine the worst level should be.
    Just think there's a disconnect between where those in charge think we are and where the public think we are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    Covid compliance officer in the local petrol station yesterday on a power trip lining everyone up exactly on the spots in the deli queue.
    Tensions were needlessly heightened by her carry on, people were socially distancing just fine before she intervened.

    Sounds absolutely terrifying.

    Those deli queues are war zones at the best of times.

    Stay strong brother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1024/1173638-coronavirus-world/?fbclid=IwAR0-zjMADvAC6bh8NfzEVmzaEuygOxr-ZhO-Dn6tcFOcu_gk8Cs0zFqv0nk
    The European Union's disease control agency has joined frantic health workers to sound the alarm over a coronavirus surge across the continent, as the World Health Organization warned of an "exponential" rise in infections.

    Even countries that avoided severe outbreaks during Europe's first wave of contagion in the spring have watched their case numbers surge, with Germany's death toll passing 10,000.

    Shin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Big increase in most age groups

    True but every school going age group has increased more than every other age group. :eek: Might have something to do with schools. Of course correlation does not mean causation.

    530392.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Great to see Level 5 restrictions have worked, huge drop in numbers since Thursday.

    At this rate we’ll be zero cases by next weekend.

    Zero covid? We will have negative Covid where dead people start coming back to life by next week.

    What a time to be alive.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    shinzon wrote: »

    They should take our example. Let the testing and contact and trace system falter. Numbers stop rising then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,153 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Covid compliance officer in the local petrol station yesterday on a power trip lining everyone up exactly on the spots in the deli queue.
    Tensions were needlessly heightened by her carry on, people were socially distancing just fine before she intervened.

    I think it's good there's some checks taking place, the fact she had to line people up suggests a problem?

    This said I'd have very serious doubt she would have any authority to intervene in anyway, certainly interact with manager /owner and then report but directing general public is a red herring.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭AUDI20


    Covid compliance officer in the local petrol station yesterday on a power trip lining everyone up exactly on the spots in the deli queue.
    Tensions were needlessly heightened by her carry on, people were socially distancing just fine before she intervened.

    Great to see someone doing the job they are suppose to be doing. Fair play


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,592 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    True but every school going age group has increased more than every other age group. :eek: Might have something to do with schools. Of course correlation does not mean causation.

    530392.png

    Didn't the Korean study suggest that the 10-14 age bracket could be the "best" at transmitting Covid?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    True but every school going age group has increased more than every other age group. :eek: Might have something to do with schools. Of course correlation does not mean causation.

    530392.png

    Oh no, someone is going to come along with a graph about pirates or something that they got at their FETAC level 1 statistics night class. Cringe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,514 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    They should take our example. Let the testing and contact and trace system falter. Numbers stop rising then.

    Well Berlin have issues now also

    https://twitter.com/SiobhanDowling/status/1319900406961635328?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Cases doubling week on week in the 10-14 age group and almost doubling in the 15-19.
    Mid term coming at the right time.

    530391.png

    Also a large increase in the age group of their parents.

    Must be a lot of bar still open on the QT.

    But it’s not the schools...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,592 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Blondini wrote: »
    Oh no, someone is going to come along with a graph about pirates or something that they got at their FETAC level 1 statistics night class. Cringe.

    None of that transmission is happening indoors in cramped over crowded poorly ventilated rooms.

    Because "data".

    Parents are picking it up ahhhh, out in the community somewhere :confused: and bringing it home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭Trouser Snake


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    I think it's good there's some checks taking place, the fact she had to line people up suggests a problem?

    This said I'd have very serious doubt she would have any authority to intervene in anyway, certainly interact with manager /owner and then report but directing general public is a red herring.

    Was thinking that. She has the owners authority to instruct people or ask them to exit the premises, soon as it gets heated though she needs to be very wary.
    Her involvement brings more problems than solving them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Also a large increase in the age group of their parents.

    Must be a lot of bar still open on the QT.

    But it’s not the schools...

    It clearly isn't. The reproductive rate has dropped to 1, and the schools are open. The data you are looking at predates the impact of nationwide level 3. So, yes, it was and is the pubs and social gatherings. Young adults have, by some margin, the highest infection rates.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Another proud sheep here.

    This week one of my kids sent me a facebook post they were disgusted by where people in a large midlands town were being invited to participate in a 'peaceful' no mask protest. The intention was to gather and then en masse enter the largest supermarket in town and spread out to infiltrate the whole building thus making known their opinion to the poor masked sheep. The organisers and anyone who was attracted to participate in such a manouevre are thundering gobshytes of very low intellect and not the giant brains they foolishly imagine themselves to be leading the sheeple from darkness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    People need to stop using the Spring as a baseline for comparing hospitalizations and ICU admissions against cases. It is clear that cases in Europe and beyond were in the thousands (some in the 5 digits) back then. Any comparison to first wave graphs as a meaningful barometer for majority of Countries is redundant as it ignores the fact that testing was not at level it is now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    I have to say the communications 'buy in' strategy for latest restrictions from the government is ineffective at best and non-existent at worst. Use of interactive multimedia that illustrates how virus spreads, and steps needed for suppression has been minimal.Take the index case that leads to say 40 odd infections, this could be used as a centrepiece for.a visual marketing campaign, as a public health broadcast over web and television to explain how cases quickly lead to clusters and consequences for public health and health system.

    Slogans are no longer working, ' Stay Safe' etc. worked back in March but is redundant now. I'm constantly reminded of Coronavirus risk via radio and on public transport but I'd argue this type of repetitive and intrusive communications is counter-prodyctive as pandemic fatigue sets in. We need more innovative and informative communication strategies (that avoid condescension) to get people's attention and ultimately buy-in.

    Was saying as much to a friend a a few days ago. Communication has been really awful, almost a complete failure.

    But I do get exasperated when I see and hear people saying Ireland is the only country to have restrictions, when Wales is totally locked down from today as just the closest example.

    It’s just like February in many respects, only I think it will be ultimately be much worse as people have lost any fear.

    There are more than 4000 people in hospital in the Czech Republic with a population just twice ours.

    France and Belgium are on the way to a catastrophe with their health systems which are leagues ahead of ours.

    Why people think we will be any different is puzzling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,592 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    It clearly isn't. The reproductive rate has dropped to 1, and the schools are open. The data you are looking at predates the impact of nationwide level 3. So, yes, it was and is the pubs and social gatherings. Young adults have, by some margin, the highest infection rates.
    Prof Nolan said the reproductive rate is estimated at around 1.3 and 1.4

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Boggles wrote: »
    .

    That was based on data up until Tuesday. We have had 3 further days of flat case numbers. Dr Nolan's numbers will update next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Was saying as much to a friend a a few days ago. Communication has been really awful, almost a complete failure.

    But I do get exasperated when I see and hear people saying Ireland is the only country to have restrictions, when Wales is totally locked down from today as just the closest example.

    It’s just like February in many respects, only I think it will be ultimately be much worse as people have lost any fear.

    There are more than 4000 people in hospital in the Czech Republic with a population just twice ours.

    France and Belgium are on the way to a catastrophe with their health systems which are leagues ahead of ours.

    Why people think we will be any different is puzzling.

    Indeed, people love to paint this picture that we have one of most restrictive measures as if we are this massive outlier/exception. We are not, we were just slightly ahead of certain European countries who have been slow to react to impacts of a second wave.I have no doubt that if we had remained in Level 2 restrictions our case numbers would be much higher

    Go to Victoria if you want to experience what restrictive measures really feel like. A heads up, you will be forced into a 2-week mandatory quarantine on arrival, something that doesn't exist as a requirement on this island.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,592 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    That was based on data up until Tuesday. We have had 3 further days of flat case numbers. Dr Nolan's numbers will update next week.

    Sorry "we"?

    Da Fuq?

    You mean you have pulled an R number out of you arsé?

    Show your work if that isn't the case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭Trouser Snake


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    This week one of my kids sent me a facebook post they were disgusted by where people in a large midlands town were being invited to participate in a 'peaceful' no mask protest. The intention was to gather and then en masse enter the largest supermarket in town and spread out to infiltrate the whole building thus making known their opinion to the poor masked sheep. The organisers and anyone who was attracted to participate in such a manouevre are thundering gobshytes of very low intellect and not the giant brains they foolishly imagine themselves to be leading the sheeple from darkness.

    Now you're just taking me out of context.
    Hang on to your veiled insults for elsewhere, I'm sure you'll find somewhere on your social media network for them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    I believe that's called "pulling an Irish".

    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/irish-media-needs-to-take-a-look-at-how-it-is-covering-pandemic-1.4389265
    Whilst I agree that the media are definitely contributing to the anxiety people feel, it's really more the contention that actually does exist between NPHET, HSE and government that gets people on edge.

    Also I want to know what their metric is for saying mental health problems didn't rise during the last lockdown, because personally I'm a fucking shadow of my former self even if I didn't access any mental health services; not to be flippant, but I think about suicide on the regular these days, and worry about many friends and family who are in similarly fragile places. With no social interaction, no entertainment, the job losses and evictions on the way, winter, there's absolutely no way most people are getting out unscathed and it's probably healthier to acknowledge the mental scars.

    Weekly or bi-weekly figures, I don't really know about that. Yeah could work I guess. I dunno.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene



    I actually don't see the problem with people doing their own contacting lazy gits


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