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Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

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    #3782
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    It will be even harder to see from Moscow after he does a runner next year

    What do you mean.. it will be hard to see this from Moscow?
    who cares , you cant take it with you anyways.
    But he has lived in it for 20 years, how bad. And his kids can enjoy it.
    . as to taste, if peopel dont like it then they probably dont like the French masterpiece - Versailles Hall of Mirrors.

    It really is a cracking pad, what a view, imagine it on a clear day with sun shining, and reflecting on all that gold plating.
    duploelabs wrote: »
    ic80nl53tst51.jpg


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    #3783
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    stefanovich wrote: »
    What I am saying is if you step back and think about think rationally he benefited the country a lot and contributed to the economy immensely.

    bigly


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    #3784
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    stefanovich wrote: »
    What I am saying is if you step back and think about think rationally he benefited the country a lot and contributed to the economy immensely.

    Does that make him a better person than say a school teacher or a guy who sweeps the road?
    I'm not sure how him benefitting the economy means anything in relation to you claiming people are jealous of him.


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    #3785
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    salmocab wrote: »
    Does that make him a better person than say a school teacher or a guy who sweeps the road?
    I'm not sure how him benefitting the economy means anything in relation to you claiming people are jealous of him.

    Do some research on the state NY was in before Trump launched into his real estate empire and rejuvenated whole neighbourhoods and the harbour area.

    If you think thousands of people didnt benefit form him haranguing City Hall, dealing with unions, teamsters, mobsters and low lifes to create vibrant safe and prosperous zones peopel wanted to live in..
    then perhaps you could enlighten us as to how you would have turned 10s of City blocks in the Big Apple into the sort of places we all enjoy seeing when we visit NY these days. Dont forget NY was on the verge of bankruptcy at the time with teachers, police officers all looking at layoffs and no pensions..
    So how would you have turned all that around. You seem to think he was useless at it.


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    #3786
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,448 ✭✭✭weisses


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    It really is a cracking pad, what a view, imagine it on a clear day with sun shining, and reflecting on all that gold plating.

    Not good for the skin

    tenor.gif?itemid=7399706


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    #3787
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    salmocab wrote: »
    Does that make him a better person than say a school teacher or a guy who sweeps the road?
    I'm not sure how him benefitting the economy means anything in relation to you claiming people are jealous of him.

    I am saying that people are attempting to leverage envy. Classic tactics of the left.


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    #3788
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    RIGOLO, what's the general New Yorker view of Trump then? If he was so brilliant for the city?


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    #3789
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    RIGOLO, what's the general New Yorker view of Trump then? If he was so brilliant for the city?

    they loathe him


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    #3790
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,448 ✭✭✭weisses


    stefanovich wrote: »
    He paid a lot more than that and you know it.

    I have explained it before, it is to encourage property development.

    Would you prefer high taxes and soviet style architecture?

    See i knew you would bring in the socialist angle .... There is a bit of a gap between paying 750 dollars of tax as a billionaire and full blown socialism or communism ...

    I see no reason to develop property as a business model and pay proper taxes


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    #3791
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    eagle eye wrote: »
    The primary goal is to become POTUS. When that's achieved he can go address this issue if he wishes but not before then.
    I don't think Biden's voters care about the laptop.
    Joe could kill a prostitute - he's still better than Trump in their eyes and will get their vote.


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    #3792
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Do some research on the state NY was in before Trump launched into his real estate empire and rejuvenated whole neighbourhoods and the harbour area.

    If you think thousands of people didnt benefit form him haranguing City Hall, dealing with unions, teamsters, mobsters and low lifes to create vibrant safe and prosperous zones peopel wanted to live in..
    then perhaps you could enlighten us as to how you would have turned 10s of City blocks in the Big Apple into the sort of places we all enjoy seeing when we visit NY these days. Dont forget NY was on the verge of bankruptcy at the time with teachers, police officers all looking at layoffs and no pensions..
    So how would you have turned all that around. You seem to think he was useless at it.

    Yeah defo, I mean he really did have some "unique" tenancy policies and and a certain, how do I put this, je ne sais quoi, when it came to paying the people who built those places.


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    #3793
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    @RIGOLO; 9% for Trump in the Bronx in 2016, 9% in Manhattan, 21% in Queens........and have you any idea of his reputation among contractors and small business owners who had dealings with him and his businesses in New York and New Jersey?


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    #3794
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    biko wrote: »
    I don't think Biden's voters care about the laptop.
    Joe could kill a prostitute - he's still better than Trump in their eyes and will get their vote.

    you're right, joe could kill a prostitute and he would still be more fit for the job of president than trump. i'm not sure that is the zinger you thought it was.


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    #3795
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    weisses wrote: »
    See i knew you would bring in the socialist angle .... There is a bit of a gap between paying 750 dollars of tax as a billionaire and full blown socialism or communism ...

    I see no reason to develop property as a business model and pay proper taxes

    But you want to stop people from using losses to write off their tax bill?

    Which means no private development or subsidies which is materially the same as reducing tax bill but less efficient so more expensive for the state.

    Or you get soviet style developments?

    Just wondering what your approach would be?


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    #3796
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    yeah you got me there.. .

    the man who the left says is bad at business is probably not seeing much of the Manhattan skyline from his gold plated penthouse suite in the 50 story tower he built and is named after him, becasue he is spending time in Washington and at the 128 room resort in Florida he owns that his 'bad at business' acumen earned him.

    Thanks for that picture
    I imagine sitting in a gold plated armchair, in a gold plated suite, gazing out from on high on arguably the most powerful city in the world, knowing you own every square foot of the skyscraper you live in, with your own private escalator, must be intoxicating, no need for drink or drugs, imagine the rush.
    If only to take 5 mins to reflect and say yeah this is good.

    Imagine what is must be like to be the children running around that place, look I can see my school , now keep your feet off the gold plating.
    What a laugh that must be.

    Yep election looming, perhaps TRump will have to return to this hovel and get back to being the 'bad businessman' the left have been harping on about for 4 years. And whilst sitting 50 floors up, in a gold plated suite, he can reflect and say .. yep , that was a blast, 4 years as President of America , only been 46 of us .. now whats next..

    Gold plated is a great analogy for Trump. It appears to be valuable but underneath it’s something cheap.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #3797
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    RIGOLO, what's the general New Yorker view of Trump then? If he was so brilliant for the city?

    That depends..
    if you expereinced NY in the 70s or early 80s you loved him and still do. You saw what it was like and you recognised someone who cleaned up the filth, and put some life into the place . For want of a better word.. he was a 'god' in that city for decades .

    If you grew up in the 90s or 2000s, you take all that for granted, the gentrification the safe neighbourhoods, the harbour, restauraunts , Time Sq and have 'cancelled' the work he did that led to all of that as you swallow the 24x7 tds bile. So you have a different opinion.
    Its Montypythonesue .. what have the romans (Trump) ever done for us..and for aqueduct you have plenty of equivalents.

    We are seeing the fruition of a entitled self absorbed generation who were spoilt and dont understand hsitory or realities or whats required to get somethign done.

    I dont take anyone who says he is a bad buisnessman seriously. Its not even debatable, what he did in NY and did thru the 90s to where he was before running for election is almost unparralleled.
    (cue the posts with examples of a Trump failed business ... you see like I said they dont understand realities... near every succesfull buisness man has had failures and continues to have them)


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    #3798
    astrofool
    Registered Users Posts: 16,496 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    What do you mean.. it will be hard to see this from Moscow?
    who cares , you cant take it with you anyways.
    But he has lived in it for 20 years, how bad. And his kids can enjoy it.
    . as to taste, if peopel dont like it then they probably dont like the French masterpiece - Versailles Hall of Mirrors.

    It really is a cracking pad, what a view, imagine it on a clear day with sun shining, and reflecting on all that gold plating.

    a) he inherited his wealth from his Daddy
    b) it looks like he's blown most of it and is a few hundred million in the red
    c) he'll probably be fine because he'll milk his idiot supporters for the money needed to keep him in that style post presidency
    d) I don't imagine he'll have much of an inheritance to pass on at the end, beyond name recognition


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    #3799
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,448 ✭✭✭weisses


    stefanovich wrote: »
    But you want to stop people from using losses to write off their tax bill?

    Writing off 70 k for hairstyling .... Yeah that is taken the piss ... Or is he unable to develop housing with his hair all tangled up ?


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    #3800
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    RIGOLO wrote: »
    Do some research on the state NY was in before Trump launched into his real estate empire and rejuvenated whole neighbourhoods and the harbour area.

    If you think thousands of people didnt benefit form him haranguing City Hall, dealing with unions, teamsters, mobsters and low lifes to create vibrant safe and prosperous zones peopel wanted to live in..
    then perhaps you could enlighten us as to how you would have turned 10s of City blocks in the Big Apple into the sort of places we all enjoy seeing when we visit NY these days. Dont forget NY was on the verge of bankruptcy at the time with teachers, police officers all looking at layoffs and no pensions..
    So how would you have turned all that around. You seem to think he was useless at it.

    Your going to have to either go ahead and show me where I said any of that stuff or you should stop making up stuff.


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    #3801
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    weisses wrote: »
    Writing off 70 k for hairstyling .... Yeah that is taken the piss ... Or is he unable to develop housing with his hair all tangled up ?

    I suppose one could argue that is business related when he is the face of the business empire.

    Have you looked at Macron recently?


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    #3802
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    weisses wrote: »
    Writing off 70 k for hairstyling .... Yeah that is taken the piss ... Or is he unable to develop housing with his hair all tangled up ?

    writing off the costs of his hairdresser is not the issue. the issue is that he wrote off an expense that somebody else paid for. I'm pretty sure that is called tax fraud.


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    #3803
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    Brian? wrote: »
    Gold plated is a great analogy for Trump. It appears to be valuable l but underneath it’s something cheap.

    So your calling the wonder of French Louis XIV architectural masterpiece Versailles Hall Of Mirrors .. cheap !
    Thats interesting ..

    Ive done a bit of gold plating in my life, some small bits of furniture and frames. Have you ?
    Its pretty expensive for the material , but the real cost is for the expertise they charge a fortune.
    Nothing cheap about it.

    The left TDS is always finding new ways to alter reality .. they now claim that a gold plated 50th floor penthouse suite in Manhattan is cheap or tasteles.

    Anyways I can see littles changed here, lots of money to be made before election day and nothing any of us can do about the election result. Its been a blast for 4 years. May the best ballot harversters win (joke)


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    #3804
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,448 ✭✭✭weisses


    astrofool wrote: »
    a) he inherited his wealth from his Daddy
    b) it looks like he's blown most of it and is a few hundred million in the red
    c) he'll probably be fine because he'll milk his idiot supporters for the money needed to keep him in that style post presidency
    d) I don't imagine he'll have much of an inheritance to pass on at the end, beyond name recognition

    He did the same when he became president, He inherited a very healthy USA and he is destroying it now by creating a deficit as high as Trump tower


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    #3805
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,448 ✭✭✭weisses


    stefanovich wrote: »
    I suppose one could argue that is business related when he is the face of the business empire.

    Have you looked at Macron recently?

    I am not saying this is a Trump only thing .... Im not that naïve


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    #3806
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    weisses wrote: »
    Wrong !! The real question should be why a billionaire only paid 750 dollars in tax

    He's not a billionaire, it's all smoke and mirrors. He's burned through 3 fortunes, and only the office of President is keeping the wolf from the door.

    He's so far underwater he can't even see broke from there. That's why he was keeping his taxes secret - not because of Russian money or Saudi money: because of no money.


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    #3807
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you're right, joe could kill a prostitute and he would still be more fit for the job of president than trump.
    Quoted for posterity. The voice of a Biden supporter.


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    #3808
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,286 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    biko wrote: »
    Quoted for posterity. The voice of a Biden supporter.

    no, just the voice of somebody who realises what a ****ty individual Trump is and always has been. the truth of course is that biden would never kill anybody. Trump on the other hand, well, he probably wouldn't do it himself as he is too much of a coward.


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    #3809
    RIGOLO
    Site Banned Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭RIGOLO


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    He's not a billionaire, it's all smoke and mirrors. He's burned through 3 fortunes, and only the office of President is keeping the wolf from the door.

    He's so far underwater he can't even see broke from there. That's why he was keeping his taxes secret - not because of Russian money or Saudi money: because of no money.

    and here you have it folks, when he isnt in his 128 room resort mansion in FLorida, this broke dude has to rock up here to hide from the debt collectors

    oh Donald where did it all go wrong.. where did you lose it all .
    Pull up one of your gold plated chairs and lets discuss where you lost your fortune as we gaze out from your tower 50 floors up over Manahattan.. my listerners would like to know
    duploelabs wrote: »
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    #3810
    Scotty #
    Registered Users Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    He's not a billionaire...
    astrofool wrote: »
    a) it looks like he's blown most of it and is a few hundred million in the red

    According to Forbes and NYT he's still worth about $2.5B after all his debts.


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    #3811
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    writing off the costs of his hairdresser is not the issue. the issue is that he wrote off an expense that somebody else paid for. I'm pretty sure that is called tax fraud.

    that he is accused of writing off


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