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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #3782
    Captain_Crash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    There clearly is financial gain - a company is being paid by the government to provide a service - why would that be a negative?

    Its not necessarily a negative. But again it leads to what can only be described a vested interest. How much advertising revenue does a regional station like Clare FM or Northern Sound pull in per year? It aint 90K.

    So I can understand the want to peddle covid all day everyday... money talks.


  • #3783
    Rrrrrr2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Yes just heard mobile phone shops staying open, oddly most are franchise that don't facilitate click and collect, how's that going to work?

    Heard Argos is the same. Staying open by click collect and appointments- they all should and must do this. Serve from the front doors if you must. Stay open and keep in business at all costs. This is about survival


  • #3784
    Dempo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,111 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Anyone have a answer to a simple question, Food Shopping and this 5km rule. I live very rural, nearest shopping district 19km away, how the F@€K is that going to work, are they handing out bow & arrows so we can going hunting. I'm seeing nothing that suggests food shopping classified as essential?

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • #3785
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Rrrrrr2 wrote: »
    By opening my two ears and listening to their (Govt funded) diatribe of hysteria

    :pac:


  • #3786
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Plenty folk out there doing marginally better on PUP than they would in work too - does that fall into a conspiracy also?

    There clearly is financial gain - a company is being paid by the government to provide a service - why would that be a negative?


    If minimum wage in the country is 10 euros, and PUP for the week is 350 euros, thats 35 hours of work essentially at a minimum wage. And you are saying "doing better on PUP than they would in work"

    What are you talking about? You mean like people who were getting less than minimum wage when working are now getting more or same money as on minimum wage at 35 hours per week work?

    Have you been watching RTE? Thats kinda my only guess at why you can be so mislead, to believe the rubbish you just posted...


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  • #3787
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,087 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    charlie14 wrote: »
    I gave you the answer to the question. Those 1.12 million deaths are listed by the individual countries as being due to Covid-19. As in given as the cause of death on the death certificates.

    That is your statement about which I had the question, not the answer to my question.

    My question was posed here

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114995056&postcount=3706

    As can be seen I emboldended and coloured RED what I was emphasing in my question.


  • #3788
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    If minimum wage in the country is 10 euros, and PUP for the week is 350 euros, thats 35 hours of work essentially at a minimum wage. And you are saying "doing better on PUP than they would in work"

    What are you talking about? You mean like people who were getting less than minimum wage when working are now getting more or same money as on minimum wage at 35 hours per week work?

    Have you been watching RTE? Thats kinda my only guess at why you can be so mislead, to believe the rubbish you just posted...

    So everyone works full time is what you're saying?


  • #3789
    3xh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭3xh


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Is it? How so?

    Well, money going towards these media groups keeps the lights on, the share price somewhat up and the salary of the journalists in question paid.

    Search Irish media revenues and distribution since 2000. Online subscriptions aren’t enough to match the decline.

    Throw in the clear career progression of ex-journalists becoming TD advisers/secretaries etc etc and why would an average run of the mill journo risk that outlet by being too investigative?


  • #3790
    Dempo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,111 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    If minimum wage in the country is 10 euros, and PUP for the week is 350 euros, thats 35 hours of work essentially at a minimum wage. And you are saying "doing better on PUP than they would in work"

    What are you talking about? You mean like people who were getting less than minimum wage when working are now getting more or same money as on minimum wage at 35 hours per week work?

    Have you been watching RTE? Thats kinda my only guess at why you can be so mislead, to believe the rubbish you just posted...

    Just amazes me how little people understand PUP, firstly €350 reduced to €300 with only a percentage getting it returned to full amount next week, equally not all were even on the higher amount, alot on €250 and as many on €203 pw. The wage subsidy scheme's have infact cost far more than PUP ever would

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • #3791
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    So everyone works full time is what you're saying?

    Part time staff are on 203 - 250 euros since June. I actually think 203 euros.

    Thats social welfare level.

    Again I am just very concerned you have no idea what you are talking about - can you elaborate on your statement below to shine some light? Or is that just rubbish?

    "Plenty folk out there doing marginally better on PUP than they would in work too"


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  • #3792
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Just amazes me how little people understand PUP, firstly €350 reduced to €300 with only a percentage getting it returned to full amount next week, equally not all were even on the higher amount, alot on €250 and as many on €203 pw. The wage subsidy scheme's have infact cost far more than PUP ever would

    Yes, thousands of people get less than 1k a month.

    But apparently thats "marginally better than if working" according to 1 poster. :rolleyes:


  • #3793
    pgj2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,029 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Anyone have a answer to a simple question, Food Shopping and this 5km rule. I live very rural, nearest shopping district 19km away, how the F@€K is that going to work, are they handing out bow & arrows so we can going hunting. I'm seeing nothing that suggests food shopping classified as essential?




    what did you do for food during the last lockdown?:confused:


  • #3794
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    :pac:

    If you think there is an unbiased media organisation anywhere in the world then you are not paying much attention to media output. All media organisations have always had a bias to a degree. The problem is that it is becoming more and more pronounced. This, in tandem with the falling standards in journalism, is contributing to more and more people getting their 'news' from social media. The whole thing is becoming a mess.


  • #3795
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    what did you do for food during the last lockdown?:confused:

    Are you sure you want to know what OP did for food in the first lockdown? ;)


  • #3796
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Yes, thousands of people get less than 1k a month.

    But apparently thats "marginally better than if working" according to 1 poster. :rolleyes:

    You're gas, see you in a few days :)


  • #3797
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    You're gas, see you in a few days :)

    See you. Enjoy the break, read up on PUP (Pandemic unemployment payment) if you get some spare time.

    Chat with them "folks" who are marginally better off on PUP that doesnt even cover minimum wage per hour. :rolleyes:


  • #3798
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    €50-100 fine for not breaking up a house party?

    Fiver entry fee...... sorted

    They're not even trying to address the actual problems....


  • #3799
    Don't Chute!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    end of the road wrote: »
    it's simply advising the few who may be desperate enough to want to go outdoor dining how they should dress for the occasion, after all it is, you know, effectively winter (or to be technical, autumn but with wintery conditions)
    no hysteria there.

    Only someone like you could find something like that informative.


  • #3800
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Anyone have a answer to a simple question, Food Shopping and this 5km rule. I live very rural, nearest shopping district 19km away, how the F@€K is that going to work, are they handing out bow & arrows so we can going hunting. I'm seeing nothing that suggests food shopping classified as essential?

    If you're challenged tell the Garda that any attempt to interfere with your food supply is a breach of numerous international laws and human rights memoranda including the Geneva Convention.


  • #3801
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Yes just heard mobile phone shops staying open, oddly most are franchise that don't facilitate click and collect, how's that going to work?

    Mobile phones and repairs are essential


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  • #3802
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Noxx is probably finding out address of these "experts" :pac:

    A former Fianna Fáil minister is among a group of Irish doctors calling on the Government its change its pandemic strategy to “co-existing” with Covid-19.

    GP and ex-Donegal TD Jim McDaid is one of 15 signatories to a letter to Government that proposes a “proportionate de-escalation of the current exclusive focus on Covid-19 to the exclusion of all other health and wellbeing needs of our Irish society”.

    Lockdown measures have little impact on the disease, according to the letter, sent to the Taoiseach, Tánaiste and Minister for Health.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/doctors-letter-calls-for-new-strategy-to-co-exist-with-covid-19-1.4384968

    Change is coming. It has to come. Too many have lost too much because of so few.


  • #3803
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    sabat wrote: »
    If you're challenged tell the Garda that any attempt to interfere with your food supply is a breach of numerous international laws and human rights memoranda including the Geneva Convention.

    Make sure to ask him is he on his oath, I think the hat also gives him special powers


  • #3804
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,062 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Can't believe anyone is buying into the waiting for a vaccine strategy, it's absurd. I really wonder is Leo setting MM up for a fall and Tony along with him.


  • #3805
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Can't believe anyone is buying into the waiting for a vaccine strategy, it's absurd. I really wonder is Leo setting MM up for a fall and Tony along with him.

    Leo is quite a tactician.

    He will be having interviews next week where he ll be surprised we have strictest lockdown in Europe.


  • #3806
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Mcntee just on rte saying outdoor groups above 12 will be asked to wear masks. Where does it say outdoor masks are mandatory when in groups above 12??? Wtf..


  • #3807
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,062 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Leo is quite a tactician.

    He will be having interviews next week where he ll be surprised we have strictest lockdown in Europe.

    Yea this time it's all FF, most interviews today were all FF guys, it's their plan, FG keeping well out of it.


  • #3808
    sabat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Make sure to ask him is he on his oath, I think the hat also gives him special powers

    Sorry? Is that supposed to be some kind of 'Freeman' jibe? My post is 100% accurate.


  • #3809
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,627 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Tony is cute, said an R number of 0.5 would mean we could celebrate Christmas.

    It wasn’t 0.5 during Summer


  • #3810
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sarah McInerney on RTE just clarified too that a bubble with another family CAN be outside your 5km, it can even be in another county, any county, no restriction. Thats good.


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  • #3811
    Dempo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,111 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    what did you do for food during the last lockdown?:confused:

    That stupid question again, if you recall (perhaps not) 20km was the limit, leaving me 1km)

    Anything helpful to add???

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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