Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Golfman64 · 20-10-2020 05:42PM

screamer wrote: »

Probably over the 200k mark so at this stage.

Either way and whether you agree with his position on current matters or not, that is not an excessive amount given the role, to be fair.

lawred2 · 20-10-2020 05:43PM

risteard7 wrote: »

97% of people who died had a chronic underlying respiratory condition. A virus so "deadly" you have to have a test to make sure you even have it. Good luck

do you have official stats to back that up?

seamus · 20-10-2020 05:43PM

13 deaths probably from nursing homes.

That's what the big hitter was the last round. Something like 50% of all deaths didn't even make it to hospital, and those that did were only moved to ICU if there was any hope.

Necro · 20-10-2020 05:43PM

normanoffside wrote: »

That's not what they said at all.

Close contacts are asked to test on day 1 and if Negative return for a second test on day 7.

50% don't return for a second test on day 7 after testing negative the first time.

Well I can shed some personal experience light on that.

Wife and kids close contacts of mine, so needed retesting.

Received the appointment for my wife two hours before her re-test this morning.

Nothing on the kids.

I'm back to WFH since yesterday, but my boss was understanding enough to let me drive them to the test centre.

Only when we got to the test centre did we find out the kids were scheduled too, but at a different time, and the appointments had been sent to a wrong number.

So the tracers are making a LOT of mistakes.

They also had my wife's DOB incorrect, apparently she is 21 with a 6 and 3 year old.... what the hell does that make me :eek:

caveat emptor · 20-10-2020 05:44PM

Huh so they assume that the kid in school got it at home. Regardless of when public health contact the family.

So if a kid gets symptoms and subsequently tests positive. They are deemed a "complex contact"

By the time they get round to contacting the family they are probably infected and so can be deemed to have contracted the virus at home.

Handy circular logic that. Nothing to see.

10000maniacs · 20-10-2020 05:44PM

13 dead today. RIP. That is a nasty swing.

Mantis Toboggan · 20-10-2020 05:45PM

screamer wrote: »

Probably over the 200k mark so at this stage.

All that money and then leaky Leo gave him the freedom of Dublin before throwing him under the bus and reversing back over him.

giveitholly · 20-10-2020 05:45PM

So according to Thomas Ryan on Matt Cooper it could be a year before we have a vaccine and we might never have one, Also Zero-Covid is the only way to go!!!!

fritzelly · 20-10-2020 05:45PM

Tony putting George Lee in his place and using an analogy you would use for a kid lmao

risteard7 · 20-10-2020 05:45PM

You are Wrong, a statement was read out from the HSE yesterday. Go look it up and dont give me anymore nonsense or spin

Miike · 20-10-2020 05:45PM

risteard7 wrote: »

97% of people who died had a chronic underlying respiratory condition. A virus so "deadly" you have to have a test to make sure you even have it. Good luck

Do you think making up figures qualifies your statement? 18.3% of people who have died of COVID19 in Ireland had an underlying chronic respiratory condition (figures accurate up to the 17th of October 2020).

Don't let reality get in the way of your vacuous polemic.

blade1 · 20-10-2020 05:46PM

SortingYouOut wrote: »

So saying he's a doctor is a bit of a stretch then?

If he is a physio he'd be good at stretching.

Jinglejangle69 · 20-10-2020 05:46PM

seamus wrote: »

13 deaths probably from nursing homes.

That's what the big hitter was the last round. Something like 50% of all deaths didn't even make it to hospital, and those that did were only moved to ICU if there was any hope.

NHPET very careful not to get the blame for the nursing homes this time around.

No messing about, level 5.

Blondini · 20-10-2020 05:46PM

risteard7 wrote: »

NEPHET will be delighted

What does that even mean?
Have a good look at yourself there horse.

joe40 · 20-10-2020 05:46PM

SortingYouOut wrote: »

So saying he's a doctor is a bit of a stretch then?

No he is a doctor. I think he trained as a physio first and then trained as a doctor. Quite common in medicine to be a graduate entry.

Paddygreen · 20-10-2020 05:46PM

Jenna James wrote: »

Those figures are stark..

They are also sobering, terrifying, petrifying, horrendous, grim, awful, appalling, harrowing, spine chilling, and hair-raising. The next six weeks will be crucial while we are in it together as we stay home holding firm to stay safe going forward.

risteard7 · 20-10-2020 05:47PM

lawred2 wrote: »

do you have official stats to back that up?

HSE statement from RTE news yesterday

Signore Fancy Pants · 20-10-2020 05:47PM

niallo27 wrote: »

I would give level 3 a chance anyway, we have had 7 days of stable numbers after exponential growth. Our deaths and icu numbers have remained stable, hospitals are no where near getting overwhelmed despite all talk of 2 weeks away. We have to learn to live with this and accept we are in a pandemic.

What were the reported figures at the announcement of Level 3 restrictions in Dublin compared to today?

Surely if level 3 worked, numbers would have reduced significantly.

Arghus · 20-10-2020 05:47PM

screamer wrote: »

I think the dates and targets and unrealistic and unachievable. It’s like saying I’m gonna lose 4 stone in 6 weeks, rather than break it down into smaller milestones which may be more achievable. They’re losing the pubic even more every time they have their big press conferences.

But there's no winning here. If they announce harsher measures for three weeks then people will complain it's not going to do enough. If they announce a longer period, people will complain that it's too draconian and that it will ruin Christmas. I think 6 weeks is honestly probably the fairest compromise to keep people on side and they couldn't be clearer in terms of what they regard as success.

nacho libre · 20-10-2020 05:48PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Tony putting George Lee in his place and using an analogy you would use for a kid lmao

What did he say to him exactly?

boardise · 20-10-2020 05:49PM

branie2 wrote: »

Let's hope we can get things under control during the six weeks

I co-hope with you.

screamer · 20-10-2020 05:49PM

Paddygreen wrote: »

They are also sobering, terrifying, petrifying, horrendous, grim, awful, appalling, harrowing, spine chilling, and hair-raising. The next six weeks will be crucial while we are in it together as we stay home holding firm to stay safe going forward.

Are you surprised though really? Double digit deaths were only a matter of time. I’m not surprised a bit, no, I am, I’m surprised it’s not more. Very sorry for the people who died and their families, we’re going to see higher death rates for a couple of weeks based on the case numbers we have, but we shouldn’t be surprised, we know how this thing goes.

penelope2012 · 20-10-2020 05:49PM

Me too as I am in a school with no case confirmed yet but with students referred for test.

boardise wrote: »

I co-hope with you.

lawred2 · 20-10-2020 05:50PM

risteard7 wrote: »

HSE statement from RTE news yesterday

HSE statement said 97% of deaths were in someone with preexisting serious respiratory problems?

Arghus · 20-10-2020 05:50PM

As much as I respect Tony I don't buy that reasoning that they were taken by surprise by exponential growth.

Professor Nolan was saying at least a week before, perhaps even earlier, than that first letter that we were in a pattern of exponential growth.

Probes · 20-10-2020 05:51PM

Miike wrote: »

Do you think making up figures qualifies your statement? 18.3% of people who have died of COVID19 in Ireland had an underlying chronic respiratory condition (figures accurate up to the 17th of October 2020).

Don't let reality get in the way of your vacuous polemic.

The saddest thing for me out of this whole pandemic is the amount of people that seem to have decided that those with underlying conditions and older people are somehow not important enough to save. Since when did we start thinking this way?

harr · 20-10-2020 05:51PM

Some absolutely nutters on line , it’s a scary taught that the once small number of people who believed in every conspiracy theory are now being joined by what seems thousands .. I know well educated people who would have always been level headed now firmly believe in the “scamdemic” and that the daily deaths are completely made up .
I do worry what way the country is headed and what society my kids are growing up in.. you would wonder at this stage if the internet/ social media is actually a good thing.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 20-10-2020 05:52PM

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

What were the reported figures at the announcement of Level 3 restrictions in Dublin compared to today?

Surely if level 3 worked, numbers would have reduced significantly.

Dublin went into level 3 on 15 September.

There was 218 cases that day but that was a high day. The 7 day average was 100 cases and the 14 day average was 119 cases.

Dublin had 203 cases today and the 14 day average is 239 cases.

Miike · 20-10-2020 05:52PM

risteard7 wrote: »

You are Wrong, a statement was read out from the HSE yesterday. Go look it up and dont give me anymore nonsense or spin

I'm sure what you're trying to say is that 97% of people who have died had AN underlying condition. Not a chronic RESPIRATORY condition. Your comprehension really isn't up to scratch is it?

Do you realise how common chronic conditions are in Ireland? There was a report on it only last year - Have a quick google there, you might genuinely learn something.

Atlantic Dawn · 20-10-2020 05:54PM

At some session will one of the signers be flash and do the whole press conference without being replaced by s sub?

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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