Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

normanoffside · 20-10-2020 04:54PM

MOR316 wrote: »

I think some of us, myself included, have to hold our hands up and admit we got it wrong...

We said back in March, April and May that the Government and NPHET were doing a great job in handling this...I was wrong! They've made a complete bollocks out of it

In and out of restrictions for the next 12-15 months is not good for people! It's an absolute nightmare!

Don’t forget that back in June Tony promised is there wouldn’t be a second lockdown

https://www.buzz.ie/news/tony-holohan-says-full-lockdown-wont-be-necessary-if-second-covid-19-wave-hits-ireland-373680

stephenjmcd · 20-10-2020 04:55PM

Stheno wrote: »

well that's not gonna be fixed in six weeks!

If they bring the army back in it would be. They were the ones running the majority of it in the first place.

HSE though has been advertising for hundreds of contact tracers recently. I know of a few Environmental health officers seconded into contact tracing but with brexit looming large they're to be redeployed to the ports come January so staffing will need to be improved.

Stheno · 20-10-2020 04:55PM

Hqrry113 wrote: »

Do they verify that your out of work or are they just handing it out left right and center?

No there was nothing apart from the online form, I'd a letter from my work but they never asked for it.

As for rolling out vaccinations, would it not make sense to use some of the Covid testing centres to do so?

oceanman · 20-10-2020 04:55PM

problem for the government is that they cant win..if numbers increase like they have people get scared and call for a lock down, then when numbers go down the same people are looking for restrictions to be eased. my guess is we will be in and out of lockdown until a vaccine comes along.

What Username Guidelines · 20-10-2020 04:56PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Don’t forget that back in June Tony promised is there wouldn’t be a second lockdown

https://www.buzz.ie/news/tony-holohan-says-full-lockdown-wont-be-necessary-if-second-covid-19-wave-hits-ireland-373680

Not that any journalists will bring it up, but if they do, he'll say this one is different because, I dunno, hardware shops are open or some other such minor difference.

hmmm · 20-10-2020 04:57PM

quokula wrote: »

Was it said at the time that the lockdown was to allow time to beef up the health service? I thought it was to flatten the curve so the health service wasn't overwhelmed.

Agreed. People are looking for scapegoats or someone to blame, which is understandable.

The lockdown was to reduce the number of cases to a low-enough level that we could manage them through some closures and test and trace. It was the plan that we would reopen slowly, and we'd know the point that cases start to rise.

That was all the plan. The politicians were forced to probably reopen too quickly, but it's difficult for them when other countries are all off drinking in bars etc and your population are not.

Eod100 · 20-10-2020 04:58PM

Boggles wrote: »

NPHET basically saying in the letter one of the primary reasons for restrictions is because contact tracing has collapsed and it will need to be remedied before restrictions are lifted.

Of all the relative easy and cheap things to do and HSE completely scrimped on it.

Getting in the fúcking Army band to contact trace.

They didn't learn that off the Koreans.

Government mention cost of restrictions a lot, would they not be better off investing in that to prevent further restrictions?

Signore Fancy Pants · 20-10-2020 04:58PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Interesting points, so we have one of the worst health systems in Europe and I think we will all agree this is down to the HSE completely mismanagement as they have been well funded. Nphet whose advise we are following is made up of the people that completely ****ed up our health system. Should we not question their advice with their track record.

Considering daily cases have been 1000+ and rising, what mitigation measures would you introduce to reduce the spread of the virus?

Boggles · 20-10-2020 04:59PM

Stheno wrote: »

well that's not gonna be fixed in six weeks!

I imagine not.

That's why stay at home restrictions are an abject failure from governance.

A couple of leaders in Europe have actually held up there hands and said we fúcked up and we will do better.

Mehole managed a sly dig at the public last night, I don't remember him pointing any fingers at his cabinet though.

Like I keep saying the only thing we can hope for is they learn from their mistakes which help cause wave 2 and remedy them before Wave 3.

They won't though.

Necro · 20-10-2020 04:59PM

Amirani wrote: »

It's coming today.

I'm not going to ask how you know this but... how do you know this :eek:

stephenjmcd · 20-10-2020 05:00PM

Stheno wrote: »

As for rolling out vaccinations, would it not make sense to use some of the Covid testing centres to do so?

Absolutely, drive through centres where possibly

landofthetree · 20-10-2020 05:03PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Don’t forget that back in June Tony promised is there wouldn’t be a second lockdown

https://www.buzz.ie/news/tony-holohan-says-full-lockdown-wont-be-necessary-if-second-covid-19-wave-hits-ireland-373680

He should reign over this but he wont. Just like the cancer screening mess.

Looney1 · 20-10-2020 05:03PM

OwenM wrote: »

Any idea why https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/hospitals-icu--testing

shows an uptick in the 7-day positivity rate from 7.2 to 7.3%

Tks

I was wondering that as well. If the average has gone up the rate for today should have been higher

ixoy · 20-10-2020 05:04PM

What's actually involved in contact tracing that an individual can't do by just contacting everyone they were talking to (assuming they're well enough or with a person who is well enough)?
Many people will also have Location on their phones to remind them of where they visited too.

Amirani · 20-10-2020 05:04PM

Looney1 wrote: »

I was wondering that as well. If the average has gone up the rate for today should have been higher

7 days ago had a lower than normal figure, this has now dropped off the 7 day average.

Stheno · 20-10-2020 05:04PM

Boggles wrote: »

I imagine not.

That's why stay at home restrictions are an abject failure from governance.

A couple of leaders in Europe have actually held up there hands and said we fúcked up and we will do better.

Mehole managed a sly dig at the public last night, I don't remember him pointing any fingers at his cabinet though.

Like I keep saying the only thing we can hope for is they learn from their mistakes which help cause wave 2 and remedy them before Wave 3.

They won't though.

what was the sly did? The one about it spreading when people congregate?

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Absolutely, drive through centres where possibly

That won't happen so

Amirani · 20-10-2020 05:06PM

ixoy wrote: »

What's actually involved in contact tracing that an individual can't do by just contacting everyone they were talking to (assuming they're well enough or with a person who is well enough)?
Many people will also have Location on their phones to remind them of where they visited too.

The source of infection is anonymous for one thing.

Part of contact tracing also is investigating outbreaks/clusters and giving instructions for how patients and their contacts should isolate/restrict movements.

niallo27 · 20-10-2020 05:08PM

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Considering daily cases have been 1000+ and rising, what mitigation measures would you introduce to reduce the spread of the virus?

I would give level 3 a chance anyway, we have had 7 days of stable numbers after exponential growth. Our deaths and icu numbers have remained stable, hospitals are no where near getting overwhelmed despite all talk of 2 weeks away. We have to learn to live with this and accept we are in a pandemic.

the corpo · 20-10-2020 05:08PM

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1318584557302652928?s=20

Necro · 20-10-2020 05:08PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Absolutely, drive through centres where possibly

They're already set up sure as testing centres. Shouldn't be too difficult to keep em running for a vaccine.

manniot2 · 20-10-2020 05:08PM

I cannot believe they are openly admitting this isnt the last lockdown, and people are happy with that.

s1ippy · 20-10-2020 05:08PM

Anyone know where to watch the press conference with Tony and DCMO Helen?

Jenna James · 20-10-2020 05:08PM

Those figures are stark..

Eod100 · 20-10-2020 05:09PM

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1318584557302652928

manniot2 · 20-10-2020 05:10PM

hmmm wrote: »

Agreed. People are looking for scapegoats or someone to blame, which is understandable.

The lockdown was to reduce the number of cases to a low-enough level that we could manage them through some closures and test and trace. It was the plan that we would reopen slowly, and we'd know the point that cases start to rise.

That was all the plan. The politicians were forced to probably reopen too quickly, but it's difficult for them when other countries are all off drinking in bars etc and your population are not.

forced to reopen too quickly? are you serious, we had the slowest reopening on planet earth

SusanC10 · 20-10-2020 05:10PM

What time is the Press Conference? And which Channel ?

DOCARCH · 20-10-2020 05:11PM

13 deaths to some = ICU stablisation!

landofthetree · 20-10-2020 05:11PM

13 deaths reported (all recent)
- 1,269 cases

Eod100 · 20-10-2020 05:11PM

More cases in Meath than Dublin. With population difference that's huge for Meath.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1318584662579621890

AnniePowwa · 20-10-2020 05:12PM

landofthetree wrote: »

13 deaths reported (all recent)
- 1,269 cases

Aye I'd say they are all right

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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