Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

14-10-2020 11:29AM

Hopefully a win today to set him up for Spain.

Imagine a win in Madrid, he'd have the final stage at all 3 tours.

De Bhál · 14-10-2020 11:37AM

Good team around him.
Caleb Ewan and Ackermann amongst others to beat

https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/scheldeprijs/2020/startlist/roster

Dodge · 14-10-2020 11:44AM

Demare would be lucky to be top 5 today looking at the sprinters in Belgium!

No cobbles this year. Just 10 laps of the final circuit

connachta · 14-10-2020 12:19PM

De Bhál wrote: »

Good team around him.
Caleb Ewan and Ackermann amongst others to beat

https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/scheldeprijs/2020/startlist/roster

Beating Ackermann after Sagan would be giving Bora the back of the coin they deserve for not using Sam well

happytramp · 14-10-2020 06:24PM

So what's the sprint field like in the Vuelta? Sam, Ackermann, philipsen... anyone else of note?

breezy1985 · 14-10-2020 07:39PM

connachta wrote: »

Beating Ackermann after Sagan would be giving Bora the back of the coin they deserve for not using Sam well

Well he sort of beat him today

retalivity · 14-10-2020 07:47PM

breezy1985 wrote: »

Well he sort of beat him today

Looked like he was put out by the crash caused by ackermann, otherwise he would probably have been closer than 8th/9th

breezy1985 · 14-10-2020 07:49PM

retalivity wrote: »

Looked like he was put out by the crash caused by ackermann, otherwise he would probably have been closer than 8th/9th

Ya he wasnt really able to sprint at all in the end

dahat · 14-10-2020 08:08PM

retalivity wrote: »

Looked like he was put out by the crash caused by ackermann, otherwise he would probably have been closer than 8th/9th

Gap closed as he was about take the sprint. Once it closed it was game over so he did the right thing to back off.

Macy0161 · 14-10-2020 08:36PM

breezy1985 wrote: »

Ya he wasnt really able to sprint at all in the end

Not really the crash, was just boxed in just as he was about to launch.

Steve SilverMint · 15-10-2020 06:44AM

He’ll be disappointed with how it finished yesterday he had a really strong team working for him.

dastardly00 · 15-10-2020 07:06AM

Just noticed that Shane Archbold was a DNS so he would've been a big loss for Sam

Finnrocco · 15-10-2020 08:31AM

Quick Step made a mess of it, hit the front way to early, think it was over 1k to go and they only had 2 men in front of Sam, they should have known to back off a little.

Then he lost Morkov as he was squeezed, tried to move up on left but it seemed to close a bit.

Morkov galloped on right and looked around in vain.

Sam backed off then.

That's what I remember anyway your honour.

breezy1985 · 15-10-2020 08:51AM

Finnrocco wrote: »

Quick Step made a mess of it, hit the front way to early, think it was over 1k to go and they only had 2 men in front of Sam, they should have known to back off a little.

Then he lost Morkov as he was squeezed, tried to move up on left but it seemed to close a bit.

Morkov galloped on right and looked around in vain.

Sam backed off then.

That's what I remember anyway your honour.

If they took him to the line we would all be annoyed that Ewan once again sucked his wheel and jumped him so getting behind Ewan was ok in theory it just didn't work out

happytramp · 15-10-2020 10:06AM

breezy1985 wrote: »

If they took him to the line we would all be annoyed that Ewan once again sucked his wheel and jumped him so getting behind Ewan was ok in theory it just didn't work out

I'm really hoping DQS employ all their tricks to keep Ackermann et al off his wheel at the Vuelta... They were far too nice to ewan in the Tour in my opinion.

mr spuckler · 15-10-2020 10:09AM

I'm wondering about Bennett's condition for the Vuelta actually. He said after the Tour that the effects of a GT don't hit him until a week or 2 later and I think he went harder in the Tour than he's ever had to do previously in a GT. Hopefully I'm wrong and he's full of beans for it

breezy1985 · 15-10-2020 10:21AM

mr spuckler wrote: »

I'm wondering about Bennett's condition for the Vuelta actually. He said after the Tour that the effects of a GT don't hit him until a week or 2 later and I think he went harder in the Tour than he's ever had to do previously in a GT. Hopefully I'm wrong and he's full of beans for it

The tour is different to the rest though. Every team has all it stop riders involved and every day is full gas for win, breaks and all the jerseys but the Vuelta won't have that stress in every stage

dastardly00 · 15-10-2020 11:37AM

Finnrocco wrote: »

Quick Step made a mess of it, hit the front way to early, think it was over 1k to go and they only had 2 men in front of Sam, they should have known to back off a little.

Then he lost Morkov as he was squeezed, tried to move up on left but it seemed to close a bit.

Morkov galloped on right and looked around in vain.

Sam backed off then.

That's what I remember anyway your honour.

I don't think Morkov was even in the race

Dodge · 15-10-2020 11:45AM

dastardly00 wrote: »

I don't think Morkov was even in the race

Correct, and Archibald was a DNA too

Raoul Duke · 15-10-2020 01:13PM

Dodge wrote: »

Correct, and Archibald was a DNA too

Ahh, that might be why Sam didn't stick with his lead out's wheel (who I also presumed was Morkov). Maybe he didn't trust him like he would Morkov.

Steve SilverMint · 16-10-2020 12:49PM

DQS have named Arcbold and Morkov In the team for the Vuelta. Sams two top lead out men, looking forward to this one getting going.

CrowdedHouse · 16-10-2020 12:53PM

He's 30 today

breezy1985 · 16-10-2020 12:55PM

Steve SilverMint wrote: »

DQS have named Arcbold and Morkov In the team for the Vuelta. Sams two top lead out men, looking forward to this one getting going.

I love Morkov he's great for getting you to the line and he's such a slimy bugger for blocking the road after too

Mefistofelino · 16-10-2020 01:42PM

About 10 minutes into the DQS Tour documentary, there's a shot of the balding Morkov sitting down to dinner with the rest of the riders. He looks like the single uncle who's been seated at the kids table at a wedding.

Randy Archer · 18-10-2020 11:47AM

breezy1985 wrote: »

The tour is different to the rest though. Every team has all it stop riders involved and every day is full gas for win, breaks and all the jerseys but the Vuelta won't have that stress in every stage

Will there not be a lot of guys And their teams out there trying to prove a point or seek an improvement from whatever happened to them at the TDF ? Guys who are 50/50 about getting new contract renewals now or later next year ?

I don’t get to see a lot of the Vuelta as I do with TDF or even the Giro, so its a genuine question rather than any attempt to challenge your informed opinion .

dastardly00 · 18-10-2020 12:03PM

Randy Archer wrote: »

Will there not be a lot of guys And their teams out there trying to prove a point or seek an improvement from whatever happened to them at the TDF ? Guys who are 50/50 about getting new contract renewals now or later next year ?

I don’t get to see a lot of the Vuelta as I do with TDF or even the Giro, so its a genuine question rather than any attempt to challenge your informed opinion .

You are correct about riders wanting to prove a point after a disappointing Tour and trying to get a contract, but even still the Vuelta (and the Giro) is always more relaxed. The tempo in the peloton can be quite slow until the final third or quarter of the stage and the invited Pro-Continental teams generally make up the majority of the breakaway group.

breezy1985 · 18-10-2020 02:02PM

Randy Archer wrote: »

Will there not be a lot of guys And their teams out there trying to prove a point or seek an improvement from whatever happened to them at the TDF ? Guys who are 50/50 about getting new contract renewals now or later next year ?

I don’t get to see a lot of the Vuelta as I do with TDF or even the Giro, so its a genuine question rather than any attempt to challenge your informed opinion .

It's not about whether they want to or not but that the teams are not strong enough and if anyone tried those mad full stage team efforts like Bora did the whole team would be wrecked half way to the finish.

Look at the Giro now no team is able to ride it's leader up the mountain the way Jumbo did in the TdF

Finnrocco · 19-10-2020 08:32AM

dastardly00 wrote: »

I don't think Morkov was even in the race

I just assumed it was Morkov as the last lead out man.

lennymc · 19-10-2020 09:45AM

so, cav as a potential lead out man for bennett?

Mefistofelino · 19-10-2020 10:23AM

lennymc wrote: »

so, cav as a potential lead out man for bennett?

It seems an odd choice. Cav doesn't have his explosiveness anymore and doesn't have the engine to supplant the likes of Morkov. Neither has he evolved into another Oscar Freire.
Maybe they see his role as some type of "pilot fish" to guide Bennet through the 600-300m to go section where Sam sometimes seems to get a little lost / leaned upon? Problem there is that its been a long while since Cav has been reliably been able to get to the finish in that position.

Some type of sprint coach role perhaps?

Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

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