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Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

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    #1022
    Macy0161
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Gilbert was slowing down but Cav can't even keep up with groups that are cruising half the time. Also Gilbert was a Belgian legend and worth way more to DQS than Cav
    But still Patrick played hardball. At least with the first contract.

    btw, well worth the watch of De Panne - anyone who made that split wasn't cruising anyway!


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    #1023
    Chivito550
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    Is it just me or is there a surprisingly low number of opportunities for the sprinters in this Vuelta compared to the Tour?

    I usually only watch the Tour. This is my first time watching the Vuelta so maybe its always like this?

    Also what's the rationale for weighting mountain stage points the same as flat stages for green jersey? It's not really a sprinters jersey then is it?


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    #1024
    Macy0161
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Is it just me or is there a surprisingly low number of opportunities for the sprinters in this Vuelta compared to the Tour?
    Has been the last few years. I think the cancelled stages would've added more though?

    I was trying to explain to my daughter why Sam probably wouldn't get the "green" jersey here, because of the equal waiting. Doesn't make sense, but has still gone down to Madrid stage - Valverde took an intermediate and took the points jersey off Rodríguez.


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    #1025
    wirelessdude01
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Is it just me or is there a surprisingly low number of opportunities for the sprinters in this Vuelta compared to the Tour?

    I usually only watch the Tour. This is my first time watching the Vuelta so maybe its always like this?

    Also what's the rationale for weighting mountain stage points the same as flat stages for green jersey? It's not really a sprinters jersey then is it?

    If it had run as been originally been planned the first stages based in Holkand wouod have been sprinter stages.

    Vuelta traditionally has been a horribly hard race. Mounatins are harder than the tour.

    Their version of the points Jersey is generally won by a GC contender or the actual GC winner.


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    #1026
    breezy1985
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Is it just me or is there a surprisingly low number of opportunities for the sprinters in this Vuelta compared to the Tour?

    I usually only watch the Tour. This is my first time watching the Vuelta so maybe its always like this?

    Also what's the rationale for weighting mountain stage points the same as flat stages for green jersey? It's not really a sprinters jersey then is it?

    Before the covid changes it actually had more sprint stages than normal but ya the Vuelta is almost all up and down with little flat.

    The green jersey is the points jersey not sprinters jersey it just usually works out this way and the Vuelta is behind the rest is changing the points to help sprinters. This is mostly down to the fact that local hero Valverde is forever in green under current rules and they probably won't change until a top sprinter emerges in Spain


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    #1027
    CramCycle
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    Patrick pays over the top for no one, he also pays for no one that can't deliver to his budget. Cav isn't getting signed for them unless its a coach or as someone else said, a drive through guy on not much money. Having seen some of his work for Bahrain, he still is tactically very astute and knows how to get the best out of the situation.


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    #1028
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    CramCycle wrote: »
    Patrick pays over the top for no one, he also pays for no one that can't deliver to his budget. Cav isn't getting signed for them unless its a coach or as someone else said, a drive through guy on not much money. Having seen some of his work for Bahrain, he still is tactically very astute and knows how to get the best out of the situation.

    Yeah the role he played in Phil Bauhaus' win in the Saudi Tour earlier in the year is a perfect example of what he can offer these days.


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    #1029
    breezy1985
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Yeah the role he played in Phil Bauhaus' win in the Saudi Tour earlier in the year is a perfect example of what he can offer these days.

    I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not


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    #1030
    connachta
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    Sprint t'morrow and in the meantime, Dan Martin on the podium. No complain, here :)


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    #1031
    breezy1985
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    connachta wrote: »
    Sprint t'morrow and in the meantime, Dan Martin on the podium. No complain, here :)

    Ironically with his skillset and this form it'll be Dan who will be a favourite for Green overall. He's already minding it for Rog today


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    #1032
    connachta
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Ironically with his skillset and this form it'll be Dan who will be a favourite for Green overall. He's already minding it for Rog today




    Gosh 2 Irishmen in green, what a year it would be:D


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    #1033
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not

    Oh no quite genuine there, he was a big part tactically in that win putting his experience use.


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    #1034
    connachta
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    Here we are, Dan Martin has won!


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    #1035
    breezy1985
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Oh no quite genuine there, he was a big part tactically in that win putting his experience use.


    He should head back to Ineos. The was they transformed Rowe, Thomas and now Dennis Im sure they could turn him into a mountain dom with the marginal gains


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    #1036
    Macy0161
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    He should head back to Ineos. The was they transformed Rowe, Thomas and now Dennis Im sure they could turn him into a mountain dom with the marginal gains

    Dennis had a go at GC before going skineos. Part of the reason he went was to focus on tt and to be a domestique, as he didn't have the head of GC.


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    #1037
    breezy1985
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    Macy0161 wrote: »
    Dennis had a go at GC before going skineos. Part of the reason he went was to focus on tt and to be a domestique, as he didn't have the head of GC.


    Even Ineos a*** suckers Hatch and Smith were saying they never expected anything near that from Dennis


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    #1038
    Captain Havoc
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    Spoilers, use them!

    https://ormondelanguagetours.com

    Walking Tours of Kilkenny in English, French or German.



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    #1039
    TheBlaaMan
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    Votes needed here folks..............

    https://twitter.com/deceuninck_qst/status/1330208572383309826?s=20


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    #1040
    seaviewphotos
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    TheBlaaMan wrote: »
    Votes needed here folks..............

    https://twitter.com/deceuninck_qst/status/1330208572383309826?s=20

    Done, hopefully he can get another win in 2020.


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    #1041
    Ceepo
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    https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/ranking-the-top-10-male-sprinters-of-2020/

    Another win for Sam :)


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    #1042
    Randy Archer
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    Sam had a fine Vuelta despite suffering . He won a race outright and won the other and came 2nd , so he was up there for the pure sprint stages


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    #1043
    CramCycle
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    Ceepo wrote: »
    https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/ranking-the-top-10-male-sprinters-of-2020/

    Another win for Sam :)

    LOL, they have Sam as Bora rather than DQT in the article (corrected further down)


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    #1044
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    Ceepo wrote: »
    https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/ranking-the-top-10-male-sprinters-of-2020/

    Another win for Sam :)

    https://twitter.com/deceuninck_qst/status/1330934264414736386?s=19

    And another


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    #1045
    Ceepo
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    CramCycle wrote: »
    LOL, they have Sam as Bora rather than DQT in the article (corrected further down)

    Oh dear.. Face palm moment


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    #1046
    EC1000
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    Cavendish to Quickstep confirmed.


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    #1047
    griffin100
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    Sam will have some new company for next season and possibly a new lead out man -

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mark-cavendish-signs-for-deceuninck-quickstep-for-2021-season/

    I think this could be good for him having such an experienced sprinter in the team and one that he won’t have to compete with.


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    #1048
    breezy1985
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    griffin100 wrote: »
    Sam will have some new company for next season and possibly a new lead out man -

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mark-cavendish-signs-for-deceuninck-quickstep-for-2021-season/

    I think this could be good for him having such an experienced sprinter in the team and one that he won’t have to compete with.

    This guy can't even stay at the front of a bunch in the build up to a sprint so I hope he is kept well away from Sam in the big races


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    #1049
    velo.2010
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    It'll be interesting to see what role Cavendish is expected to play at DQ. He'll be surrounded by some of the fastest sprinters, leadout men and classic's riders in the world. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him refind some of his mojo at DQ. Saying that, I wouldn't be too worried about Bennett's place within the team coming under any pressure... for now.


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    #1050
    Randy Archer
    Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    Well, Cavendish always said that the Specialised bikes were his favourite so ...

    I’d like to see him score a few wins ,however minor the race might be ...just to see him go out on a high


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    #1051
    breezy1985
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    velo.2010 wrote: »
    It'll be interesting to see what role Cavendish is expected to play at DQ. He'll be surrounded by some of the fastest sprinters, leadout men and classic's riders in the world. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him refind some of his mojo at DQ. Saying that, I wouldn't be too worried about Bennett's place within the team coming under any pressure... for now.

    Who's worried about Sam. He's leagues ahead of Cav now


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