Coronavirus Pandemic Information- Local and Worldwide

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

It simply can't be done.

If you closed the border and airports for good along with a severe lockdown with a functioning test and trace system. Possible then?

In saying that Probably needed to be done in march like NZ, to late now with cases widespread.

greenfield21 wrote: »

If you closed the border and airports for good along with a severe lockdown with a functioning test and trace system. Possible then?

In saying that Probably needed to be done in march like NZ likley to late now

And how the actual f@@k would the country function with the airports and ports closed .Not to mention the BA couldn't close the border with machine guns,helicopter patrols and road closures.

Deleted User wrote: »

Must I.

It's a virus that passes from person to person by various means which we don't fully understand yet. If they suggest a lockdown to curb what looks to be a rampant virus then do a proper job on it, not a half job.

Either way it won't matter though, as our population is too selfish/stupid to comply with the lesser measures to contain the virus. I guess late Winter/Spring 2021 will be our next crisis point after a 6 week which may turn into how many weeks lockdown?

I find some of the views on here odd, on a forum full of farmers used to dealing with virus and disease outbreaks in stock. Would ye let an incurable virus run rampant in the flock or herd? Not a chance.

Well a few incurable virus are probably in my sheep as we speak(type).But as long as its not causing me any economic problems whats the issue?

Deleted User wrote: »

If you don't trust them at home unsupervised you've answered your own question. I agree the timeline for a proposed lockdown is, flexible, to put it kindly.

Well I have only myself to compare with and to be honest wouldn't trust a teenage me one inch.
Kids in general are 100% more mature and better behaved than when I was in school at the same age but even still.

paddysdream wrote: »

Thats a very pessimistic outlook.Cannot see people buying into all this for very much longer.
Every day we hear "worst figures yet" " the next two weeks are crucial" etc and nothing happens.
Lockdown in March was to allow the HSE to prepare and to string out bad cases as long as possible.

Everyone will tick the boxes and say all the right things but will it become something like a Bord Bia audit ie whats the point of a lot of this stupid stuff but lets shut up,pretend to do it,and the inspector will be gone soon

Am i pessimistic about it, I didn’t think I was. But maybe...

Medium term, like Buford said, it’ll be distancing, reducing contacts, sanitizer, masks...

Everyone is hoping for a vaccine. I am not sure how quick we’ll see one...
I feel it’s possible the virus peters out... ok for most people, but vulnerable people will still feel very vulnerable in this scenario...

Not sure about your box ticking analagy... But, am happy to be wrong too Paddy...

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

I collected my daughter from secondary school early for an appointment on Thursday.
There was 10 mins left in lunch time. I do a lot of work in the local gaa club. I travel the country with work. I have to be extremely careful in the job I am in as I meet a lot of people. I have been through under age training, involved in adult teams and been in many towns and villages over the country since we got out of lockdown one. All the above pale into insignificance to what I was looking at while waiting in that car park.
As i sat in the car and my heart sank looking around at 100s of kids in massive groups having the craic like kids do. Not a care in the world, as if it was Oct 2019. These kids are mostly not going to show any symptoms. They will catch and spread the virus. Ya cant really blame them its just the way it is, has been and will always be. Secondary schools are a breeding ground for the virus.

100% on this, and that is why they need to close the schools when they announce level 5 tomorrow evening

paddysdream wrote: »

And how the actual f@@k would the country function with the airports and ports closed .Not to mention the BA couldn't close the border with machine guns,helicopter patrols and road closures.

Only a question, Obviously not feasible. goods would be free to pass through. At least it would make it worthwhile locking down.

whelan2 wrote: »

If schools are closed kids are going to hang around , no madks etc. At least at school they are in pods and so far it's working ok

A lot of secondary school pupils do not wear masks once outside the school.
They walk in clusters with no regard for keeping the distance they are supposed to.
The teachers, (at least in one school), insist that the pupils wear masks in the classroom but the teachers sit at the front of the classroom without masks.
Such teachers are giving bad examples. It is very much a case of don't do as I do, do as I say.

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

I collected my daughter from secondary school early for an appointment on Thursday.
There was 10 mins left in lunch time. I do a lot of work in the local gaa club. I travel the country with work. I have to be extremely careful in the job I am in as I meet a lot of people. I have been through under age training, involved in adult teams and been in many towns and villages over the country since we got out of lockdown one. All the above pale into insignificance to what I was looking at while waiting in that car park.
As i sat in the car and my heart sank looking around at 100s of kids in massive groups having the craic like kids do. Not a care in the world, as if it was Oct 2019. These kids are mostly not going to show any symptoms. They will catch and spread the virus. Ya cant really blame them its just the way it is, has been and will always be. Secondary schools are a breeding ground for the virus.

I'd be the opposite and say that's exactly what we need and that's exactly what's worth protecting. We need children and teenagers to have their childhood and teenage years.
If we don't allow it they'll grow to be even more neurotic than ourselves and with higher mental health problems and lower self esteem.

Think about it, with the percentage of deaths we've had and if this was 100 years ago and with no social media, would people know any different from their normal life?

I'm not denying there's a virus as I'm 90% sure looking back I had it in March after a family wedding where some at it came from Milan.
I had pneumonia as a child and I felt a tightning on my lungs for about a week.
My elderly parents one had a cough and one felt 'off' for two days. Another family member had no effects sitting at that table with the Milan tourist.

I said it before that it looks like other Coronavirus's in that we'll get it again and again and again and it does look like it's bearing that way.
In mice with coronaviruses they had maximum immunity by being continually or with short times of exposure and more symptoms shown when say a six month period break between exposures.

My own personal to me preference would be to just open the country up and have those who want to cocoon, go and cocoon. But then I'd be a bit of a liberal about everybody should be in charge of themselves and make their own choices and then I'm not in charge of our health system..

But we'll still probably be in Level 5 tomorrow and have to obey the rules.

paddysdream wrote: »

Have to agree with Say my name

This covid panic is a godsend for every nuerotic fruitcake who kept his issues to himself but now sees strenght in numbers.
Maybe thats a bit strong but its my honest opinion.
The amount of people with hang ups about things constantly surprises me.
Death or even then idea of its inevitability seems to be a biggie at the moment.
From reading online it seems every person alive has an " underlying condition" of some sort.

Jesus that's very harsh and very much comes across as uncaring of what others are going through to be honest, to dismiss people with "underlying conditions", jesus I hope all your family are keeping well :rolleyes:

GoneHome wrote: »

Jesus that's very harsh and very much comes across as uncaring of what others are going through to be honest, to dismiss people with "underlying conditions", jesus I hope all your family are keeping well :rolleyes:

And maybe he has the right attitude

GoneHome wrote: »

Jesus that's very harsh and very much comes across as uncaring of what others are going through to be honest, to dismiss people with "underlying conditions", jesus I hope all your family are keeping well :rolleyes:

Well have a parent with real medical issues but they are rather fed up of all this at this stage.To be fair they never paid any attention to the coccooning advice etc but then again they would have seen a bit more of life and experienced more than a lot of people.
My family would have a rather jaundiced view of life and death compared to many I must admit and perhaps that can come across as cold.Its a "shut up with yer whinging, get on with it and make the best of what you have " attitude.Not for everyone but if we were all the same then life be one bland existance

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

It’s one way of dealing with it...

I don’t know if it’s wise to base everything on a ‘I think we had corona and we’re nearly in the better of it’ assumption either Say

Say for doctor general of the country.

(I tell you though it was a great weight off our shoulders being 90% sure we had. Everyone else afraid of dying and we just continuing on while obeying all rules).