Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - Read OP for Mod Warnings

uli84 · 14-10-2020 08:53PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Curfews in nine French cities from 9pm to 6am for four weeks. Harsh!

Wouldn’t mind that here, sure there’s nowhere to go anyways

charlie14 · 14-10-2020 08:54PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Is this the next page in the fear and hysteria playbook? Cant make people be scared of a virus that doesn't hurt them so we have to invent things like "Long Covid" and now the "mutant child killer covid mark 2" just to keep the narrative going?

Heres a thought, maybe it does mutate, maybe it follows the Andromeda Strain and mutates into a harmless airbourne virus, floats away into space and everything goes back to normal.

Its just as likely, but I bet that won't ever be a headline on RTE news any time soon.

So it is your belief that that nobody gets hurt due to this virus let alone die due to it ?
Perhaps you do and the hint is in the reference to Andromeda and you are newly arrived from a faraway galaxy.

14-10-2020 08:57PM

I’ll have to assume that mental health is considered essential. With that in mind, I’ll be visiting family as normal.

I’m sure we all know someone that died with a noose around their neck. I won’t let that happen to my loved ones.

amadangomor · 14-10-2020 09:00PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Supporters were allowed at GAA matches here too. 400 or so in large grounds. Did they space out? Did they fúck. That's why we can't have nice things.

Exactly the Finns will go straight home and have a beer or two there. We would congregate for ages talking ****e and would be hatching plans for house parties. A few would go on a multiple day bender.

Usually would prefer the way we do things but not the time for it

amadangomor · 14-10-2020 09:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I’ll have to assume that mental health is considered essential. With that in mind, I’ll be visiting family as normal.

I’m sure we all know someone that died with a noose around their neck. I won’t let that happen to my loved ones.

Fair enough. My mental health would suffer more if I brought it back to my elderly granny or my father that has heart problems.

Rrrrrr2 · 14-10-2020 09:03PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

How do restrictions help in any way get us back to Normal?

As evidenced from any results so far the opposite- we have these severe restrictions and also no normality outcomes.

amadangomor · 14-10-2020 09:04PM

uli84 wrote: »

Wouldn’t mind that here, sure there’s nowhere to go anyways

Make it 7am and I would get a lie in!

_Kaiser_ · 14-10-2020 09:04PM

RTE actually providing more numbers for a change on the 9pm news

But perspective is still missing. Still low overall and deaths still in single digits.

Absolute nonsense overreaction, check! :rolleyes:

Rrrrrr2 · 14-10-2020 09:05PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Fair enough. My mental health would suffer more if I brought it back to my elderly granny or my father that has heart problems.

Well that’s what we’ve been saying for ages now- you do whet you have to do based on personal circumstances and choices. That’s all I want to allow people the freedom to make their own choices- I can’t own other people’s health issues

LessOutragePlz · 14-10-2020 09:05PM

There's no way they can enforce that ban on household visitors unless they bring in new legislation which is highly doubtful after the uproar when they considered giving gardai the power to enter people's homes without a warrant.

The government are once again relying on the public to obey whatever restrictions they impose. We know some will obey them but not all will. I suppose they're hoping that the majority will obey and that, that will be enough to stop the spread of the virus but I'm very doubtful that it will work tbh.

It's already after spreading all over the place in pretty much every county they're. So trying to close the gate after the horse has bolted!

Another part of me thinks they're trying to do it now because they know that they haven't a snowball's chance in hell of trying to ban household visits over the Christmas and New year period.

manniot2 · 14-10-2020 09:07PM

Let Covid rip? Nope its too dangerous (death rate a fraction of 1%). Let cancer rip, let heart disease rip, let misery rip, let isolation rip, let poverty rip....ok no problem.

normanoffside · 14-10-2020 09:07PM

Another pic of the Finland crowd. As you can see they are all together in pockets with some parts empty.

But yeah, they're great and we're stupid

amadangomor · 14-10-2020 09:08PM

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

Well that’s what we’ve been saying for ages now- you do whet you have to do based on personal circumstances and choices. That’s all I want to allow people the freedom to make their own choices- I can’t own other people’s health issues

Just don't risk one of your family members health needlessly and keep wearing a mask in shops etc. to protect the rest of us please.

LuasSimon · 14-10-2020 09:09PM

Louth is very much a border county .... why isn’t it included in level 4 ??

Penfailed · 14-10-2020 09:11PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

How do restrictions help in any way get us back to Normal?

What do you suggest? Abandon all restrictions, open everything and hope for the best? That will very quickly turn out to be abnormal.

PTH2009 · 14-10-2020 09:12PM

May as well get the army on the streets

No way will this no visiting other households thing work

Farcical

Rrrrrr2 · 14-10-2020 09:14PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Just don't risk one of your family members health needlessly and keep wearing a mask in shops etc. to protect the rest of us please.

I don’t believe masks serve any purpose but wear one to avoid hassle and if it provides empty comfort to others. That’s about the height of their use.
I socially distance as needs be too

charlie14 · 14-10-2020 09:14PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Another pic of the Finland crowd. As you can see they are all together in pockets with some parts empty.

But yeah, they're great and we're stupid

I really do not see what your point is.
We know that similar in relation to GAA club games resulted in increased numbers.

risteard7 · 14-10-2020 09:15PM

No point wearing masks anymore, cases have only gone up since we were made wear them

_Kaiser_ · 14-10-2020 09:19PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

There's no way they can enforce that ban on household visitors unless they bring in new legislation which is highly doubtful after the uproar when they considered giving gardai the power to enter people's homes without a warrant.

The government are once again relying on the public to obey whatever restrictions they impose. We know some will obey them but not all will. I suppose they're hoping that the majority will obey and that, that will be enough to stop the spread of the virus but I'm very doubtful that it will work tbh.

It's already after spreading all over the place in pretty much every county they're. So trying to close the gate after the horse has bolted!

Another part of me thinks they're trying to do it now because they know that they haven't a snowball's chance in hell of trying to ban household visits over the Christmas and New year period.

The majority of people I talk to are sick of it at this stage and an increasing number think that the Government haven't a clue how to manage it.

Micheal on the news here providing "clarity" but it's still as clear as mud. It's still all advisory from what I can see. We're also now calling it "enhanced level 3" but again, and backing up the views above, it's 3 and a bit and being made up randomly despite the "plan"

It's absolutely farcical at this point

C__MC · 14-10-2020 09:19PM

Jesus RTE doom and gloom

Harry Palmr · 14-10-2020 09:21PM

The entire GAA programme has to be ended for the year.

uli84 · 14-10-2020 09:22PM

C__MC wrote: »

Jesus RTE doom and gloom

It hurts even though im not even watching ðŸ˜†

charlie14 · 14-10-2020 09:22PM

Penfailed wrote: »

What do you suggest? Abandon all restrictions, open everything and hope for the best? That will very quickly turn out to be abnormal.

Why would it. Johan Giesecke said after a month or two everybody will have herd immunity..... oh yeah. On second thought maybe not.

14-10-2020 09:22PM

Just an observation..

Tony Holohan's wife was seriously ill with cancer and yet I havent seen him wear a mask.
curious as to why not, when we are told the sick and ill are quite at risk.

Rrrrrr2 · 14-10-2020 09:23PM

risteard7 wrote: »

No point wearing masks anymore, cases have only gone up since we were made wear them

The science behind mask wearing is extremely weak at best. They’re just a “ah sure maybe what’s the harm” effort. But they’ve become like rosary beads to some - woe betide anyone with the temerity to question them!
I couldn’t bothered as it’s a battle not worth having but the virus is speaking for itself regardless

charlie14 · 14-10-2020 09:24PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The entire GAA programme has to be ended for the year.

The last two rounds of the league will have a major say in that I`d say

Rrrrrr2 · 14-10-2020 09:25PM

C__MC wrote: »

Jesus RTE doom and gloom

It’s not worth watching. What has changed since the last news you watched - absolutely nothing- except we are ever deeper in debt, robbing resources we badly needed to invest in future generations

CruelSummer · 14-10-2020 09:25PM

Captain_Crash wrote: »

So household visits now banned.... will their be much compliance? If it’s to stop house parties then we already know that’s a subsection which wasn’t following many guidelines to begin with, so I doubt this will stop them!

I’m pro lifting of restrictions and have been for many months but I’m also acutely aware of what’s in front of us.
The first lockdown was necessary initially to manage the crisis and understand what we were dealing with. However it went on far too long & now we have compliance fatigue in a big way. Schools should have also reopened before the summer in a blended format to help children catch up also.
Hospital and ICU admissions are increasing, these are the two parameters I’ve always followed when looking at how serious this crisis is. Anecdotally, while testing is still working somewhat effectively, tracing seems to be completely overwhelmed. If this happens, community transmission is widespread and we’ve uncontrolled spread. This might have been a runner in the summer when hospitals are quieter but don’t think it’s a good idea coming into flu season in a health system that struggles under normal winter conditions.
I think the government are right to limit household visits - I also think fines could be a way forward. We need to comply with level 3 to try and stem this. Level 4 closes shops and many more businesses in the run up to Christmas & to be honest - they’re very strict where I live at the moment & very small numbers allowed in. They should be given the chance to remain open. I also like having takeaway & outdoor dining options. I also love the pool & really hope they can remain open through this.
I think perhaps schools should be put on standby for blended learning after mid term. Get it set up now before the break - half the class in the building on each day, on alternate days would help keep children educated & schools open. While enabling further distancing. When cases go back down, revert back to full time again - less of a shock and easier to do.

Zebra3 · 14-10-2020 09:25PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

The majority of people I talk to are sick of it at this stage and an increasing number think that the Government haven't a clue how to manage it.

Micheal on the news here providing "clarity" but it's still as clear as mud. It's still all advisory from what I can see. We're also now calling it "enhanced level 3" but again, and backing up the views above, it's 3 and a bit and being made up randomly despite the "plan"

It's absolutely farcical at this point

Yeh, so much for five levels.

Government is totally out of their depth.

Then again, it must be difficult to work with Varadkar having so much contempt for MM.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - Read OP for Mod Warnings