Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

John O.Groats · 05-10-2020 12:56PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

100s of vaccines have been created and some are in widespread use. We’re realistically going to have some sort of distribution happening by the end of the year.

And what about the anti vaxxer nutjobs that will refuse to take a vaccine should one be developed? What then?

j8wk2feszrnpao · 05-10-2020 12:56PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I wouldn't bother. Same poster referred to the GFA as a little bit of political paper and wanted the gov to break international law last night.

Better off banging your head against a wall

It really was insane stuff. We just shut down the entire country and wall off the border with soldiers. No rational whatsoever. Madman stuff.

MerlinSouthDub · 05-10-2020 12:57PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Level 4 in Dublin and level 3 nationwide is waaaay more realistic

Level 4 in Donegal surely? Dublin numbers are growing at a slower rate than rest of country.

Boggles · 05-10-2020 12:57PM

Dr Mary Favier, a former Irish College of General Practitioners president who sits on NPHET, said the “inevitable truth” was a lockdown was needed to protect the country’s vulnerable healthcare system.

“The reality is that if we keep going the way we are, if you or I had a bad road traffic accident in November, or needed emergency cardiac surgery, there might not be an intensive care bed for you or I,” she told RTÉ Morning Ireland.

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Sardonicat · 05-10-2020 12:58PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

And what about the anti vaxxer nutjobs that will refuse to take a vaccine should one be developed? What then?

That will be their problem

sterz · 05-10-2020 12:58PM

Can't wrap my head around the sudden desire for them to move to level 5. How can they last week justify all bar two counties remaining at level 2 but then a week later realise they made a mistake and they all need to go to level 5 pronto?

I just don't get how they can justify this change.

Gradius · 05-10-2020 12:58PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

100s of vaccines have been created and some are in widespread use. We’re realistically going to have some sort of distribution happening by the end of the year.

Holy Moses.

Sure if that's easy why haven't we bothered with all diseases then?

Thomas.. · 05-10-2020 12:58PM

AdamD wrote: »

The fawning over Tony Holohan is more than a little weird.

You cannot have a situation where 1 man is calling the shots like this if this is indeed what happened yesterday

It's akin to a dictatorship and the government needs to find it's voice today

Rrrrrr2 · 05-10-2020 12:59PM

Thomas.. wrote: »

Having MM at the helm doesn't inspire much confidence

There'll be some sort of a fudge come out today , that's all he's good for

No way he’ll stand up to Nphet and their crazed obsession with already failed lockdowns. This is easily the most serious crisis I’ve experienced in this country and I’ve lived through a few recessions. We could actually work our way out of those, this is an altogether different circumstances.
There is absolutely no way a respiratory virus can be controlled in this way as we’ve already demonstrated several times over

Plumbthedepths · 05-10-2020 01:00PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

And what about the anti vaxxer nutjobs that will refuse to take a vaccine should one be developed? What then?

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/and-that-s-irish-people-expert-surprised-one-third-would-not-take-covid-vaccine-1.4370278

Lot of nutjobs.

John O.Groats · 05-10-2020 01:00PM

batman75 wrote: »

I’m expecting a lockdown to be announced today. I would rather not be in lockdown but ultimately people’s health has to take centre stage above all else.
Going forward there needs to be consistency from the Govt on what gets shuts down.
Pubs being opened is a no no as far as I’m concerned until a proven vaccine is found. This buy food is a load of crap. Once alcohol is consumed people can drop their guard. Also most Irish pubs are small so socially distancing is not possible.
Pleased to see Dr Holohan back. He did a sterling job until tragic personal circumstances took him understandably out of circulation. Keep safe everyone

The requirement to order food was dropped when the wet pubs reopened on 21st September.

Gradius · 05-10-2020 01:01PM

munstermagic11 wrote: »

It really was insane stuff. We just shut down the entire country and wall off the border with soldiers. No rational whatsoever. Madman stuff.

Madman stuff = having no plan, and refusing to even contemplate a plan that has a hope of success.

Enjoy the winter of do-nothing plans, see how well it works out.

RoryMac · 05-10-2020 01:01PM

AdamD wrote: »

The fawning over Tony Holohan is more than a little weird.

It's a bit like the loons that write letters & propose to people on death row

ACitizenErased · 05-10-2020 01:01PM

Gradius wrote: »

Holy Moses.

Sure if that's easy why haven't we bothered with all diseases then?

Yeah you need to read more.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html

Plumbthedepths · 05-10-2020 01:02PM

Gradius wrote: »

Madman stuff = having no plan, and refusing to even contemplate a plan that has a hope of success.

Enjoy the winter of do-nothing plans, see how well it works out.

Yours is not a plan. Infantile rubbish tbh.

bennyl10 · 05-10-2020 01:02PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Level 4 in Dublin and level 3 nationwide is waaaay more realistic

Is it?
Well need level 4 nationwide before the end of the week on current trends
Just bite the bullet and go with it nationally

rob316 · 05-10-2020 01:03PM

batman75 wrote: »

I’m expecting a lockdown to be announced today. I would rather not be in lockdown but ultimately people’s health has to take centre stage above all else.
Going forward there needs to be consistency from the Govt on what gets shuts down.
Pubs being opened is a no no as far as I’m concerned until a proven vaccine is found. This buy food is a load of crap. Once alcohol is consumed people can drop their guard. Also most Irish pubs are small so socially distancing is not possible.
Pleased to see Dr Holohan back. He did a sterling job until tragic personal circumstances took him understandably out of circulation. Keep safe everyone

Its pretty easy job been the guy that says lockdown everything.

How was his sterling handling of the cervical cancer scandal?

Sawduck · 05-10-2020 01:03PM

Has the panic buying started yet, might avoid all the big supermarkets for the next few days, I will never understand people panic buying

Rebelbrowser · 05-10-2020 01:03PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Architecture students are also not entirely online, just one example. I'm sure theres plenty

batman75 wrote: »

I’m expecting a lockdown to be announced today. I would rather not be in lockdown but ultimately people’s health has to take centre stage above all else.
Going forward there needs to be consistency from the Govt on what gets shuts down.
Pubs being opened is a no no as far as I’m concerned until a proven vaccine is found. This buy food is a load of crap. Once alcohol is consumed people can drop their guard. Also most Irish pubs are small so socially distancing is not possible.
Pleased to see Dr Holohan back. He did a sterling job until tragic personal circumstances took him understandably out of circulation. Keep safe everyone

Viz Tony Holohan, is it wise to let a man on his first day back in the job after a very traumatic few months personally (I assume) make the most far reaching decision of his career with very serious ramifications for 5 million people? Would you not normally, in these circumstances, tell someone to ease themselves back into a job?

Atlantic Dawn · 05-10-2020 01:03PM

Why are doctors being interviewed outside hospital while wearing their scrubs?

Eod100 · 05-10-2020 01:04PM

More details on NPHET recommendations here: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/moving-to-level-5-is-only-way-to-control-covid-19-and-keep-schools-open-nphet-1.4372401?mode=amp

Gruffalux · 05-10-2020 01:05PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think personally in my own case, I got trained to assess risk in my late teens when I did flight training; every time I would take off in the single engines aircraft I would have to assume the engine was going to fail at any moment, so one would constantly look out below for potential landing spots. It trained me to be hyper-vigilant. Also trained to plan as far as possible for all possible eventualities pre-flight. In my own head it is normal to have this mind-set, and I have to be reminded it is not normally part of everyday thinking.

I knew it!! You are Penelope Pitstop! I had my suspicions.

bb1234567 · 05-10-2020 01:05PM

Brother said cluster in his year in NUIG medicine is at least 20 now. There was never a hope of keeping it controlled with most of them in densely populated student accomodation blocks with communal areas

Sardonicat · 05-10-2020 01:05PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Why are doctors being interviewed outside hospital while wearing their scrubs?

You know they have access to more than one set, right?

Thomas.. · 05-10-2020 01:06PM

Holohan has probably shot himself in the foot by overreaching this time

It could be a green light now for the government and the public to question their decisions

I'm expecting MM and Vardkar to do what politicians do and go the way the wind is blowing which is against heavy restrictions

bennyl10 · 05-10-2020 01:06PM

sterz wrote: »

Can't wrap my head around the sudden desire for them to move to level 5. How can they last week justify all bar two counties remaining at level 2 but then a week later realise they made a mistake and they all need to go to level 5 pronto?

I just don't get how they can justify this change.

because cases of shot up since then

it isnt rocket science. there is cases, and community, in every county and numbers in hosp are rising

setanta1984 · 05-10-2020 01:06PM

It's worrying that some are seeing Level 4 as a compromise - Level 4 shuts down the entire country the same as 5, and is economically/socially just as devastating.

I fear 4 will be seen as more palatable to get people to agree to and to soften some public rage, before everyone realises what Level 4 actually means and that we are just as destroyed.

Level 4 is the point on the plan that daily lives start being destroyed for anyone outside the hospitality sector (those lucky people get their lives destroyed at level 3)

ACitizenErased · 05-10-2020 01:07PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

because cases of shot up since then

it isnt rocket science. there is cases, and community, in every county and numbers in hosp are rising

Level 5 isn’t happening.

TonyMaloney · 05-10-2020 01:07PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Level 4 in Dublin and level 3 nationwide is waaaay more realistic

It's less than what Scotland's doing, and it's not working well over there

I think if we undermine our experts here we'll be in big trouble soon enough

MerlinSouthDub · 05-10-2020 01:08PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

It's less than what Scotland's doing, and it's not working well over there

I think if we undermine our experts here we'll be in big trouble soon enough

Why do you think the experts in Ireland know more than the experts in every other European country?

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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