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Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    Popular opinion appears to be just to do as little as possible. Don't want lockdowns, don't want restrictions, don't want to be inconvenienced.

    It's amazing how the popular opinion requires the laziest effort. What a coincidence.

    Meanwhile we're stuck in the purgatory of lockdown/open up cycle that is quickly destroying the economy and my head.

    Anybody have any ideas on an exit strategy? Nope. Apparently this is all fine and any approach to an idea is shot down immediately.

    The house is being gambled on a vaccine that in theory may never exist. Note how that plan requires zero effort too. Strangely convenient.

    Around and around we go, twirling into oblivion

    i-feel-like-im-taking-crazy-pills.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,173 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    If the numbers are falling again today level 5 cannot be justified
    But I’m sure they will find a batch of unreported positive tests somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,972 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Gradius wrote: »
    Popular opinion appears to be just to do as little as possible. Don't want lockdowns, don't want restrictions, don't want to be inconvenienced.

    It's amazing how the popular opinion requires the laziest effort. What a coincidence.

    Meanwhile we're stuck in the purgatory of lockdown/open up cycle that is quickly destroying the economy and my head.

    Anybody have any ideas on an exit strategy? Nope. Apparently this is all fine and any approach to an idea is shot down immediately.

    The house is being gambled on a vaccine that in theory may never exist. Note how that plan requires zero effort too. Strangely convenient.

    Around and around we go, twirling into oblivion

    i-feel-like-im-taking-crazy-pills.jpg

    If you currently believe a vaccine may never exist you need to read more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    froog wrote: »
    Big T arriving at government buildings.

    00156bfe-521.jpg

    What a guy. I wish I could kiss his ring just as a small gesture of my gratitude. There would have been death on a scale not witnessed since the 1300s if it wasn’t for Dr Tony.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    froog wrote: »
    Big T arriving at government buildings.

    00156bfe-521.jpg

    Sources indicate he has MM cowering behind the chair and still hasn't discovered Leo hiding behind the curtain yet. Éamon Ryan is off having a lunchtime siesta in the Dáil chamber.

    "What the **** happened. I left you alone for five minutes you bumbling fool"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    You realise testing has boundaries yes? :confused:

    1 in 10 infected globally would mean a prevalence around 20 times higher than global testing shows. I'd well believe it's high but with that in mind, we would have had 760,000 infected in Ireland as opposed to 38,000.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,336 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Gael23 wrote: »
    If the numbers are falling again today level 5 cannot be justified

    So if they rise does that mean you think it is justified? :confused:

    Decisions are not based on daily single figures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭Hooked


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    What a guy. I wish I could kiss his ring just as a small gesture of my gratitude. There would have been death on a scale not witnessed since the 1300s if it wasn’t for Dr Tony.

    Are we talking about the 'Rona or the Cervical Check Scandal...?

    Tony can pîss off...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    When should we know the positive swabs. Can at least see from that is it looking bad, as they had rose on Saturday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    Gradius wrote: »
    Popular opinion appears to be just to do as little as possible. Don't want lockdowns, don't want restrictions, don't want to be inconvenienced.

    It's amazing how the popular opinion requires the laziest effort. What a coincidence.

    Leo was correct in March when he justified the initial sluggishness to bring restrictions down to "avoiding the public becoming fatigued too early".

    I thought better of the Irish people at the time but it's now happened in a big way.
    All the nice words and sentiment towards our healthcare staff gone because it's just a few weeks too many weeks without holidays, pubs and parties.

    It's embarrassing for the state of the Irish people. Never again will we be thought of a resilient, selfless nation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    1 in 10 infected globally would mean a prevalence around 20 times higher than global testing shows. I'd well believe it's high but with that in mind, we would have had 760,000 infected in Ireland as opposed to 38,000.

    The roughly 1 in 19 infected being missed applies much more to developing countries like India rather than Ireland. Certainly in Ireland 19/20 infections were not going unreported


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    If you currently believe a vaccine may never exist you need to read more

    Yes, I'll read more about their efforts to find a cure to a disease and that will make it 100% a fact.

    Sure why not throw in a cure for cancer too?

    Just because you really want something doesn't make it an inevitability. Planning your life on something that may or may not happen is insanity.

    Yes, hope for the thing to materialise, but don't plan on it.

    What if it's 2022 by the time something is created? Happy to live in this joke until then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Sources indicate he has MM cowering behind the chair and still hasn't discovered Leo hiding behind the curtain yet. Éamon Ryan is off having a lunchtime siesta in the Dáil chamber.

    "What the **** happened. I left you alone for five minutes you bumbling fool"

    i can actually picture him taking off his belt and whipping them in a corner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭robfowler78


    Hooked wrote: »
    Are we talking about the 'Rona or the Cervical Check Scandal...?

    Tony can pîss off...

    At least with Tony back there is a good job he will feck this up so much and try to cover his ass that people will finally wake up. To quote Monty pyton "he's not the messiah he's a very naughty boy"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,031 ✭✭✭Hooked


    Gradius wrote: »
    Yes, I'll read more about their efforts to find a cure to a disease and that will make it 100% a fact.

    Sure why not throw in a cure for cancer too?

    Just because you really want something doesn't make it an inevitability. Planning your life on something that may or may not happen is insanity.

    Yes, hope for the thing to materialise, but don't plan on it.

    What if it's 2022 by the time something is created? Happy to live in this joke until then?


    Just to add... this is NOT living...

    Hook the virus to my veins now so I can take my chances with it.
    Because the current 'cure' is FAR worse than the damn thing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    titan18 wrote: »
    When should we know the positive swabs. Can at least see from that is it looking bad, as they had rose on Saturday.

    Usually between 3:30 - 4:30


  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The fawning over Tony Holohan is more than a little weird.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭TexasTornado


    Unfortunately people can not be trusted. You only have to look at the disgraceful scenes yesterday at the Cork GAA match to see that. These people screw us all and put us back into these lockdowns.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    AdamD wrote: »
    The fawning over Tony Holohan is more than a little weird.

    Seems amnesia is very prevalent amongst a certain cohort.


  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Unfortunately people can not be trusted. You only have to look at the disgraceful scenes yesterday at the Cork GAA match to see that. These people screw us all and put us back into these lockdowns.

    This is such a red herring. Numbers go up when we open up the country. Swear some people just love trying to assign blame. Numbers are up in every bloody country in Europe, we are not unique, there is no need for blame.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Usually between 3:30 - 4:30

    Eurghh, ages away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,972 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Gradius wrote: »
    Yes, I'll read more about their efforts to find a cure to a disease and that will make it 100% a fact.

    Sure why not throw in a cure for cancer too?

    Just because you really want something doesn't make it an inevitability. Planning your life on something that may or may not happen is insanity.

    Yes, hope for the thing to materialise, but don't plan on it.

    What if it's 2022 by the time something is created? Happy to live in this joke until then?

    100s of vaccines have been created and some are in widespread use. We’re realistically going to have some sort of distribution happening by the end of the year.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 141 ✭✭Thomas..


    Having MM at the helm doesn't inspire much confidence

    There'll be some sort of a fudge come out today , that's all he's good for


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    queues outside toy shops being reported.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    If you currently believe a vaccine may never exist you need to read more

    I wouldn't bother. Same poster referred to the GFA as a little bit of political paper and wanted the gov to break international law last night.

    Better off banging your head against a wall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Ministers and senior officials believe it is unlikely that a decision to immediately begin a new lockdown will be taken on Monday. Some sources said that they expected the level of restrictions to be increased - possibly to Level 4 in Dublin and Level 3 three around the country - but that a move to Level 5 was unlikely.
    https://twitter.com/PatLeahyIT/status/1313075806671953921?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,192 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    froog wrote: »
    everywhere green until we get a vaccine. amber if cases are rising for a period of 3-5 consecutive days. RED if cases still rising two weeks after going AMBER.

    no debating, no sub committees. the levels enforced immediately. everyone knows the criteria.
    Sounds good.

    I think the problem currently is that this lockdown seems to have come out of the blue. I know NPHET have a difficult job monitoring data and trying to make decisions, but we need to know why there was no need for Level 3 a few days ago, and now we've jumped to Level 5.

    Businesses in particular need to be able to plan. They can't cope with 24 hours notice (or less) of everything being shut down. They can cope a bit if they get a week, or longer, notice.

    It's one of the reasons I like the "circuit breaker" ideas. Flag a period in advance where you inform the country that everything is going to be shut down for 2 or 4 weeks. If we have to do 2 months open 1 month closed for the next 12 months let's do that to get us to vaccines and rapid testing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,972 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Ministers and senior officials believe it is unlikely that a decision to immediately begin a new lockdown will be taken on Monday. Some sources said that they expected the level of restrictions to be increased - possibly to Level 4 in Dublin and Level 3 three around the country - but that a move to Level 5 was unlikely.
    https://twitter.com/PatLeahyIT/status/1313075806671953921?s=19

    Level 4 in Dublin and level 3 nationwide is waaaay more realistic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭batman75


    I’m expecting a lockdown to be announced today. I would rather not be in lockdown but ultimately people’s health has to take centre stage above all else.
    Going forward there needs to be consistency from the Govt on what gets shuts down.
    Pubs being opened is a no no as far as I’m concerned until a proven vaccine is found. This buy food is a load of crap. Once alcohol is consumed people can drop their guard. Also most Irish pubs are small so socially distancing is not possible.
    Pleased to see Dr Holohan back. He did a sterling job until tragic personal circumstances took him understandably out of circulation. Keep safe everyone


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,459 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Ministers and senior officials believe it is unlikely that a decision to immediately begin a new lockdown will be taken on Monday. Some sources said that they expected the level of restrictions to be increased - possibly to Level 4 in Dublin and Level 3 three around the country - but that a move to Level 5 was unlikely.
    https://twitter.com/PatLeahyIT/status/1313075806671953921?s=19
    Kicking the can down the road, IMO


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