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Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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  • #8432
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Again addressing absolutely nothing in the post.

    Duck and dive as much as you want

    No avoidance here.

    See the umpteen posts proclaiming that a do-nothing strategy is a winner. That's avoidance for you.


  • #8433
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    lillycakes2 wrote: »
    are outpatient apps being stopped anyone know?

    Last I heard was Tallaght hospital had stopped elective surgery, I haven't heard of any others following them.


  • #8434
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    nocoverart wrote: »
    So I had a lovely hotel booked for the weekend and was hoping for some nice chilled out drinks in the residence bar, guess that’s a no go now, right? sounding selfish but I’m a Carer to a family member who needs 24/7 care and it’s my Birthday the weekend. Best I cancel if there’s tons of restrictions in place for hotels.

    If your family member is in the vulnerable category then you have a hard decision to make.


  • #8435
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,446 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Miike wrote: »
    There's a whole thread discussing candidate vaccines and the research in that area.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058062347

    Nope. That is a thread discussing few of them. Most of the "experts" there completely dismiss chinese and russian effort. All you can see there is the church of oxford, moderna and astra.


  • #8436
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Gradius wrote: »
    No avoidance here.

    See the umpteen posts proclaiming that a do-nothing strategy is a winner. That's avoidance for you.

    No avoidance ??

    You've avoided the whole good Friday agreement which has been pointed out multiple times in relation to your want for a hard border.

    Your shouting and roaring to do something while offering absolutely no practical solutions.

    You dismissed an international treaty as a bit of political paper. You've absolutely no understanding of international law and just talking out your backside


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  • #8437
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Strumms wrote: »
    There are literally millions of Irish passport holders across the globe.

    That doesn’t mean that they should be entitled to during the ongoing pandemic just rock up here. Sorry.

    I'm taking about Irish citizens, not specifically Irish passport holders.
    And to deny entry to Irish passport holders into Ireland is unacceptable.
    Unless that's another piece of paper some on here are willing to tear up.


  • #8438
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,406 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    https://www.newstalk.com/news/air-pollution-deaths-epa-1081490#:~:text=Nearly%20as%20many%20people%20will,pollution%20in%20Ireland%20every%20year.

    Link dated 25 September 2020.

    Fair play to you writing off so many lives. I wish I could be that scummy.


    Less than Covid, as you point out.


  • #8439
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,138 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Ok, I can't disagree with you there. If genetics come into play then yes, it can spread just as you mention. I will say it's at a much slower rate, but you've certainly made a point.

    CF is in my family, i know a lot about I’ve researched it beyond all scope of possibility. I got lucky I was born healthy and well, but both my sisters died from CF One 8 months, one 9 years of age. that’s why I’ve been more than anal as I’ve had to be with every step I take in life since this covid hell... my parents have been through enough...


  • #8440
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Nope. That is a thread discussing few of them. Most of the "experts" there completely dismiss chinese and russian effort. All you can see there is the church of oxford, moderna and astra.

    I think they mainly discuss vaccines which can be approved by EU regulators.
    I can piss into a vile and say it's a vaccine. Unless it's approved by an EU regulator it won't be shot into your arm.


  • #8441
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    No avoidance ??

    You've avoided the whole good Friday agreement which has been pointed out multiple times.

    You shouting and roaring to do something which offering absolutely no practical solutions.

    You dismissed an international treaty as a bit of political paper

    Listen, I don't give a flying fook about bits of paper. The reason I don't, in this case, is because the virus doesn't.

    You can have your bits of paper and a virus that is ruining the country, or you can have alternative bits of paper and a strategy to kill the virus.

    Your choice.

    The practical solution is to eradicate the virus from the country.


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  • #8442
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    somefeen wrote: »
    This is totally off topic and I don't even know what side of this disagreement I'm even on because I couldn't be arsed to read the whole thread.


    BUT. This is the finest example of internet-hardassery I've ever seen.


    You can't use a phrase like, "the cat got your tongue?" in a text conversation.
    I mean wtf, that phrase is used when someone goes silent after you've made your point.
    You can't use it on a post on a forum because the person you're talking to hasn't even been able to see what you've said yet. What you're saying didn't even exist until you hit 'submit reply'.



    Did you think they could read what you were typing live? In real time?
    Did you pause for a moment and wait for them to type something?
    Were you trying to sound condescending? There were far better ways.

    Do you even understand how this works?
    Has the pandemic driven me so crazy that this matters to me?
    Why do you hurt me like this?

    Time for you to lay off the G and Ts and go to bed pal.


  • #8443
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,138 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    I'm taking about Irish citizens, not specifically Irish passport holders.
    And to deny entry to Irish passport holders into Ireland is unacceptable.
    Unless that's another piece of paper some on here are willing to tear up.

    You have to be an Irish citizen to hold an Irish passport.


  • #8444
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    My prediction is that there'll be massive numbers tomorrow and that will be the "justification", we'll be at level 4 from Tuesday 00:00h, but there'll be no improvement in two weeks and that will send us hurtling to level 5. By then, the unions will probably have kicked up enough of a stir that schools will be closed for the month, planned until mid-Nov.

    There'll be faffing around about reopening again but the numbers still won't be low enough and the decision will be made to keep things closed until after the Christmas holidays.

    Let's meet back here in Feb to regroup k? Enjoy the new year.


  • #8445
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,648 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    There is no vaccine on the way.

    Pure Bollox. Have you actually done any research on vaccines at all?? Or did you pull that statement out of your arse?


  • #8446
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Gradius wrote: »
    Listen, I don't give a flying fook about bits of paper. The reason I don't, in this case, is because the virus doesn't.

    You can have your bits of paper and a virus that is ruining the country, or you can have alternative bits of paper and a strategy to kill the virus.

    Your choice.

    The practical solution is to eradicate the virus from the country.

    Bits of paper, a bloody international treaty, you might not care about it but powers higher than you do. International law trumps the lot no matter how much your talk nonsense about it.

    So you want alternative bits of paper ? So rip up the GFA is it ???

    Christ your utterly clueless, "bits of paper".


  • #8447
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,173 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40059473.html%3ftype=amp


  • #8448
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Strumms wrote: »
    CF is in my family, i know a lot about I’ve researched it beyond all scope of possibility. I got lucky I was born healthy and well, but both my sisters died from CF One 8 months, one 9 years of age. that’s why I’ve been more than anal as I’ve had to be with every step I take in life since this covid hell... my parents have been through enough...

    I have no experience with CF and pray I never do.
    I think the issue is when we get death announcements, we hear people say we've normally 80 deaths a day, what about them etc...
    We hear about car crashes etc....
    It's a covid thread, about covid etc... That's not to be dismissive about other deaths.


  • #8449
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Bits of paper, a bloody international treaty, you might not care about it but powers higher than you do.

    So you want alternative bits of paper ? So rip up the GFA is it ???

    Christ your utterly clueless, "bits of paper".

    Are you going to defeat the virus with your precious bits of paper? No, you aren't.

    Are these bits of paper standing in the way of defeating the virus? Yes, they are.

    You can have the bits of paper and a virus, or not.

    Easy choice no?


  • #8450
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,138 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    If the government ever take the step of ignoring NPHET advice we are heading in a very dangerous direction. MM and Leo might seriously need to treble up on security.


  • #8451
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,548 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    lillycakes2 wrote: »
    are outpatient apps being stopped anyone know?

    Not stopped , but most hospitals going virtual for non urgent appointments ie. phone and video call if visual needed.


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  • #8452
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Strumms wrote: »
    You have to be an Irish citizen to hold an Irish passport.

    Doesn't negate the point, you cannot stop the entering the country.


  • #8453
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Doesn't negate the point, you cannot stop the entering the country.

    Big huge giants made of metal so they are, can't stop people like that.


  • #8454
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Gradius wrote: »
    Are you going to defeat the virus with your precious bits of paper? No, you aren't.

    Are these bits of paper standing in the way of defeating the virus? Yes, they are.

    You can have the bits of paper and a virus, or not.

    Easy choice no?

    Easy choice?? No its not because its international law and your utterly clueless as to how that works.

    I'm done even discussing it with you at this stage. A child would have more concept of international law than you would.

    "Bits of paper" is an international treaty which trumps any of your crack pot theory.

    I actually can't believe that there's People advocating for a breach of international law


  • #8455
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Bits of paper, a bloody international treaty, you might not care about it but powers higher than you do. International law trumps the lot no matter how much your talk nonsense about it.

    So you want alternative bits of paper ? So rip up the GFA is it ???

    Christ your utterly clueless, "bits of paper".

    This nutjob would be throwing on the GFA and Constitution on the bonfire with all the other books back in the '30's in Germany!


  • #8456
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,138 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Doesn't negate the point, you cannot stop the entering the country.

    I doubt you are wrong, but if emergency legislation can be passed...


  • #8457
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,548 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Again addressing absolutely nothing in the post.

    Duck and dive as much as you want

    Fact is , Northern Ireland are in a worse place than us so would probably be heading in the same direction.


  • #8458
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,446 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    I think they mainly discuss vaccines which can be approved by EU regulators.
    I can piss into a vile and say it's a vaccine. Unless it's approved by an EU regulator it won't be shot into your arm.

    I agree. However say some have good headstart and if proven working why would have EU regulator problem to approve them?
    Because it is politics and money.
    Say hypothetically all chinese, russian and western vaccines will work (sci-fi scenario). Do you think EU regulator will approve Chinese one which most likely come at a fraction of price? Not going to happen. Governments already pre-purchased millions of doses of something which does not exist yet and nobody even knows if it will work. Not to mention that EU regulator is still out of picture despite multiple purchase orders placed.


  • #8459
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Id say its just to frighten the people into behaving themselves a bit better. There won't be a level 5 lockdown.


  • #8460
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Fact is , Northern Ireland are in a worse place than us so would probably be heading in the same direction.

    They may well be, still doesn't mean you chuck an international treaty into the firing line


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  • #8461
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Easy choice?? No its not because its international law and your utterly clueless as to how that works.

    I'm done even discussing it with you at this stage. A child would have more concept of international law than you would.

    "Bits of paper" is an international treaty which trumps any of your crack pot theory.

    It's an easy choice when it comes down to it.

    Do something or do nothing. Easy.

    It's like getting a spoilt brat to eat vegetables. They'll get hungry enough eventually that they'll eat anything.

    Let's see how precious people are when this shytstorm is three times worse come next spring.


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