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Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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  • #8402
    lillycakes2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭lillycakes2


    I am waiting for Ct scan in the public system. With level 5 restrictions, is this going to be affected? will out patient appointments go ahead?
    They will hardly lock down the whole health system again ?


  • #8403
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I'm not backed into a corner at all. I'm well aware of how porous the hard border was when the BA/DF patrolled it. Since the late 90's we have no border due to an international treaty ratified by a referendum here that you seem clueless about.
    As I said in a different response we have to learn to live alongside the virus.

    So your plan is...ta dah...do fook all.

    Easiest plan ever. Again, how's that working out?


  • #8404
    flanna01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭flanna01


    Thanks be to God for myself...

    Will ye all tighten up you're britches for just one minute...

    The Country will not be going into national lockdown, get your heads around that and we'll move on..

    1) The biggest issue in Ireland at the moment is the economy, if you think it's anything else but that... Well, god bless you!

    2) The medical team have NO OPTION but to report what would be the best method to eradicate the virus.. Sure, Lock us down, no more travelling around the place.. Makes sense to me.

    3) From a medical point of view, that will sort everthing out.. The medics have done their job...

    4) Politicians... Now that's a different beast.. They have to make the decision..

    So.. Lets assume they take the recommendations of the Virus Boys and implement a level 5 scenario across the Island of Ireland... That's the economy ruined...

    No doubt the business people will be up in arms, their business all but in ruins, the banks closing in....Blah, Blah, Blah...

    Refuse to take advice of the medical Board... And mass deaths occur... The Government will be held totally responsible for the loss of every life in Ireland due to Covid.

    It's a no win situation for the Government!


  • #8405
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Strumms wrote: »
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland–United_Kingdom_border

    Non existent you say

    Non controlled yes, non existent no.

    It's a border, but the Irish government cannot stop anyone passing across it, especially Irish citizens. Lucky for us this Covid doesn't need a human host..... oh wait it does..... That's that plan ruined.


  • #8406
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,298 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Miike wrote: »
    There's a whole thread discussing candidate vaccines and the research in that area.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058062347

    So which company will be producing the vaccine?

    It wasn't me making the claim.

    Do tell me so I can invest and become a multi-millionaire.


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  • #8407
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,138 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    It's a border, but the Irish government cannot stop anyone passing across it, especially Irish citizens. Lucky for us this Covid doesn't need a human host..... oh wait it does..... That's that plan ruined.

    That’s why if it needs to be controlled, it should be. ;)


  • #8408
    j8wk2feszrnpao
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    Miike wrote: »
    There's a whole thread discussing candidate vaccines and the research in that area.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058062347

    Somehow, I doubt they’ll visit that, read up on the numerous vaccines (and different approaches) being worked on and actually educate themselves. Easier to keep their head in the sand.


  • #8409
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭Miike


    munstermagic11 wrote: »
    Somehow, I doubt they’ll visit that, read up on the numerous vaccines (and different approaches) being worked on and actually educate themselves. Easier to keep their head in the sand.

    As demonstrated by their reply.


  • #8410
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    https://www.newstalk.com/news/air-pollution-deaths-epa-1081490#:~:text=Nearly%20as%20many%20people%20will,pollution%20in%20Ireland%20every%20year.

    Link dated 25 September 2020.

    Fair play to you writing off so many lives. I wish I could be that scummy.

    I'm well aware we have a high number of deaths due to bad air pollution, we also have very high rates of CF. Where i'm failing to to see the connections is, how does air pollution cause exponential deaths?
    Does everyone who gets diagnosed with it, go out and buy a dirty diesel and rev the tits off it at a red light? It's thew only way I can see exponential growth


  • #8411
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Gradius wrote: »
    So your plan is...ta dah...do fook all.

    Easiest plan ever. Again, how's that working out?

    Yet you've given no logical reasoning as to how anything you suggest could be implemented.

    Some amount of nonsense coming out of you despite being asked multiple times to suggest / back up your point of view.

    You also dimissed the good Friday agreement as a piece of political paper.... complete ignorance


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  • #8412
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    It's a border, but the Irish government cannot stop anyone passing across it, especially Irish citizens. Lucky for us this Covid doesn't need a human host..... oh wait it does..... That's that plan ruined.

    It's literally impossible to stop a human being going from A to B.

    All I've seen, as predicted, are a whole load of "that can't be done!" followed up by the brain melting idea that we should do nothing instead.

    A difficult plan that requires a lot of effort and adjustment, versus watching the country go down the tubes. Easy choice for some.

    Arguing for status quo while the status quo is a disaster.

    We'll see how the head scratchers and naysayers are feeling come the February lockdown. Still talking about "can't" I predict.


  • #8413
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,138 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    I'm well aware we have a high number of deaths due to bad air pollution, we also have very high rates of CF. Where i'm failing to to see the connections is, how does air pollution cause exponential deaths?
    Does everyone who gets diagnosed with it, go out and buy a dirty diesel and rev the tits off it at a red light? It's thew only way I can see exponential growth

    CF is something too that you WILL be born with, you can’t contract it. You WILL die from it. No cure exists.

    Covid you will contract because of your choices, behaviors and those choices and behaviors of others.


  • #8414
    j8wk2feszrnpao
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    Miike wrote: »
    As demonstrated by their reply.
    I have fools on ignore so can’t see it, but not surprised. Some people want to remain ignorant.


  • #8415
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,689 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    WHO advice is against national lockdowns.


  • #8416
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,672 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    https://www.newstalk.com/news/air-pollution-deaths-epa-1081490#:~:text=Nearly%20as%20many%20people%20will,pollution%20in%20Ireland%20every%20year.

    Link dated 25 September 2020.

    Fair play to you writing off so many lives. I wish I could be that scummy.
    Can you name just one person who died from air pollution?
    Just one.
    I can wait.


  • #8417
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Yet you've given no logical reasoning as to how anything you suggest could be implemented.

    Some amount of nonsense coming out of you despite being asked multiple times to suggest / back up your point of view.

    You also dimissed the good Friday agreement as a piece of political paper.... complete ignorance

    Listen, it's really easy.

    When faced with the choice of "any plan" versus "no plan", you try something. You give a bit of hope, it might work.

    Doing nothing is hopeless and we all know where this heading if we keep doing nothing.


  • #8418
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Strumms wrote: »
    That’s why if it needs to be controlled, it should be. ;)

    I'm not a 5G nutter, anti lockdown, anti mask brigade.
    I'll accept restrictions on travelling out of my county for non essential travel etc...
    If you deny entry on the border to Irish citizens... I'd actually take that as an attack, an insult... It just wouldn't sit right with me.
    It's the same as an aer lingus plane on approach to Dublin to be told, nah feic off, you're not allowed land, go back to where ya came from.

    The north isn't populated by northerners, they (a high percentage) are Irish born and Irish citizens. The GFA gave them the right and protections and the Irish government will not just abandon them.

    This really feels like a brexit post!


  • #8419
    somefeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭somefeen


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    So which vaccine will be all getting?

    If it's such basic research, do share this information with us.

    I'd gladly buy stock in the company that has this vaccine on the way.

    Oh, the cat caught your tongue?


    This is totally off topic and I don't even know what side of this disagreement I'm even on because I couldn't be arsed to read the whole thread.


    BUT. This is the finest example of internet-hardassery I've ever seen.


    You can't use a phrase like, "the cat got your tongue?" in a text conversation.
    I mean wtf, that phrase is used when someone goes silent after you've made your point.
    You can't use it on a post on a forum because the person you're talking to hasn't even been able to see what you've said yet. What you're saying didn't even exist until you hit 'submit reply'.



    Did you think they could read what you were typing live? In real time?
    Did you pause for a moment and wait for them to type something?
    Were you trying to sound condescending? There were far better ways.

    Do you even understand how this works?
    Has the pandemic driven me so crazy that this matters to me?
    Why do you hurt me like this?


  • #8420
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,446 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Gradius wrote: »
    Isolate the country in the most achievable way possible.

    What's the brief synopsis of your idea?

    You can isolate yourself. Would not be a bad idea. If you want something bigger then try to isolate your own family. So you will not get bored and have some reduced quality of life.

    If you want to think in grandiose terms and try to isolate whole of the Ireland you have to ask others if they support this marvelous idea. I will oppose it. You can try to make me comply.
    What do you suggest - pistols or swords?


  • #8421
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,138 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    rob316 wrote: »
    WHO advice is against national lockdowns.

    Source ?


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  • #8422
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    So I had a lovely hotel booked for the weekend and was hoping for some nice chilled out drinks in the residence bar, guess that’s a no go now, right? sounding selfish but I’m a Carer to a family member who needs 24/7 care and it’s my Birthday the weekend. Best I cancel if there’s tons of restrictions in place for hotels.


  • #8423
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    I'm not a 5G nutter, anti lockdown, anti mask brigade.
    I'll accept restrictions on travelling out of my county for non essential travel etc...
    If you deny entry on the border to Irish citizens... I'd actually take that as an attack, an insult... It just wouldn't sit right with me.
    It's the same as an aer lingus plane on approach to Dublin to be told, nah feic off, you're not allowed land, go back to where ya came from.

    The north isn't populated by northerners, they (a high percentage) are Irish born and Irish citizens. The GFA gave them the right and protections and the Irish government will not just abandon them.

    This really feels like a brexit post!

    A virus won't care about your indignation.

    You are making a virus political. It isn't.


  • #8424
    lillycakes2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭lillycakes2


    are outpatient apps being stopped anyone know?


  • #8425
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Gradius wrote: »
    Listen, it's really easy.

    When faced with the choice of "any plan" versus "no plan", you try something. You give a bit of hope, it might work.

    Doing nothing is hopeless and we all know where this heading if we keep doing nothing.

    Zero Covid is your plan ?


  • #8426
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    You can isolate yourself. Would not be a bad idea. If you want something bigger then try to isolate your own family. So you will not get bored and have some reduced quality of life.

    If you want to think in grandiose terms and try to isolate whole of the Ireland you have to ask others if they support this marvelous idea. I will oppose it. You can try to make me comply.
    What do you suggest - pistols or swords?

    Do you have a better idea?

    I'm not attacking you. This whole shytshow has long outlived it's welcome.

    Come January and things are even worse, people are going to start demanding answers.

    The time for having the luxury of rejecting ideas is fast running out.


  • #8427
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,446 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Gradius wrote: »
    If I told you I have 42 degrees, would that improve my credibility with you? No, it wouldn't. So there's no point asking.

    I outlined my idea.

    Now, for the umpteenth time, let's hear your idea.

    If you have 42 degrees you should get to hospital asap. Anything over 38 could be symptom of covid and at 42 people start to hallucinate. This may explain some of the posts you made recently.


  • #8428
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,138 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    I'm not a 5G nutter, anti lockdown, anti mask brigade.
    I'll accept restrictions on travelling out of my county for non essential travel etc...
    If you deny entry on the border to Irish citizens... I'd actually take that as an attack, an insult... It just wouldn't sit right with me.
    It's the same as an aer lingus plane on approach to Dublin to be told, nah feic off, you're not allowed land, go back to where ya came from.

    The north isn't populated by northerners, they (a high percentage) are Irish born and Irish citizens. The GFA gave them the right and protections and the Irish government will not just abandon them.

    This really feels like a brexit post!

    There are literally millions of Irish passport holders across the globe.

    That doesn’t mean that they should be entitled to during the ongoing pandemic just rock up here. Sorry.


  • #8429
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Gradius wrote: »
    Listen, it's really easy.

    When faced with the choice of "any plan" versus "no plan", you try something. You give a bit of hope, it might work.

    Doing nothing is hopeless and we all know where this heading if we keep doing nothing.

    Again addressing absolutely nothing in the post.

    Duck and dive as much as you want


  • #8430
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Strumms wrote: »
    CF is something too that you WILL be born with, you can’t contract it. You WILL die from it. No cure exists.

    Covid you will contract because of your choices, behaviors and those choices and behaviors of others.

    Ok, I can't disagree with you there. If genetics come into play then yes, it can spread just as you mention. I will say it's at a much slower rate, but you've certainly made a point.


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  • #8431
    Gradius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Zero Covid is your plan ?

    I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but essentially the best plan is to eradicate the disease from the country. Not kick the can down the ever-shortening road.

    It is achievable.

    And in the face of no other exit strategy, whatsoever, any plan is better than no plan.

    The palatability of such a plan will increase the longer this joke goes on with no end in sight.


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