Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

connachta · 14-09-2020 03:40PM

breezy1985 wrote: »

18 is a scary one in terms of time gaps and Sam will need to be on his toes. Sagan will definitely be looking for the win on stage 19 but most all the other big players in the peleton will be happy with a breakaway as the TT is the next day.

I would say absolute max Sagan will take more than Sam is 60 before Paris but Sam should have the upper hand there and could take back enough for green but more likely he is wearing it going into paris

Yeah main issue is finishing on time stage 18 and controlling Bora in the little climb (or just after) stage 19

CrowdedHouse · 14-09-2020 03:43PM

Hilly start to tomorrow's stage as well, a potential 20-0 to Sagan if he got away

breezy1985 · 14-09-2020 03:46PM

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

Hilly start to tomorrow's stage as well, a potential 20-0 to Sagan if he got away

Sam has looked smarter to Sagan's tactics than any other rival the last 8 years. Is Sagan goes Sam will too and atleast get some points even if he can't get all 20 in the hills

14-09-2020 03:49PM

The other option would be to send team mates away and have them scoop up the big points to limit a loss.

connachta · 14-09-2020 04:28PM

breezy1985 wrote: »

Sam has looked smarter to Sagan's tactics than any other rival the last 8 years. Is Sagan goes Sam will too and atleast get some points even if he can't get all 20 in the hills

The hill is short and not very difficult. Sam should pass it at worse 30 sec later than Sagan.
Even with 2 teamates and a few other riders attacking with Sagan, the entire Quick Step team can make the jonction before the intermediate sprint 32 km further on a flat road

lawrencesummers · 14-09-2020 05:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The other option would be to send team mates away and have them scoop up the big points to limit a loss.

Good chance of that happening, even with two of them trying to get away, and then Sam taking Sagans wheel and pipping him at the line like he has so many time in the tour so far. Maybe backing his ability to beat Sagan over 100m is the way to go.

c.p.w.g.w · 14-09-2020 05:58PM

If the sprinters do get spat out by Bora setting a really high pace...

But the sprinter teams just sit up and roll home after the time limit...

Are they really going to kick out Quick-Step, Lotto & CCC

happytramp · 14-09-2020 06:58PM

MPFGLB wrote: »

Oh I so hope he keeps that jersey

I'm not sure how he can stand the stress of it all... I can barely handle just watching and thinking about it.

cunavalos · 14-09-2020 07:12PM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

If the sprinters do get spat out by Bora setting a really high pace...

But the sprinter teams just sit up and roll home after the time limit...

Are they really going to kick out Quick-Step, Lotto & CCC

The precedence is already established that if a group of riders are outside the time limit but still allowed to continue they will all be deducted points.

In 2011 Cavendish was OTL but allowed to continue with a penalty of 20 green jersey points
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-loses-20-points-on-tour-de-france-queen-stage/

breezy1985 · 14-09-2020 08:24PM

cunavalos wrote: »

The precedence is already established that if a group of riders are outside the time limit but still allowed to continue they will all be deducted points.

In 2011 Cavendish was OTL but allowed to continue with a penalty of 20 green jersey points
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-loses-20-points-on-tour-de-france-queen-stage/

That day it was done because over half the peleton would have been over the line not just the green jersey

connachta · 14-09-2020 09:08PM

Saved or not, the penalty will mean the end of green jersey that's for sure.
He has to stay on time
Nothing to worry tomorrow and next.
Thursday will be very hard.
He has to do the job in any descents...

Keeks · 15-09-2020 07:20AM

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

Hilly start to tomorrow's stage as well, a potential 20-0 to Sagan if he got away

I don't see this in any of the stages.....

There are a lot of teams and some larger named riders that still have nothing from this tour so we are likely to see some large breakaways this week......this will help Sam over the next 2 days anyway

The other thing is that Trentin seems to have taken an interest in the points race also....This brings CCC in to play...

CramCycle · 15-09-2020 08:12AM

Keeks wrote: »

The other thing is that Trentin seems to have taken an interest in the points race also....This brings CCC in to play...

Interesting to see if he goes all out for it, he could narrow it down to spitting distance of Peter with ease if he gets in the break.

mr spuckler · 15-09-2020 08:19AM

Sam Bennett: Green jersey is a different kind of pressure but I'm coping with it

Keeks wrote: »

The other thing is that Trentin seems to have taken an interest in the points race also....This brings CCC in to play...

I thought he'd given up on it after his comments last week, saying why bother with the effort if he couldn't even place in the final sprints?

deandean · 15-09-2020 08:56AM

Macy0161 · 15-09-2020 09:31AM

mr spuckler wrote: »

I thought he'd given up on it after his comments last week, saying why bother with the effort if he couldn't even place in the final sprints?

Must have forgotten to tell his teamies that last week, the bollox.

mr spuckler · 15-09-2020 09:49AM

Macy0161 wrote: »

Must have forgotten to tell his teamies that last week, the bollox.

:pac:

Took me a while to find the quote...

Matteo Trentin (CCC Team) again battled for points at the intermediate sprint, taking the win in Châtelaillon-Plage as a block headwind kept the peloton compact for most of the second half of the stage, but after missing out completely in the final sprint, he said, "If you don't score in the finish there is no reason to keep going for this."

https://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tour-de-france-2020/stage-10/results/

mr spuckler · 22-09-2020 12:27PM

Sam Bennett's journey to the Tour de France Green Jersey

Keeks · 22-09-2020 12:43PM

mr spuckler wrote: »

Sam Bennett's journey to the Tour de France Green Jersey

the one thing that stands out for me in all the video clips over the last few days is the genuine delight from all his teammates in the celebrations and congratulations.....It is more than just a pat on the back saying well done......and to me that shows that these guys must think that Sam is a genuinely nice guy

Who says nice guys finish last

neris · 22-09-2020 01:00PM

Keeks wrote: »

the one thing that stands out for me in all the video clips over the last few days is the genuine delight from all his teammates in the celebrations and congratulations.....It is more than just a pat on the back saying well done......and to me that shows that these guys must think that Sam is a genuinely nice guy

Who says nice guys finish last

well he did finish last a few years ago and Im sure Roger Kluge is a nice guy

Mefistofelino · 22-09-2020 04:24PM

mr spuckler wrote: »

Sam Bennett's journey to the Tour de France Green Jersey

When you buy your Willem Dafoe on Wish...

Seth Brundle · 23-09-2020 12:31PM

https://twitter.com/Deceuninck/status/1307942245098717185

Doc07 · 24-09-2020 07:20PM

He’s on the Late Late Show tomorrow, now he’s really made it....unfortunately so are Jedward.
Maybe Tubs will get Morkov on the next week

TheBlaaMan · 24-09-2020 08:27PM

Doc07 wrote: »

He’s on the Late Late Show tomorrow, now he’s really made it....unfortunately so are Jedward.
Maybe Tubs will get Morkov on the next week

Great, you can expect Tubridy to make some stupid comment about dangerous cycling/cyclists on Dublin streets.......

North of 32 · 24-09-2020 08:59PM

Tubridy: ''And c'mere to me Sam, where did you finish overall?''

harringtonp · 24-09-2020 09:21PM

Anyone else find it hard at times to listen to non cyclists (non roadies) interviewing the likes of Sam ?

Questions sound daft at times and you just can't explain to the public what its about in 5 mins

They say Belgium is the worlds cycling capital but I do wonder if even there the wider population understand the sport

24-09-2020 09:44PM

I found the rookie interviewer Bernie Eisel harder to listen to at the tour to be honest when he was asking questions. I miss Juan Antonio and Laura Meseguer

breezy1985 · 25-09-2020 06:43AM

Doc07 wrote: »

He’s on the Late Late Show tomorrow, now he’s really made it....unfortunately so are Jedward.
Maybe Tubs will get Morkov on the next week

Now that Jedward have been recruited by the Illuminati to take out Jim Corr they are alright in my book

connachta · 25-09-2020 03:38PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EixS5xHVoAEPJLc?format=jpg&name=large

Blanco100 · 25-09-2020 03:43PM

North of 32 wrote: »

Tubridy: ''And c'mere to me Sam, where did you finish overall?''

Tubridy will say theres such a sense of irishness to the win. Ask him if he likes guinness. Then he will remember hes actually irish and malfunction

Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

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