2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

namloc1980 · 22-09-2020 08:28PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Anyone good at maths here? What is 200k as a fraction of 330 million?

I'm guessing you think 9/11 was just a bad day at the office.

22-09-2020 08:29PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

It's because Biden is that bad, Trump should be dead and buried according to many people but they were probably the same people that were laughing when they were asked if he would in 2016.

I would say it more shows that a portion of the US audience have a taste for dramatic showmanship and even though many are potentially aware that Trump is lying, they simply don't care. That says a lot about certain parts of US society and none of it is positive.

Timberrrrrrrr · 22-09-2020 08:33PM

salmocab wrote: »

Is this it now? It’s only 200,000 people! This is an unexpected spin I have to say.

Trump himself set the precedent

"Yes, people are dying, It is what it is"

Donald J Trump.

Billy Mays · 22-09-2020 08:33PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

I'm guessing you think 9/11 was just a bad day at the office.

It was for 3,000 or so people. That's 0.001% of the population in case you were wondering.

Bizzarre how they make a big song and dance about it every year when the anniversary rolls around

LessOutragePlz · 22-09-2020 08:36PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I would say it more shows that a portion of the US audience have a taste for dramatic showmanship and even though many are potentially aware that Trump is lying, they simply don't care. That says a lot about certain parts of US society and none of it is positive.

That is part of the problem though the ridiculing that some Trump supporters get does not help in trying to convince them why they should vote for Biden over Trump. It's basically fvck you if you're voting for Trump and you're human garbage.

22-09-2020 08:39PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Those people were murdered, have some respect.

Wouldn't exactly say you're being respectful of the dead by attempting to spin covid as a success for Trump..

DangerScouse · 22-09-2020 08:41PM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Omg, white supremecist.

That of course is using the logic of the left. Im, sure there will be outrage over it :rolleyes:

C'mon Man.

Holy sh1t he looks weak there. What age is he now?

Timberrrrrrrr · 22-09-2020 08:48PM

DangerScouse wrote: »

Holy sh1t he looks weak there. What age is he now?

:rolleyes:

mcmoustache · 22-09-2020 09:20PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Anyone good at maths here? What is 200k as a fraction of 330 million?

It's not going to stop at 200k. Their current trajectory is about 30k deaths per month in a fairly straight line. Outside of dysfunctional, poor countries, nobody's doing that badly.

Kidchameleon · 22-09-2020 09:24PM

I see Mitt Romney is going to be backing Trump's supreme court nominee. Does this mean Barrett is all but guaranteed the job? I'm assuming she's going to be his pick but the official announcement will be on Saturday, cant wait!

Major boost for Trump as Romney backs vote on supreme court nomination

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/22/mitt-romney-trump-supreme-court-nominee-vote

namloc1980 · 22-09-2020 09:25PM

mcmoustache wrote: »

It's not going to stop at 200k. Their current trajectory is about 30k deaths per month in a fairly straight line. Outside of dysfunctional, poor countries, nobody's doing that badly.

2 people died of Ebola in the the US and Trump called for Obama to resign.

4 people died in Benghazi and the Republicans conducted 6 investigations and found nothing.

But I guess 200,000 dead is just one of those things.

Professor Moriarty · 22-09-2020 09:25PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I see Mitt Romney is going to be backing Trump's supreme court nominee. Does this mean Barrett is all but guaranteed the job? I'm assuming she's going to be his pick but the official announcement will be on Saturday, cant wait!

Major boost for Trump as Romney backs vote on supreme court nomination

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/22/mitt-romney-trump-supreme-court-nominee-vote

Why are you so excited about this announcement on Saturday?

Danzy · 22-09-2020 09:28PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Why are you so excited about this announcement on Saturday?

He must be one of those feminists.

Eager for another woman Supreme Court Judge.

Professor Moriarty · 22-09-2020 09:30PM

Danzy wrote: »

He must be one of those feminists.

Eager for another woman Supreme Court Judge.

I guess that makes The Donald a feminist also. Who'd have thunk it.

Kidchameleon · 22-09-2020 09:30PM

mcmoustache wrote: »

It's not going to stop at 200k. Their current trajectory is about 30k deaths per month in a fairly straight line. Outside of dysfunctional, poor countries, nobody's doing that badly.

I don't want to get into a Covid debate here because we probably will not agree no matter what but what I will say is this: take a look at some of the countries with higher deaths per 1m population to the USA, hardly poor or dysfunctional are they? I genuinely think Covid is not as big an election issue as people here are making it out to be.

That's not to say that it is not a serious problem, it is and I believe every death is a tragedy.

Timberrrrrrrr · 22-09-2020 09:31PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

2 people died of Ebola in the the US and Trump called for Obama to resign.

4 people died in Benghazi and the Republicans conducted 6 investigations and found nothing.

But I guess 200,000 dead is just one of those things.

"Yes, people are dying..... it is what it is"

Donald J Trump.

salmocab · 22-09-2020 09:32PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Why are you so excited about this announcement on Saturday?

Owning libs, it’s all they care about anymore.

mcmoustache · 22-09-2020 09:32PM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Omg, white supremecist.

That of course is using the logic of the left. Im, sure there will be outrage over it :rolleyes:

C'mon Man.

Context dude.

Is he responding to a question or is he at a party with known neo-nazis?

Sort of like hailing a cab on the street versus hailing a cab at a nuremburg rally.

eire4 · 22-09-2020 09:33PM

mcmoustache wrote: »

It's not going to stop at 200k. Their current trajectory is about 30k deaths per month in a fairly straight line. Outside of dysfunctional, poor countries, nobody's doing that badly.

Right now per capita the US is 10th worst in the world but given how badly they are doing vis a v the countries worse then them right now they will likely shoot up to about 5th worst within the next month.

Only San Marino, followed by Peru Belgium and Brazil are likely to be worse off in terms of deaths per capita by the end of October.

Professor Moriarty · 22-09-2020 09:33PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I don't want to get into a Covid debate here because we probably will not agree no matter what but what I will say is this: take a look at some of the countries with higher deaths per 1m population to the USA, hardly poor or dysfunctional are they? I genuinely think Covid is not as big an election issue as people here are making it out to be.

That's not to say that it is not a serious problem, it is and I believe every death is a tragedy.

Which countries? And of those countries, how many of them were as forewarned as Trump's USA?

briany · 22-09-2020 09:42PM

Have to hand to Trump in that he knows the value of showmanship. Listening to Donie o' Sullivan on Eamon Dunphy's podcast and he was talking about the rallies - Trump's team was playing 'In the Air Tonight' over the PA as Airforce One was flying in to land, and nearly had it timed to the point that Trump hits the stage right as that famous drum pattern comes in.

hotmail.com · 22-09-2020 09:48PM

Democrats and Republicans = Americans.

They don't care about the loss of life. American culture is about every man for themselves.

eire4 · 22-09-2020 09:50PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I don't want to get into a Covid debate here because we probably will not agree no matter what but what I will say is this: take a look at some of the countries with higher deaths per 1m population to the USA, hardly poor or dysfunctional are they? I genuinely think Covid is not as big an election issue as people here are making it out to be.

That's not to say that it is not a serious problem, it is and I believe every death is a tragedy.

By the end of October the only countries that are not poor or "dysfunctional" that will have worse death tolls per capita then the US will be San Marino and Belgium that is it end of story. San Marino is a tiny country with a tiny population so really Belgium that's it and at the rate the US is projected to continue to see deaths through the end of the year as against Belgium the Americans may even overtake them too in a few months.

eire4 · 22-09-2020 09:53PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Democrats and Republicans = Americans.

They don't care about the loss of life. American culture is about every man for themselves.

Sadly I cannot disagree. That really is in general their mentality or at least the majority of them.

salmocab · 22-09-2020 10:00PM

eire4 wrote: »

Sadly I cannot disagree. That really is in general their mentality or at least the majority of them.

No it’s not at all, a minority have that attitude. Life is cheap alright but they do care. They care a lot, from the outside it might look that way because of they’re idiotic love of guns but they care about family and friends just like everyone else.

hotmail.com · 22-09-2020 10:04PM

salmocab wrote: »

No it’s not at all, a minority have that attitude. Life is cheap alright but they do care. They care a lot, from the outside it might look that way because of they’re idiotic love of guns but they care about family and friends just like everyone else.

Their unwillingness to create a welfare state and universal healthcare suggests they really don't care about anyone other than themselves.

Their history and culture backs this up.

I knew from day one that Americans, all Americans, wouldn't be bothered by the loss of life.

People who think otherwise are deluding themselves about America.

22-09-2020 10:47PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

have you actually watched any of the clips of trump speaking? rambling and incoherent are the words that spring to mind. did you watch the two town halls? biden was able to answer coherently. from trumps replies you couldn't work out what the question was.

Trump has genuine comic timing and ability to come up with zingers on the fly. He destroyed about 20 republicans one by one in 2016. He shouldn't be a good debater but he often is. Biden does not pose a threat.

22-09-2020 11:31PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Trump has genuine comic timing and ability to come up with zingers on the fly. He destroyed about 20 republicans one by one in 2016. He shouldn't be a good debater but he often is. Biden does not pose a threat.

Coming out with weird insults or name calling is not debating. Biden on the other hand has an incredibly good reputation for his ability on this front and I can't see Trump standing much of a chance. Particularly since Trump has a reputation of bullying the press for just asking questions, he basically is the antithesis of leadership.

extra gravy · 23-09-2020 12:04AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Trump has genuine comic timing and ability to come up with zingers on the fly.

The only people that think this are his poorly educated, easily amused base. The rest of us don't find his insults and crass behaviour entertaining.

relax carry on · 23-09-2020 12:17AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Trump has genuine comic timing and ability to come up with zingers on the fly. He destroyed about 20 republicans one by one in 2016. He shouldn't be a good debater but he often is. Biden does not pose a threat.

Just how many press conferences has Trump walked off in a huff because he couldn't answer basic questions? How many times has his syphilitic drug addled brain glitched while attempting to deliver any sort of coherent message? Trump is a third rate conman who is lucky his his core supporters are just dumb enough to fall for his grift. He doesn't really even have to try that hard for them. When he crashes and burns during the debates his core won't see it in that light. It will either be another glorious victory for the leader or the disaster will be down to those underhanded commie democrats giving Biden the answers.

2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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