2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Professor Moriarty

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I don't want to get into a Covid debate here because we probably will not agree no matter what but what I will say is this: take a look at some of the countries with higher deaths per 1m population to the USA, hardly poor or dysfunctional are they? I genuinely think Covid is not as big an election issue as people here are making it out to be.

That's not to say that it is not a serious problem, it is and I believe every death is a tragedy.

Which countries? And of those countries, how many of them were as forewarned as Trump's USA?

briany

Have to hand to Trump in that he knows the value of showmanship. Listening to Donie o' Sullivan on Eamon Dunphy's podcast and he was talking about the rallies - Trump's team was playing 'In the Air Tonight' over the PA as Airforce One was flying in to land, and nearly had it timed to the point that Trump hits the stage right as that famous drum pattern comes in.

hotmail.com

Democrats and Republicans = Americans.

They don't care about the loss of life. American culture is about every man for themselves.

eire4

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I don't want to get into a Covid debate here because we probably will not agree no matter what but what I will say is this: take a look at some of the countries with higher deaths per 1m population to the USA, hardly poor or dysfunctional are they? I genuinely think Covid is not as big an election issue as people here are making it out to be.

That's not to say that it is not a serious problem, it is and I believe every death is a tragedy.

By the end of October the only countries that are not poor or "dysfunctional" that will have worse death tolls per capita then the US will be San Marino and Belgium that is it end of story. San Marino is a tiny country with a tiny population so really Belgium that's it and at the rate the US is projected to continue to see deaths through the end of the year as against Belgium the Americans may even overtake them too in a few months.

eire4

hotmail.com wrote: »

Democrats and Republicans = Americans.

They don't care about the loss of life. American culture is about every man for themselves.

Sadly I cannot disagree. That really is in general their mentality or at least the majority of them.

salmocab

eire4 wrote: »

Sadly I cannot disagree. That really is in general their mentality or at least the majority of them.

No it’s not at all, a minority have that attitude. Life is cheap alright but they do care. They care a lot, from the outside it might look that way because of they’re idiotic love of guns but they care about family and friends just like everyone else.

hotmail.com

salmocab wrote: »

No it’s not at all, a minority have that attitude. Life is cheap alright but they do care. They care a lot, from the outside it might look that way because of they’re idiotic love of guns but they care about family and friends just like everyone else.

Their unwillingness to create a welfare state and universal healthcare suggests they really don't care about anyone other than themselves.

Their history and culture backs this up.

I knew from day one that Americans, all Americans, wouldn't be bothered by the loss of life.

People who think otherwise are deluding themselves about America.

ohnonotgmail

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

have you actually watched any of the clips of trump speaking? rambling and incoherent are the words that spring to mind. did you watch the two town halls? biden was able to answer coherently. from trumps replies you couldn't work out what the question was.

Trump has genuine comic timing and ability to come up with zingers on the fly. He destroyed about 20 republicans one by one in 2016. He shouldn't be a good debater but he often is. Biden does not pose a threat.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Trump has genuine comic timing and ability to come up with zingers on the fly. He destroyed about 20 republicans one by one in 2016. He shouldn't be a good debater but he often is. Biden does not pose a threat.

Coming out with weird insults or name calling is not debating. Biden on the other hand has an incredibly good reputation for his ability on this front and I can't see Trump standing much of a chance. Particularly since Trump has a reputation of bullying the press for just asking questions, he basically is the antithesis of leadership.

extra gravy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Trump has genuine comic timing and ability to come up with zingers on the fly.

The only people that think this are his poorly educated, easily amused base. The rest of us don't find his insults and crass behaviour entertaining.

relax carry on

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Trump has genuine comic timing and ability to come up with zingers on the fly. He destroyed about 20 republicans one by one in 2016. He shouldn't be a good debater but he often is. Biden does not pose a threat.

Just how many press conferences has Trump walked off in a huff because he couldn't answer basic questions? How many times has his syphilitic drug addled brain glitched while attempting to deliver any sort of coherent message? Trump is a third rate conman who is lucky his his core supporters are just dumb enough to fall for his grift. He doesn't really even have to try that hard for them. When he crashes and burns during the debates his core won't see it in that light. It will either be another glorious victory for the leader or the disaster will be down to those underhanded commie democrats giving Biden the answers.

Overheal

Why did House Dems agree to fund this government? Honest question. Just got an alert about it and frankly, I'm baffled given the politics (the nicest word to use for it) around the SCOTUS vacancy?

Tell me how

Overheal wrote: »

Why did House Dems agree to fund this government? Honest question. Just got an alert about it and frankly, I'm baffled given the politics (the nicest word to use for it) around the SCOTUS vacancy?

I'd imagine so as to not give Trump the rallying cry of 'they want to stop government' which, bizarrely, is what a lot of conservatives would want but those guys are already voting Trump.

Maybe the Dems figured it wouldn't play well with borderline voters. Maybe someone else has more insight.

biko

Joe the homewrecker

Joe Biden and his wife Jill had an affair that broke up her first marriage, her ex-husband told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.

Bill Stevenson says that their story about how the presidential candidate fell in love with Jill after a blind date is made up.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/jill-bidens-ex-husband-accuses-her-of-having-affair-with-joe-biden/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635281/Jill-Biden-cheated-husband-Joe-ex-claims.html

dwayneshintzy

DangerScouse wrote: »

Oh Joe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9GPD-0aMVQ

I'm beginning to think it may be funnier if he wins than if the Donald does again :pac: Either way America is going to be a basket case for years to come.

Debates will be epic

Fact check: Trump campaign posts another dishonestly snipped Biden quote to make him sound confused



So it's another edited video. Were you aware of that when you posted it? Did you even bother to check ?I don't hold out much hope of you replying to this based on past precedent, to be honest....

dwayneshintzy

biko wrote: »

Joe the homewrecker

Joe Biden and his wife Jill had an affair that broke up her first marriage, her ex-husband told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.

Bill Stevenson says that their story about how the presidential candidate fell in love with Jill after a blind date is made up.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/jill-bidens-ex-husband-accuses-her-of-having-affair-with-joe-biden/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635281/Jill-Biden-cheated-husband-Joe-ex-claims.html

Ignoring the fact that they've now been together for 45 years, how is this remotely relevant to the 2020 Presidential election?

Tell me how

biko wrote: »

Joe the homewrecker

Joe Biden and his wife Jill had an affair that broke up her first marriage, her ex-husband told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.

Bill Stevenson says that their story about how the presidential candidate fell in love with Jill after a blind date is made up.

According to an article in the New York Post............

What we do know beyond a doubt, Trump paid off a porn star so that she wouldn't reveal details of his infidelity while his wife was pregnant.

The same man who said the following,

Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."

Bush: "Whatever you want."

Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

Wanderer78

dwayneshintzy wrote:

Ignoring the fact that they've now been together for 45 years, how is this remotely relevant to the 2020 Presidential election?

Tell me how wrote:

What we do know beyond a doubt, Trump paid off a porn star so that she wouldn't reveal details of his infidelity while his wife was pregnant.

....Jesus have we gotten to this level already! What a rotten political system!

Timberrrrrrrr

biko wrote: »

Joe the homewrecker

Joe Biden and his wife Jill had an affair that broke up her first marriage, her ex-husband told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.

Bill Stevenson says that their story about how the presidential candidate fell in love with Jill after a blind date is made up.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/jill-bidens-ex-husband-accuses-her-of-having-affair-with-joe-biden/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635281/Jill-Biden-cheated-husband-Joe-ex-claims.html

Not even at the bottom of the barrel anymore, through the barrel and heading for the earths core.

Imagine trying to take the high ground about extra marital affairs when it comes to Trump :pac:

Kidchameleon

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Not even at the bottom of the barrel anymore, through the barrel and heading for the earths core.

Imagine trying to take the high ground about extra marital affairs when it comes to Trump :pac:

For me personally, I think this is a good thing for Joe. It makes him look more alpha & this will appeal to some voters. I wouldn't be surprised if this story originated from the Biden campaign itself.

francois

biko wrote: »

Joe the homewrecker

Joe Biden and his wife Jill had an affair that broke up her first marriage, her ex-husband told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview.

Bill Stevenson says that their story about how the presidential candidate fell in love with Jill after a blind date is made up.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/jill-bidens-ex-husband-accuses-her-of-having-affair-with-joe-biden/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635281/Jill-Biden-cheated-husband-Joe-ex-claims.html

You really don't want to go there

Brian?

Kidchameleon wrote: »

For me personally, I think this is a good thing for Joe. It makes him look more alpha & this will appeal to some voters. I wouldn't be surprised if this story originated from the Biden campaign itself.

The type of voter this will appeal to are already 100% behind Trump.

Trump the alpha male who can barely walk down a ramp.

Brian?

Kidchameleon wrote: »

For me personally, I think this is a good thing for Joe. It makes him look more alpha & this will appeal to some voters. I wouldn't be surprised if this story originated from the Biden campaign itself.

The type of voter this will appeal to are already 100% behind Trump.

Trump the alpha male who can barely walk down a ramp.

Cody montana

Asked why he hasn't said anything about the 200,000 Americans who have died due to the coronavirus, Trump turns away from the reporter, without answering, and says, "Anybody else?"

Disgusting

Wanderer78

Cody montana wrote: »

Asked why he hasn't said anything about the 200,000 Americans who have died due to the coronavirus, Trump turns away from the reporter, without answering, and says, "Anybody else?"

Disgusting

shur hes an arsehole

Cody montana

Wanderer78 wrote: »

shur hes an arsehole

I wonder how he’ll respond in the debates?
He can’t ignore the questions.

Wanderer78

Cody montana wrote: »

I wonder how he’ll respond in the debates?
He can’t ignore the questions.

oh he probably will, he ll try explain how great he is, and has been over the last 4 years

francois

Cody montana wrote: »

I wonder how he’ll respond in the debates?
He can’t ignore the questions.

He'll say he did great because it wasn't 2 million, and the seals will clap it up

duploelabs

Kidchameleon wrote: »

For me personally, I think this is a good thing for Joe. It makes him look more alpha & this will appeal to some voters. I wouldn't be surprised if this story originated from the Biden campaign itself.

Does faking an injury so he can dodge the draft make him more alpha male too?

Pa ElGrande

Battle of the septuagenarians thread spills on to the street.


https://twitter.com/BrionMcClanahan/status/1308467251075526657