Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

suicide_circus · 22-09-2020 08:02AM

Yeah there was some doctor in Morning Ireland on my drive in and true to form, the line kept dropping. It would be very rare that i'd be on on a call and it would be breaking up or dropping altogether but in RTE its a daily occurrence.

Elmo · 22-09-2020 08:03AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

It's been rather odd to say the least-we know, with Fair City, the older members of the cast, as well as those with conditions like Asthma or other lung disorders, are not on set.

So while they're not getting paid their regular fee, RTe should be saving money, somewhat.

Instead, I've seen more new faces on RTE than on other channels. Even Virgin Media haven't taken on as many faces as RTE.

They've even 'revived' some of the children's television, and hired new crews on that too. (Martin's Shed, it's called-I think. I've only seen the ads).

The unfortunate thing is, they probably 'have' made cutbacks, behind the scenes. But the wages of the crew behind the scenes are miniscule compared to folks in front of the camera. So technically, there's no cutbacks.

Not too sure. Martin’s Shed is that only 5 mins long and it was the only on the air for August.

suicide_circus · 22-09-2020 08:06AM

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

They are really taking the piss with the RTE 'we tell truth' stuff, 'trust RTE for your news' agenda. There's a bang of a PR company being employed there to promote this sh!t.

You want to tell us the truth RTE?

*Tell us the salaries/fees of everyone in RTE.
*Tell us how Noel Kelly management has managed to get such a hold of your staff/contractors.
*Send the RTE investigates crew into Rathkeale and find out what is really going on there.

Just looking for a bit of truth there RTE.

Truth matters.

Their Ministry of Truth campaign is truly Orwellian.

RabbleRouser2k · 22-09-2020 08:51AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Apart from fixing the RTE Player (which seems to me to be worse than ever), could one of the tech heads in RTE please solve the endless drop outs from contributors who are on the phone. I’m assuming that only Joe has the “bad line” switch installed, maybe a mischievous mouse is in that studio, playing with it? Well, it’s a suggestion.....

Wouldn't surprise me if there was a rodent problem at the site. Folks I know who used to work at RTE, especially at their last HQ, said there's a serious issue with rodents at the RTE Dept.
(And no, this is not a joke aimed at the staff of RTE, I mean actual mice and rats).

Another issue was a leaky roof. Everytime it rained, buckets were swiftly placed around the studio.

Elmo · 22-09-2020 11:24AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Wouldn't surprise me if there was a rodent problem at the site. Folks I know who used to work at RTE, especially at their last HQ, said there's a serious issue with rodents at the RTE Dept.
(And no, this is not a joke aimed at the staff of RTE, I mean actual mice and rats).

Another issue was a leaky roof. Everytime it rained, buckets were swiftly placed around the studio.

Wouldn't be surprised RTÉ have failed to maintain their leafy D4 offices and studios, the Radio studio looks like its been bombed, I haven't seen such a messy office before, with blinds mis-drawn or not working or on the ground, complete pigsty.

rightmove · 22-09-2020 11:49AM

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/cash-strapped-rte-will-spend-450k-to-discover-what-we-think-of-them-39551942.html

"Whoever secures the contract will measure the "general impression of RTÉ as an organisation", its public trust, respect for diversity and "value for money"

perhaps respect for merit might be better

suicide_circus · 22-09-2020 11:53AM

I can't imagine the polling company hired by RTE will be too scathing of RTE.

suicide_circus · 22-09-2020 11:54AM

rightmove wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/cash-strapped-rte-will-spend-450k-to-discover-what-we-think-of-them-39551942.html

"Whoever secures the contract will measure the "general impression of RTas an organisation", its public trust, respect for diversity and "value for money"

perhaps respect for merit might be better

Diversity of bloodlines would be a good start

Godeatsboogers · 22-09-2020 12:06PM

Why cant they be honest about it and call it what it is, a t.v tax. Is the V.A.T on TVs not enough money out of our pockets.

TomTomTim · 22-09-2020 01:26PM

rightmove wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/cash-strapped-rte-will-spend-450k-to-discover-what-we-think-of-them-39551942.html

"Whoever secures the contract will measure the "general impression of RTÉ as an organisation", its public trust, respect for diversity and "value for money"

perhaps respect for merit might be better

As someone currently searching for a new job, the amount of companies who mention stuff about diversity and inclusion before anything else is sickening. It has little to nothing to do with ones ability to preform, yet it's front and center for many companies.

Elmo · 22-09-2020 03:17PM

Godeatsboogers wrote: »

Why cant they be honest about it and call it what it is, a t.v tax. Is the V.A.T on TVs not enough money out of our pockets.

You possibly wouldn't sell enough TV's for it to be enough. The Tax should be taken from your subscriptions. A 6% tax on all broadband, mobile phones and telephony would get you to 200m pa, you might even reduce it down to 2% - 3% if you add all media subscriptions (netflix, amazon prime etc). And also include business it could be 1% of the VAT that is applied. (no refund to businesses on this 1%)

The J Stands for Jay · 22-09-2020 03:30PM

Elmo wrote: »

You possibly wouldn't sell enough TV's for it to be enough. The Tax should be taken from your subscriptions. A 6% tax on all broadband, mobile phones and telephony would get you to 200m pa, you might even reduce it down to 2% - 3% if you add all media subscriptions (netflix, amazon prime etc). And also include business it could be 1% of the VAT that is applied. (no refund to businesses on this 1%)

What do broadband and phones have to do with rte? This tax should be on subscriptions to services that carry rte services (Sky, Virgin TV, eir TV, etc.). Netflix, Amazon Prime and the likes don't carry rte services, and I would argue that people who pay these subs don't consume rte output.

Elmo · 22-09-2020 03:47PM

McGaggs wrote: »

What do broadband and phones have to do with rte? This tax should be on subscriptions to services that carry rte services (Sky, Virgin TV, eir TV, etc.). Netflix, Amazon Prime and the likes don't carry rte services, and I would argue that people who pay these subs don't consume rte output.

I am suggesting that you put it on Three's subs also even though they don't provide a TV or content package. You put the tax across all telecomunications companies across both retail and business bills, that it comes from VAT on those products.

It would pay for both RTÉ, TG4 and the NCO.

There's a large idea to provide better funding to content.

Break RTÉ into 5 parts
- RTÉ - RTÉ ONE, RTE ONE +1, RADIO 1, RTE GOLD, RTE RADIO ONE EXTRA, LYRIC FM, RTÉ NEWS NOW
- NTR - RTÉ TWO, RTÉ2 +1, 2FM, 2XM, PULSE
- TnaG - TG4, RnaG, CnaG's radio services, Irish Film Board Channel, RTÉjr, Cula4
- Networks and Studio - Donnybrook campus and 2RN
- National Music Groups - merged with the NCH.

RTÉ to be the national public service broadcaster
NTR to be run commercially, no funding, sold if possible
TnaG to be the national Irish Language, Children's and Film Broadcaster

RTÉ and TnaG would support their new output both would get the same amount of funding from the license fee, with no exchequer funding going to TG4 (allowing increase with film (not all in Irish/ majority in English) and Children's programming to gain €20 million each in funding, 40m~ to Irish language content, including radio)

Sound and Vision fund to be run by the IFB 7.5% of the licence fee
National Music Groups and NCH also get 7.5%

Better services for all.

The J Stands for Jay · 22-09-2020 03:52PM

A person who has the most expensive broadband package, subscribes to Amazon, Netflix, disney and Spotify, and doesn't consume any rte media would pay more than someone who only stops watching rte 1 when they get in their car and put on radio 1? Doesn't sound like a fair tax.

jippo nolan · 22-09-2020 03:58PM

I had a workmate who worked on the construction of the RTÉ studios as an apprentice in the early sixties,
All the office furniture was handcrafted mahogany & oak.
One of the craftsmen installing the furniture was offered a full time job maintaining the furniture as it was prone to swelling & shrinking due to the air conditioning.
One of his favourite cries on entering an office was to enquire who had the sticky drawers,
He didn’t last too long!

Elmo · 22-09-2020 04:05PM

McGaggs wrote: »

A person who has the most expensive broadband package, subscribes to Amazon, Netflix, disney and Spotify, and doesn't consume any rte media would pay more than someone who only stops watching rte 1 when they get in their car and put on radio 1? Doesn't sound like a fair tax.

A person with all of that can afford to pay 1% of their VAT they currently pay. I am not increasing the VAT, I am sectioning of some of the VAT to the license, which would not be spend on RTÉ alone.

Everyone pays VAT it could be consider the most unfair tax.

RabbleRouser2k · 22-09-2020 09:07PM

TomTomTim wrote: »

As someone currently searching for a new job, the amount of companies who mention stuff about diversity and inclusion before anything else is sickening. It has little to nothing to do with ones ability to preform, yet it's front and center for many companies.

It's Tokenism, but for the majority of companies, it's 'proof' they're pushing for diversity. (It means nothing-like the whole 'equal pay' thing, such as when a company comes out with their 'we promote equal pay'. There are laws requiring equal pay. Almost every country has equal pay acts. It's meaningless to state that.)

In reality, it's best person for the job. Companies don't want to lose money, they need someone with skill and talent.

FionnK86 · 23-09-2020 12:29PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Apart from fixing the RTE Player (which seems to me to be worse than ever).

This. I wrote to them last week complaining that it's hard to navigate to a specific programme, at a specific time. I cited the BBC iPlayer's 'TV guide' tab as a good example.

Got a reply asking what specific programme I wanted to view, so I replied with video showing News at one as an example and how it was hard to get to this show quickly.

They replied saying I'd been able to view News at one in the video, so didn't know what my issue was and to clear my cache If I'd further issues. :rolleyes:

Kivaro · 23-09-2020 12:37PM

FionnK86 wrote: »

.....

They replied saying I'd been able to view News at one in the video, so didn't know what my issue was and to clear my cache If I'd further issues. :rolleyes:

There is zero quality control there.

Then again, RTE are pretty good at clearing our cash ........

steddyeddy · 24-09-2020 02:44PM

TomTomTim wrote: »

As someone currently searching for a new job, the amount of companies who mention stuff about diversity and inclusion before anything else is sickening. It has little to nothing to do with ones ability to preform, yet it's front and center for many companies.

Well as previously mentioned RTE are in need of diversifying the their recruitment pool away from its current status of incest.

elperello · 24-09-2020 03:01PM

Elmo wrote: »

I am suggesting that you put it on Three's subs also even though they don't provide a TV or content package. You put the tax across all telecomunications companies across both retail and business bills, that it comes from VAT on those products.

It would pay for both RTÉ, TG4 and the NCO.

There's a large idea to provide better funding to content.

Break RTÉ into 5 parts
- RTÉ - RTÉ ONE, RTE ONE +1, RADIO 1, RTE GOLD, RTE RADIO ONE EXTRA, LYRIC FM, RTÉ NEWS NOW
- NTR - RTÉ TWO, RTÉ2 +1, 2FM, 2XM, PULSE
- TnaG - TG4, RnaG, CnaG's radio services, Irish Film Board Channel, RTÉjr, Cula4
- Networks and Studio - Donnybrook campus and 2RN
- National Music Groups - merged with the NCH.

RTÉ to be the national public service broadcaster
NTR to be run commercially, no funding, sold if possible
TnaG to be the national Irish Language, Children's and Film Broadcaster

RTÉ and TnaG would support their new output both would get the same amount of funding from the license fee, with no exchequer funding going to TG4 (allowing increase with film (not all in Irish/ majority in English) and Children's programming to gain €20 million each in funding, 40m~ to Irish language content, including radio)

Sound and Vision fund to be run by the IFB 7.5% of the licence fee
National Music Groups and NCH also get 7.5%

Better services for all.

Interesting proposals for restructuring there, would you consider funding them from direct taxation ?

That way no collection costs and no evasion.

Elmo · 24-09-2020 05:00PM

elperello wrote: »

Interesting proposals for restructuring there, would you consider funding them from direct taxation ?

That way no collection costs and no evasion.

No there is already too much political interference with the license fee The BAI and ComReg should set the license fee. Though I am suggesting it comes from VAT on communications/media consumption.

Currently the Minister for Media can set the licence fee, can reduce exchequre funding to TG4 and then give it some of the licence fee to avoid a cut and set the number of minutes of ads on public service broadcasters, and decide on proposed services that RTÉ/TG4 can have. (All have some oversight.).

elperello · 24-09-2020 11:04PM

Elmo wrote: »

No there is already too much political interference with the license fee The BAI and ComReg should set the license fee. Though I am suggesting it comes from VAT on communications/media consumption.

Currently the Minister for Media can set the licence fee, can reduce exchequre funding to TG4 and then give it some of the licence fee to avoid a cut and set the number of minutes of ads on public service broadcasters, and decide on proposed services that RTÉ/TG4 can have. (All have some oversight.).

Perhaps with proper checks and balances put in place to prevent political interference general taxation funding would be a more versatile method.

How much is raised by VAT on communications/media consumption?

Could it be at risk by future changes in the structure of the industry?

Kivaro · 25-09-2020 12:15AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well as previously mentioned RTE are in need of diversifying the their recruitment pool away from its current status of incest.

RTE, at this point of time (in the middle of a worldwide pandemic), is a very dangerous institution whose focus will solely be for their own self-preservation, and not on the people who are paying their wages.

They have reached the stage of un-trustworthiness (my word) and unreliability as a source for any reasonable news event. They shape all of their reports to suit their paymasters. (Hint: not the license/tax payer).

Elmo · 25-09-2020 09:57AM

elperello wrote: »

Perhaps with proper checks and balances put in place to prevent political interference general taxation funding would be a more versatile method.

How much is raised by VAT on communications/media consumption?

Could it be at risk by future changes in the structure of the industry?

based on comregs quarterly reports 600m is earned, so up 550m pa???

Checks and balances from the BAI.

Before ye start

I have no interest in giving RTÉ or any other public service broadcaster all of that 550m, not even half of it.

steddyeddy · 25-09-2020 02:50PM

Kivaro wrote: »

RTE, at this point of time (in the middle of a worldwide pandemic), is a very dangerous institution whose focus will solely be for their own self-preservation, and not on the people who are paying their wages.

They have reached the stage of un-trustworthiness (my word) and unreliability as a source for any reasonable news event. They shape all of their reports to suit their paymasters. (Hint: not the license/tax payer).

I remember Ryan Tubridy interviewing the son of Tom Gilmartin, a businessman who had been threatened and asked for bribes by Fianna Fáil politicians. You could see Ryan was uncomfortable questioning the man and didn't really probe deep into the huge allegations being made. Then I remembered that Tubridy is related to several Fianna Fáil politicians. How can he be objective when his relatives likely benefited from corruption?

RabbleRouser2k · 25-09-2020 03:25PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I remember Ryan Tubridy interviewing the son of Tom Gilmartin, a businessman who had been threatened and asked for bribes by Fianna Fáil politicians. You could see Ryan was uncomfortable questioning the man and didn't really probe deep into the huge allegations being made. Then I remembered that Tubridy is related to several Fianna Fáil politicians. How can he be objective when his relatives likely benefited from corruption?

Tubridy's notoriously uncomfortable when questioning anyone of serious credibility (hence why we see so many Z listers on the show now).

When he did get to interview someone of note (Sean Spicer, Trump's former spokesperson) it seemed like an easy, 'Got 'im!' kind of interview.

Instead, folks were like 'dang, Spicer's kind of a nice guy'... but that particular episode turned into a trainwreck. We had the infamous 'bin' segment...

And when he interviewed Liam Neeson (who has admitted he hates doing interview) and managed to turn him into a villain of the week over comments he made.

Elmo · 25-09-2020 04:03PM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Tubridy's notoriously uncomfortable when questioning anyone of serious credibility (hence why we see so many Z listers on the show now).

When he did get to interview someone of note (Sean Spicer, Trump's former spokesperson) it seemed like an easy, 'Got 'im!' kind of interview.

Instead, folks were like 'dang, Spicer's kind of a nice guy'... but that particular episode turned into a trainwreck. We had the infamous 'bin' segment...

And when he interviewed Liam Neeson (who has admitted he hates doing interview) and managed to turn him into a villain of the week over comments he made.

Tub's is bored has been for the last ten years, he's no interest in anything but his pay cheque, like everyone else!

RabbleRouser2k · 25-09-2020 04:32PM

Elmo wrote: »

Tub's is bored has been for the last ten years, he's no interest in anything but his pay cheque, like everyone else!

He handled the Majella Moynihan interview rather well. It needed sensitivity, he needed to handle that interview with care, and he did so.
So I give him props for that.

It also highlighted the fact that he can do interviews, and he can be professional. He just doesn't want to.

He sort of approaches things as 'I'm the most intelligent person in the room'... which he clearly isn't.

If you compare him to Gay Byrne, or Tommy Tiernan, they genuinely listen to their interivewees.
And they keep that energy for the whole show.

I swear, Tommy Tiernan's interview with Nathan Carter was like something Gay Byrne would have done in his heyday.

steddyeddy · 25-09-2020 04:39PM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

He handled the Majella Moynihan interview rather well. It needed sensitivity, he needed to handle that interview with care, and he did so.
So I give him props for that.

It also highlighted the fact that he can do interviews, and he can be professional. He just doesn't want to.

He sort of approaches things as 'I'm the most intelligent person in the room'... which he clearly isn't.

If you compare him to Gay Byrne, or Tommy Tiernan, they genuinely listen to their interivewees.
And they keep that energy for the whole show.

I swear, Tommy Tiernan's interview with Nathan Carter was like something Gay Byrne would have done in his heyday.

His brother is a consultant in St.Vincent's hospital. I'm sure he feels he need to prove himself in this regard.

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