Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

Wolf359f · 21-09-2020 01:41AM

normanoffside wrote: »

He recommended it as part of NPHET, certainly did nothing to stop it.

Despite what people think NPHET have zero power/control, they advise, they cant actually take actions.

I'm not defending NPHET, but I hate when people think NPHET are calling the shots and actually have the power to make the changes.

s1ippy · 21-09-2020 02:22AM

Tbf as CMO and NPHET representative, Tony said it was all good in the hood as regards visiting nursing homes and there was a case in one later that week and then the whole situation snowballed. So I would say that his decision and inaction is the most visible cause of the spread in nursing homes.

spookwoman · 21-09-2020 02:59AM

s1ippy wrote: »

Tbf as CMO and NPHET representative, Tony said it was all good in the hood as regards visiting nursing homes and there was a case in one later that week and then the whole situation snowballed. So I would say that his decision and inaction is the most visible cause of the spread in nursing homes.

The nursing homes brought in the restrictions first and he said not necessary.

On March 4, Nursing Homes Ireland announced a blanket ban on visitors to narrow the possibilities of infection. Six days later, the chief medical officer Tony Holohan said such a ban was “unnecessary” at that point.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-30994257.html

I will never forget him trying to stop the cervical smear review and wrote a quite nasty letter to one of the women who is dying.

MOR316 · 21-09-2020 03:07AM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

U2 fans are the biggest bunch of aul wans. There's no chance there was any heroin at a u2 gig. Ever.

Not in 05.

I saw many people between 13 and 21 attend those gigs

mirrorwall14 · 21-09-2020 05:27AM

As a Dublin reg car Not living in Dublin we were down west this weekend. Plenty of commuters in D reg’s I’d say who aren’t in lockdown

caveat emptor · 21-09-2020 06:47AM

CDC catching up regarding flights.
https://twitter.com/alinouriphd/status/1307764546556354561?s=21

Funsterdelux · 21-09-2020 06:52AM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

U2 fans are the biggest bunch of aul wans. There's no chance there was any heroin at a u2 gig. Ever.

Maybe it was a euthanise pact. I know I would if i were at a U2 gig.

mandrake04 · 21-09-2020 07:02AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

CDC catching up regarding flights.
https://twitter.com/alinouriphd/status/1307764546556354561?s=21

Surely this is an impossibility the HEPA filters is like Kryptonite to the virus, boom!!! it sucks it right out of your filthy infected body.

igCorcaigh · 21-09-2020 07:05AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Despite what people think NPHET have zero power/control, they advise, they cant actually take actions.

I'm not defending NPHET, but I hate when people think NPHET are calling the shots and actually have the power to make the changes.

Agreed, although I hate when some people in the government point to them as a way of deflecting blame. Very poor leadership.

21-09-2020 07:32AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

CDC catching up regarding flights.
https://twitter.com/alinouriphd/status/1307764546556354561?s=21

That's not very many contacts for flights - only 6 per infected person

21-09-2020 07:33AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

CDC catching up regarding flights.
https://twitter.com/alinouriphd/status/1307764546556354561?s=21

mandrake04 wrote: »

Surely this is an impossibility the HEPA filters is like Kryptonite to the virus, boom!!! it sucks it right out of your filthy infected body.

Worth reading the article not the headline:

But though the agency says some of those travelers subsequently fell ill, in the face of incomplete contact tracing information and a virus that incubates over several days, it has not been able to confirm a case of transmission on a plane.

lawred2 · 21-09-2020 07:33AM

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

As a Dublin reg car Not living in Dublin we were down west this weekend. Plenty of commuters in D reg’s I’d say who aren’t in lockdown

But Dublin isn't in lockdown

mirrorwall14 · 21-09-2020 07:35AM

lawred2 wrote: »

But Dublin isn't in lockdown

I’m referencing a poster giving out about seeing Dublin reg cars elsewhere. There is request not to travel for Dubliners

Peter Flynt · 21-09-2020 07:43AM

lawred2 wrote: »

But Dublin isn't in lockdown

It's in lockdown lite.

Peter Flynt · 21-09-2020 07:44AM

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

I’m referencing a poster giving out about seeing Dublin reg cars elsewhere. There is request not to travel for Dubliners

Phoenix Park is empty of cars this morning.

Only those told to be at work are going.

GooglePlus · 21-09-2020 07:44AM

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

I’m referencing a poster giving out about seeing Dublin reg cars elsewhere. There is request not to travel for Dubliners

D car registration is fairly common outside of Dublin.

Boggles · 21-09-2020 07:51AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Going by the ground when they left yes it was covered in needles, It was the Vertigo tour in 2005.

It's the real reason they wouldn't let the Garth Brooks concerts go ahead, smack heads everyone of them.

True story.

Eod100 · 21-09-2020 07:54AM

Looks like HSE sourcing more tests from Germany. Only up to 2000 extra a day so not huge. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/struggling-hse-agrees-deal-with-german-lab-to-boost-covid-19-testing-capacity-1.4359975?mode=amp&localLinksEnabled=false&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Struggling+HSE+agrees+deal+with+German+lab+to+boost+Covid-19+testing+capacity&utm_campaign=morning_briefing_digest

John O.Groats · 21-09-2020 08:01AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I was at a concert in croke park a good few years ago, held on for a few minutes to let the crowd disperse all around us was covered in needles.
I'm happy to see young folk taking laughing gas rather than heroin. Yea I know it's against public health advice before you go off on one.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Going by the ground when they left yes it was covered in needles, It was the Vertigo tour in 2005.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Me neither but that's what was on the ground close to where we all were. I remember it clearly, it was one of those jesus christ moments. I didn't see anyone shooting up but must have been a gang of them.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I'm not making it up lads...why would I make up something like that, I go to plenty of gigs, festivals etc and I've never seen anything like it. That was the one and only time I've seen that happen. Maybe there was something else in them but I can't think what else comes in needles besides some types of smoke but there's no way they were doing that either.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It was a lot, not just one or two, it was a few meters from where we were standing during the gig. Maybe it was something else in them or someone dropped a box. It hasn't crossed my mind in 15yrs until that picture of all the nox on the ground.

Are you sure you weren`t on something yourself at the gig and hallucinated all this crap about seeing needles?

SEPT 23 1989 · 21-09-2020 08:05AM

U2 in Croke Park in 87 I could believe

CiarraiManc · 21-09-2020 08:07AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

My friends wife is a financial controller in a nursing home. They had no cases until a patient was transferred from a public hospital guess what happened. Anecdotal I know.

Does your friend have two wives as well?

Get Real · 21-09-2020 08:16AM

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

As a Dublin reg car Not living in Dublin we were down west this weekend. Plenty of commuters in D reg’s I’d say who aren’t in lockdown

And those D reg cars were probably saying the same about your D reg car...

Loads of D regs outside of Dublin belonging to people who live outside of Dublin.

lawred2 · 21-09-2020 08:18AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I was at a concert in croke park a good few years ago, held on for a few minutes to let the crowd disperse all around us was covered in needles.
I'm happy to see young folk taking laughing gas rather than heroin. Yea I know it's against public health advice before you go off on one.

That didn't happen anyway

caveat emptor · 21-09-2020 08:34AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Worth reading the article not the headline:

Indeed.....

An analysis by the International Air Transport Association published in August identified four cases of possible transmission on aircraft. Among them was a March 2 flight from Britain to Vietnam on which one symptomatic passenger is likely to have transmitted the virus to 15 other people, according to a study published Friday in the CDC journal. Most of them were sitting close to the symptomatic passenger in business class, but people elsewhere on the plane also tested positive.

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1307764551832793093?s=20

caveat emptor · 21-09-2020 08:38AM

CDC have been busy.....
Finally.

https://twitter.com/albertoangelo17/status/1307922276986257410?s=21

Funsterdelux · 21-09-2020 09:04AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

CDC have been busy.....
Finally.

https://twitter.com/albertoangelo17/status/1307922276986257410?s=21

CDC How it spreads

Through respiratory droplets or small particles, such as those in aerosols, produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, sings, talks, or breathes.
These particles can be inhaled into the nose, mouth, airways, and lungs and cause infection. This is thought to be the main way the virus spreads.

drunkmonkey · 21-09-2020 09:07AM

lawred2 wrote: »

That didn't happen anyway

When we look back in another 15yrs at the Guards breaking up a rave in the first 48hrs of Lockdown II and you tell people the ground was littered with laughing gas i'm sure a few won't believe it either.

Drumpot · 21-09-2020 09:08AM

mandrake04 wrote: »

Surely this is an impossibility the HEPA filters is like Kryptonite to the virus, boom!!! it sucks it right out of your filthy infected body.

I have a client who sometimes flies commercial planes in his spare time. He actually thinks the COVID stuff was being blown out of proportion when I was last talking to him in the summer (before it kicked off where he lives in USA). But he’s always maintained the filtration system on planes isn’t worth crap against this virus.

It’s like the schools, only worse as far as I’m concerned. The problem with this sort of thing for me is that there’s been plenty of time to prove one way or another how safe planes are but there’s been very little desire to do so. That says to me they don’t want to know or they know and don’t want the results to get out. There are elements like this and schools etc that make trusting authorities that bit harder. I’d prefer honesty and trusting people to make their own decisions.

Happydays2020 · 21-09-2020 09:09AM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

CDC How it spreads

Is this new?

froog · 21-09-2020 09:13AM

Nice bit of comic relief with the U2 junky stories.

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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