Second hand tractors are gone expensive

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Problem with getting someone to check out a tractor is that unless you are capable of spotting a good yoke it could take 2-3 checking overs at even 150/ tractor it starts to add up.

When you say a small handy tractor what are you thinking of budget wise, 2WD/4WD and how small a MF35 or a MF90 either could be considered a small tractor.
Not for you but I just spotted this on DD I taught for a stockman's tractor on a 50-100 are farm and if you had anything to trade in it not bad, it would be around 50K with a loader

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-same-dorado-90-natural/24553274

Hi Bass...

Have a 135 - and I don’t really want to trade it, as it’s more an heirloom at this stage, and I’m kinda fond of it

When I say handy, I mean a bit bigger than the 135 and a good cab...
I only feed a few bales a year, but tis awkward enough with the 135...
After that it’s a small bit of spraying, fertilser, topping - to be honest, the 135 manages these away good enough...

The big issue is the $$$

Really - I am only hobby farming, so spending 7k - 10k on a tractor is as much as I could justify - and tis even difficult enough to do that...

A big reason for getting a half decent tractor is so the kids can come out with me...
At the minute, they can’t - cos if I need to do anything with the tractor, that rules them out... (the 135 just isn’t safe enough)

So - I was half looking at a gator as well - as this would be better for taking people. The 135 would do me away for another while if I was to get a gator...

Open to all suggestions...

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Hi Bass...

Have a 135 - and I don’t really want to trade it, as it’s more an heirloom at this stage, and I’m kinda fond of it

When I say handy, I mean a bit bigger than the 135 and a good cab...
I only feed a few bales a year, but tis awkward enough with the 135...
After that it’s a small bit of spraying, fertilser, topping - to be honest, the 135 manages these away good enough...

The big issue is the $$$

Really - I am only hobby farming, so spending 7k - 10k on a tractor is as much as I could justify - and tis even difficult enough to do that...

A big reason for getting a half decent tractor is so the kids can come out with me...
At the minute, they can’t - cos if I need to do anything with the tractor, that rules them out... (the 135 just isn’t safe enough)

So - I was half looking at a gator as well - as this would be better for taking people. The 135 would do me away for another while if I was to get a gator...

Open to all suggestions...

Theres a few fiat 88-94 tractors with loaders on done deal very clean and will go up in value I reckon as the other ones seem to be like hens teeth atm

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Hi Bass...

Have a 135 - and I don’t really want to trade it, as it’s more an heirloom at this stage, and I’m kinda fond of it

When I say handy, I mean a bit bigger than the 135 and a good cab...
I only feed a few bales a year, but tis awkward enough with the 135...
After that it’s a small bit of spraying, fertilser, topping - to be honest, the 135 manages these away good enough...

The big issue is the $$$

Really - I am only hobby farming, so spending 7k - 10k on a tractor is as much as I could justify - and tis even difficult enough to do that...

A big reason for getting a half decent tractor is so the kids can come out with me...
At the minute, they can’t - cos if I need to do anything with the tractor, that rules them out... (the 135 just isn’t safe enough)

So - I was half looking at a gator as well - as this would be better for taking people. The 135 would do me away for another while if I was to get a gator...

Open to all suggestions...

I'm not sure any of the tractors in the 10k bracket would have good passenger seats? Maybe I'm wrong but even the newer tractors the passenger seat is fairly small too. I bought a ford 6640 2wd no loader last year for 10.5k which I thought was great value but it just has a depression beside the driver seat for passengers.

I wouldn't rule out the side by side atv thought.
This is my Quad Truck. 4wd hi lo range with atv wheels and tyres. Deck big enough for a 6ft stake and your round bale of hay or straw.





I couldn't tell you what they are now but the above was bought for 5.5k all in a few years ago. I know of one other person with one who contacted me for a recommendation on the machine and he's raving about his.

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I have a MCCormick CX 90 with an FL 60 loader. It more than adequate to do what I am doing finishing 60 cattle per year. If your slurry was contracted it would do most livestock farms. If you are making dry silage it will manage away two bales. I have a two wheel drive as well and we handle the bales in a few hours.

You'd probably agree that your CX90 would be towards the lighter end of what would be considered safe/comfortable for loader work. The tractor in that link is probably half the size and weight of your tractor. It's only got a 2.9 litre engine, and 28 inch rear wheels. It's only designed for utility work.

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

No - I have a 135 already, and will be keeping it...

The JD, at 90hp is too big for my needs...

The td5010 is a perfect size for me - but it’s way beyond my budget - I appreciate it might do me for 40 years. But I just don’t have the cash for such a purchase...

This is what I was looking at - which is why I was asking about how to get a lad to check a machine in the north

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/david-brown-1290-4wd/25793012

Just a word of warning regarding ads in the North...Most prices listed are plus VAT. Although, the one in that link might be the full price, as it seems to be from a private seller.

hopeso wrote: »

Power is the last thing you need to look at for safe/comfortable loader work. Physical weight and overall size of the tractor is more important. Although the tractor in the link is putting out 88hp, it's only got a 2.9 litre engine, and running on 28 inch rear wheels. Basically, it's a very compact, lightweight tractor that is aimed at light work.

It has a hydraulic system good enough for a 3000kg rear lift capacity.

So even though it's a pretty compact package it'd be well able to work a bale of silage on a loader with one on the back while drawing in a scatter of bales.

hopeso wrote: »

Off you go, then..... :eek::eek::eek::D

I personally wouldn't be going next nor near one but I'm simply stating one of them would do as a stockmans tractor for tipping about with a few bales and doing a bit of topping/fert.

selectamatic wrote: »

I personally wouldn't be going next nor near one but I'm simply stating one of them would do as a stockmans tractor for tipping about with a few bales and doing a bit of topping/fert.

It weighs around 3 ton, and is barely 6 foot wide. I seriously doubt if that's capable of handling two silage bales, let alone safe to do so.....

https://www.same-tractors.com/en-eu/tractors/open-field/2674-dorado-natural

hopeso wrote: »

It weighs around 3 ton, and is barely 6 foot wide. I seriously doubt if that's capable of handling two silage bales, let alone safe to do so.....

https://www.same-tractors.com/en-eu/tractors/open-field/2674-dorado-natural

Thats pretty similar dimensions to many 4wd 80hp tractors from the 80s.

It would be capable of handling 2 bales.

Anyone know if refurbishing a machine would be worth it? I know CAT and volvo and the like over it for quarry or construction machines which are generally much larger anyone here of it being done for agri machines at a viable cost?

Mooooo wrote: »

7840 here needs 450kgs on the weight stack put front to manage 2 fusion bales on the double handler anyway or she be looking at the sky

Ya just 2 bales on the back of most yokes requires counter balancing. 2 on the back and one on a front loader tends to be a good balanced load for a big tractor.

But for the small same tractor above we were just discussing whether it'd handle one bale on the back and one on a front loader if fitted.

Gillespy wrote: »

That's what I am thinking. Start with a fairly sound tractor, do the engine, new water pump, radiator, brakes, clutches, sort out hitch, linkage wear, new seat and tidy interior as needed, full respray. €1,000 per cylinder to do the engine properly is what a lad told me. Whatever all that will cost won't buy you much of a tractor.

Dont forget tyres. I'd say you won't have much change off €40k if ya have to buy the tractor to start with. I put a new air seat into a tractor here recently. €650 plus VAT for a Sears air seat, the one that fits the New Holland TM series. Restoration is saucy.