How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

SusanC10 · 15-09-2020 04:08PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

Someone said to me at lunch today there are 90 schools where cases have been detected...? Does anyone know if that’s true? I’ve not seen it in any news reports.

A friend who is trying to keep track has said 98 today.

deliege · 15-09-2020 04:13PM

deliege wrote: »

Very little news reports about this - it's only some citizens that try to keep count of schools with cases. Here's one (she only includes schools in her counts when verified):

https://twitter.com/schools_19

Note that increase in number of kids (5 to 14 yrs old) detected as Covid-positive between 1st and 12th of September is 170 ( looking at daily reports here: https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/ ).

So I'd venture that number of schools affected is probably more than 90 (of course there may be siblings amongst these 170, of course some might be homeschooled, but this is probably more than counterbalanced by the 14 to 18yrs old that have been lumped with the 19-25yrs olds, a bracket that sees a strong day-on-day increase too!)

PowerToWait · 15-09-2020 04:21PM

deliege wrote: »

Very little news reports about this - it's only some citizens that try to keep count of schools with cases. Here's one (she only includes schools in her counts when verified):

https://twitter.com/schools_19

Thanks for that. That amount of schools with cases couldn’t be great for slowing the spread. And it seems they said even at stage 5 restrictions they will not close schools?

Teachers added to ‘frontline’ workers list, fair play!

SusanC10 · 15-09-2020 04:26PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

Thanks for that. That amount of schools with cases couldn’t be great for slowing the spread. And it seems they said even at stage 5 restrictions they will not close schools?

Personally, we will have removed our Kids anyway before we get near Level 5.

deliege · 15-09-2020 04:28PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

Thanks for that. That amount of schools with cases couldn’t be great for slowing the spread. And it seems they said even at stage 5 restrictions they will not close schools?

Teachers added to ‘frontline’ workers list, fair play!

It's not "it seems", it's there:

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2dc71-level-5/

... Level 5 = going back to last spring situation (no social visit, no going more than 5km from your house to exercise, 10 people max at funerals etc) BUT with open schools... Seems bonkers to me.

khalessi · 15-09-2020 04:29PM

Latest update from EC on twitter

95 schools and 11 pending

https://twitter.com/schools_19/status/1305878076774133760

is_that_so · 15-09-2020 04:30PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

A friend who is trying to keep track has said 98 today.

Are they counting ones where the students have already returned?

15-09-2020 04:34PM

Can't help but wonder if we are reliving the nightmare of our parents and grandparents and those before them who sent kids out to school knowing that they were unsafe places where physical and mental and even sexual abuse was a possibility and, for many, a probability and worse. We asked ourselves how they could have been so blind, so deluded, so heads in the sand about it all, how afraid to challenge the schools which were under the churches. Can't help but feel we are now experiencing our version of this with the danger being the pandemic which is now affecting so many schools less than three weeks into term and us not wanting to speak up, to risk the economy and our own jobs and the government not being open and honest.

What's the next step? What's always the next step, though some will scoff. Talk to Joe https://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/

SusanC10 · 15-09-2020 04:35PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Are they counting ones where the students have already returned?

Yes, it's since the Kids went back.

meeeeh · 15-09-2020 04:42PM

Balagan1 wrote: »

Can't help but wonder if we are reliving the nightmare of our parents and grandparents and those before them who sent kids out to school knowing that they were unsafe places where physical and mental and even sexual abuse was a possibility and, for many, a probability and worse. We asked ourselves how they could have been so blind, so deluded, so heads in the sand about it all, how afraid to challenge the schools which were under the churches. Can't help but feel we are now experiencing our version of this with the danger being the pandemic which is now affecting so many schools less than three weeks into term and us not wanting to speak up, to risk the economy and our own jobs and the government not being open and honest.

What's the next step? What's always the next step, though some will scoff. Talk to Joe https://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/

Or maybe not sending kids to school to protect them is equivalent to getting iodine to protect you from radiation. Pointless.

is_that_so · 15-09-2020 04:43PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Yes, it's since the Kids went back.

No, I mean schools that sent classes/students home and those classes have since returned. For example, I saw a figure of 54 a few days ago but 8 had already returned.

SusanC10 · 15-09-2020 04:53PM

is_that_so wrote: »

No, I mean schools that sent classes/students home and those classes have since returned. For example, I saw a figure of 54 a few days ago but 8 had already returned.

Yes, it is an overall figure.

PCros · 15-09-2020 05:04PM

Yes its hard to know exactly how many have returned to school but I guess its a shorter spell that its only 10 days isolation now right?

So any schools from the 1st-4th would be back so 13 I guess.

Will Yam · 15-09-2020 06:08PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

A friend who is trying to keep track has said 98 today.

So 2.25% of all schools.

And this is not the current rate of schools affected. It includes schools that may have had one case 3 weeks ago but nothing since, and now operating normally.

combat14 · 15-09-2020 06:28PM

357 cases today, hundreds on hospital trolleys yesterday, govt gone into self isolation and we are only at mid september .. at least it's good to know that schools are going perfectly fine at the moment

PowerToWait · 15-09-2020 06:29PM

Will Yam wrote: »

So 2.25% of all schools.

And this is not the current rate of schools affected. It includes schools that may have had one case 3 weeks ago but nothing since, and now operating normally.

Were there many open 3 weeks ago?

Will Yam · 15-09-2020 06:32PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

Were there many open 3 weeks ago?

I don’t know. Didn’t all primary schools open 3 weeks ago.?

lulublue22 · 15-09-2020 06:35PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

Were there many open 3 weeks ago?

Schools in our area are back a week and a half. This is the start of our 2nd full week so 10 school days. Not sure many went back that early due to guidelines being released relatively late and the scramble to get ready.

wirelessdude01 · 15-09-2020 06:35PM

Will Yam wrote: »

I don’t know. Didn’t all primary schools open 3 weeks ago.?

All primary schools would be open two weeks today.

lulublue22 · 15-09-2020 06:36PM

Will Yam wrote: »

I don’t know. Didn’t all primary schools open 3 weeks ago.?

No - we didn’t nor did any in our area.

15-09-2020 06:37PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

All primary schools would be open two weeks today.

Some were open the previous Wednesday. Ours went back Friday the 28th

wirelessdude01 · 15-09-2020 06:39PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Some were open the previous Wednesday. Ours went back Friday the 28th

I'm saying that all primary schools would have been back two weeks by now. That includes all the ones who opened in August like the ones you mentioned and also the ones who didn't open until Sept 1st.

PCros · 15-09-2020 06:39PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

All primary schools would be open two weeks today.

My kids primary school was back on the 28th August.

Most schools were back w/c 31st.

Edit: Sorry this post came in a second after your reply above.

irishblessing · 15-09-2020 06:42PM

Our school and ones I know of were back Sept 3rd.

15-09-2020 06:55PM

Back to Primary on 28th August.

KerryConnor · 15-09-2020 06:57PM

I don't think it's relevant if the kids have gone back. Schools are only open 2 weeks and it's the number of schools where exposure to Covid has taken place. I think close to 100 schools with confirmed cases means that many more than that have the Covid virus present in the school at some point in the last 2 weeks.
As someone living in a house where 4 of us are attending school in North Dublin each day it's an really worrying statistic. I'm very thankful that none of us are high risk.

is_that_so wrote: »

No, I mean schools that sent classes/students home and those classes have since returned. For example, I saw a figure of 54 a few days ago but 8 had already returned.

Blondini · 15-09-2020 06:59PM

Our second level school only fully back last Wednesday.

15-09-2020 07:03PM

KerryConnor wrote: »

I don't think it's relevant if the kids have gone back. Schools are only open 2 weeks and it's the number of schools where exposure to Covid has taken place. I think close to 100 schools with confirmed cases means that many more than that have the Covid virus present in the school at some point in the last 2 weeks.
As someone living in a house where 4 of us are attending school in North Dublin each day it's an really worrying statistic. I'm very thankful that none of us are high risk.

Of course it’s relevant. If schools have returned without clusters that is important to know. Maybe we are just lucky so far, but it’s arguably more important than the number of classes out with single cases.

KerryConnor · 15-09-2020 07:28PM

Im skeptical at this point tho as only 3 classmates from a Dublin school were tested after positive case on Dublin southside for example. Not half as thorough as the cabinet in isolation this evening waiting for Stephen Donnellys test result you must admit.
I think schools should be back, personally im much happier back in our routine, but we have to recognise whats going on, especially for those at high risk and be transparent with data.
Im just hoping kids transmit as little as they think and that the doctors saying the virus is weakening are right.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Of course it’s relevant. If schools have returned without clusters that is important to know. Maybe we are just lucky so far, but it’s arguably more important than the number of classes out with single cases.

downthemiddle · 15-09-2020 09:32PM

Will Yam wrote: »

So 2.25% of all schools.

And this is not the current rate of schools affected. It includes schools that may have had one case 3 weeks ago but nothing since, and now operating normally.

The first case was confirmed on September 1st so that is the rate of infection for two weeks.

How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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