How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

JDD · 07-09-2020 03:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Shouldn't your other child have stayed at home too? Your daughter could have Covid, and your other child either pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic.

I did consider this. Given the advice given by the doctor's office the last time I called in August (my 3 year old had similar symptoms) I thought it unlikely that the doctor would recommend a test. The guidelines say that siblings can go to school while another sibling is awaiting test results. Even I think that's nonsense - if the doctor thinks your child may have covid and has sent your child for a test, the other siblings should be at home. But keeping a sibling at home when you haven't been told by the doctor that a test is needed probably tips in the opposite direction.

School starts at 8.40, the doctors office only opened at 9am. So I walked back after dropping the 5 year old off and had a coffee in the local cafe. I decided if the doctor recommended a test, I'd head back down to the school and bring the 5 year old home, despite the guidelines saying that she'd be fine to stay until the test result.

As it is, since the doctor's office didn't recommend a test, on balance I'm going to keep her in school.

morebabies · 07-09-2020 05:22PM

Sorry if this has been asked before, but if a child has a virus and needs to stay off school because symptoms are Covid-like but at the same time, not very serious, do we have to get a test or is it ok to just follow the wait and see, keep at home until 48hrs symptom free?

Reason I ask is that I have no problem following the protocol for staying off school, but if required to get a test every time they have symptoms, I'll be in at the Drs every second week with my asthmatic kids coughing.

Ek1313 · 07-09-2020 05:26PM

Hi just a quick question. We are having family member from Poland staying with us in October for 3 weeks. Should the school be notified that we are going to have visitors???

khalessi · 07-09-2020 05:28PM

Have gotten 3 different texts so far to my phone with different times and days for covid test and one text to cancel the second time.

07-09-2020 05:31PM

morebabies wrote: »

Sorry if this has been asked before, but if a child has a virus and needs to stay off school because symptoms are Covid-like but at the same time, not very serious, do we have to get a test or is it ok to just follow the wait and see, keep at home until 48hrs symptom free?

Reason I ask is that I have no problem following the protocol for staying off school, but if required to get a test every time they have symptoms, I'll be in at the Drs every second week with my asthmatic kids coughing.

Guidance updated today

When to keep your child at home and phone your GP

Do not send your child to school or childcare if any of the following is true.

Your child has:

a temperature of 38 degrees Celsius or more
any other common symptoms of coronavirus - a new cough, loss or changed sense of taste or smell, or shortness of breath
been in close contact with someone who has tested positive for coronavirus
been living with someone who is unwell and may have coronavirus
an existing breathing condition that has recently got worse
You will need to:

Isolate your child - this means keeping them at home and completely avoiding contact with other people, as much as possible. Read advice on self-isolation
Phone your GP - they will advise you if your child needs a coronavirus test.
Everyone that your child lives with should also restrict their movements, at least until your child gets a diagnosis from their GP or a coronavirus test result. This means not going to school, childcare or work.
Treat your child at home for their symptoms.
Your child should only leave your home to have a test or to see your GP.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/if-your-child-has-symptoms.html

s1ippy · 07-09-2020 05:32PM

Are you getting a test khaleesi?

Is that because you're a close contact of a confirmed case? Should you notify your school?

kippy · 07-09-2020 05:34PM

Ek1313 wrote: »

Hi just a quick question. We are having family member from Poland staying with us in October for 3 weeks. Should the school be notified that we are going to have visitors???

Assuming that visitor is flying in from Poland and not already living in Ireland, that visitor should isolate on arrival into the country for 14 days I believe, family member or not. They should not have contact with your or your family for that time.

khalessi · 07-09-2020 05:38PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Are you getting a test khaleesi?

Is that because you're a close contact of a confirmed case? Should you notify your school?

Nope one of the kids. They have a rotten headcold but following protocol and rang gp who said because of cough needs test. I dont need test according to gp when I asked do I need one. Rang my school too as I needed to stay off to mind kids as they aren't in school.

KerryConnor · 07-09-2020 05:41PM

Am worried at how fast the number of schools confirming positive cases is building up. Is this much faster than expected?

Ek1313 · 07-09-2020 05:42PM

kippy wrote: »

Assuming that visitor is flying in from Poland and not already living in Ireland, that visitor should isolate on arrival into the country for 14 days I believe, family member or not. They should not have contact with your or your family for that time.

That's where my issue is- some information refers to restricted movement and some to self isolation???

wirelessdude01 · 07-09-2020 05:44PM

KerryConnor wrote: »

Am worried at how fast the number of schools confirming positive cases is building up. Is this much faster than expected?

In your opinion it's exactly what most teachers would have expected.

07-09-2020 05:57PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

In your opinion it's exactly what most teachers would have expected.

It’s exactly what anyone with a brain would have expected. If your getting 100 cases a day, you would expect 20 to be kids, therefore classrooms are going to be isolated. It is not any indication there is a problem with schools returning however

SusanC10 · 07-09-2020 05:59PM

20 Schools now by my count.
15 Primary and 5 Secondary.
Dublin 12
Kerry 3
Meath 3
Cork 1
Clare 1

TheValeyard · 07-09-2020 06:02PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

20 Schools now by my count.
15 Primary and 5 Secondary.
Dublin 12
Kerry 3
Meath 3
Cork 1
Clare 1

You seem to have more info than me. I've seen a different list for today.

Blondini · 07-09-2020 06:12PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

20 Schools now by my count.
15 Primary and 5 Secondary.
Dublin 12
Kerry 3
Meath 3
Cork 1
Clare 1

22 schools confirmed according to Facebook group.

07-09-2020 06:22PM

Blondini wrote: »

22 schools confirmed according to Facebook group.

1,000,000 students, 30 per class, 33,000 classes, 22 cases related to these classes. 0.06%. In two weeks these classes will be back, and another group will be off. Probably more. But this is the way it will continue, Rolling closures of classes due to close contacts, with a proportion of these resulting in clusters

Blondini · 07-09-2020 06:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

1,000,000 students, 30 per class, 33,000 classes, 22 cases related to these classes. 0.06%.

I've no idea why you've just posted a bunch of poor calculations and bad statistics at a maths teacher?

Do you want me to grade your work or something?

Bobtheman · 07-09-2020 06:30PM

These schools have not been fully shut down ? Just partially. Is that correct?

07-09-2020 06:38PM

Blondini wrote: »

I've no idea why you've just posted a bunch of poor calculations and bad statistics at a maths teacher?

Do you want me to grade your work or something?

While my numbers were rounded, an engineer, qualified in applied physics who works in data validation may have more experience of practical applications of statistical techniques than a maths teacher who thinks a Facebook group is a good data source

Blondini · 07-09-2020 06:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

While my numbers were rounded, an engineer, qualified in applied physics who works in data validation may have more experience of practical applications of statistical techniques than a maths teacher who thinks a Facebook group is a good data source

Lol.

State of that.

That's what I love about the internet, you can be whoever you want to be. :pac:

Good luck.

KerryConnor · 07-09-2020 06:57PM

I get your point but surely the number cases in school is unsustainable. unless kids cant pass it on it will spill over.
Feeling v pessimistic tonight.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

1,000,000 students, 30 per class, 33,000 classes, 22 cases related to these classes. 0.06%. In two weeks these classes will be back, and another group will be off. Probably more. But this is the way it will continue, Rolling closures of classes due to close contacts, with a proportion of these resulting in clusters

07-09-2020 06:58PM

Blondini wrote: »

Lol.

State of that.

That's what I love about the internet, you can be whoever you want to be. :pac:

Good luck.

Still no arguments against what I say. Don’t have a point. Attack the poster. Want me to send you on my degree, LinkedIn profile and job description?

Dick

07-09-2020 07:00PM

KerryConnor wrote: »

I get your point but surely the number cases in school is unsustainable. unless kids cant pass it on it will spill over.
Feeling v pessimistic tonight.

What is unsustainable is abandoning education for a year or more. If we wait until there is no risk, it will be 12 months before schools can return

iamwhoiam · 07-09-2020 07:01PM

Blondini wrote: »

Lol.

State of that.

That's what I love about the internet, you can be whoever you want to be. :pac:

Good luck.

So can you be .

Hubertj · 07-09-2020 07:06PM

Blondini wrote: »

22 schools confirmed according to Facebook group.

I would definitely believe what I read on Facebook. Best place to get accurate information.

Hubertj · 07-09-2020 07:08PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What is unsustainable is abandoning education for a year or more. If we wait until there is no risk, it will be 12 months before schools can return

Probably the most common sense statement anyone will read on this thread.

iamwhoiam · 07-09-2020 07:09PM

Hubertj wrote: »

I would definitely believe what I read on Facebook. Best place to get accurate information.

I would also be extremely wary of a Facebook group about school closures or cases . I think its a dangerous and unsafe way to make known about cases in a school . We all know how mistakes and misinformation can lead to bad behaviour in some people

irishblessing · 07-09-2020 07:09PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What is unsustainable is abandoning education for a year or more. If we wait until there is no risk, it will be 12 months before schools can return

What IS sustainable however is the minister for education/government implementing a blended learning model as other countries have done. Besides the fact that schools/classes will continue to have closures, people will constantly need to quarantine.
-There are many vulnerable teachers, adults, students and family members
-Some will become sick, some will need to quarantine. = loss of continued edu.
-Parents should also have a choice whether to send in children in a global pandemic
-a blended learning model where some are taught from home full time, part time, or when sick/quarantining, would also reduce class sizes for those in the school.
-Other countries have done this. Online learning or tv programming or both.

I want to seriously shake the education minister and tell her to wake the f up!

combat14 · 07-09-2020 07:10PM

Hubertj wrote: »

I would definitely believe what I read on Facebook. Best place to get accurate information.

letters from school posted on page, though not all cases out there recorded e.g. 4 cases in one class alone in south kilkenny as far as I know not included

at least this page is providing some info better than HSE/ Dept of Education is doing for now

Blondini · 07-09-2020 07:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Still no arguments against what I say. Don’t have a point. Attack the poster. Want me to send you on my degree, LinkedIn profile and job description?

Dick

iamwhoiam wrote: »

So can you be .

Hubertj wrote: »

I would definitely believe what I read on Facebook. Best place to get accurate information.

Three against one.

BULLIES :pac:

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