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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #2402
    Coillte_Bhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,930 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    In light of the decision re sports being allowed no spectators, interesting to note that in England the FA are bringing in phased return of fans at the lower levels, 15% of capacity from Saturday and 30% from Aug 30th


  • #2403
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    In light of the decision re sports being allowed no spectators, interesting to note that in England the FA are bringing in phased return of fans at the lower levels, 15% of capacity from Saturday and 30% from Aug 30th

    Meanwhile in opposite land they are removing all spectators. 50 people allowed at mass but only 15 in Croke Park.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #2404
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,344 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    I'd settle for us acting like Northern Italy now. Restaurants, bars, water parks, shops, cafes all open.
    People getting on with living and enjoying their lives.

    Meanwhile in Laois and Offaly viable businesses and jobs sacrificed to placate hysterical moanbags.

    Nightclubs in Italy are now being closed apart from that its the same as here. Just like every other country.


  • #2405
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Nightclubs in Italy are now being closed apart from that its the same as here. Just like every other country.

    Are bars not open in Italy?


  • #2406
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Thats ironic. There is a lot of children who's lives have ended prematurely due to the unending restrictions.

    Their futures wiped out by hysterical nonsense

    Futures wiped out?

    Hysterical alright :pac:


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  • #2407
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,587 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    70% of all nursing home cases survived.
    I imagine eating a banana would carry more risk for a nursing home patient.
    Sadly we have flushed our children's lives down the toilet with this hysterical nonsense

    "I imagine eating a banana would carry more risk for a nursing home patient."
    Hysteria? This is what it looks like folks. Right here.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #2408
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    "I imagine eating a banana would carry more risk for a nursing home patient."
    Hysteria? This is what it looks like folks. Right here.

    Absolutely though not as hysterical as this.
    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Democracy is dead in Ireland.

    The restrictions and police state are here to stay until the UN get involved and remove the tyrannical flute MM


  • #2409
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,344 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Are bars not open in Italy?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-nightclubs-face-masks-cases-young-people-roberto-speranza-a9673391.html

    Some bars are open same as here.


  • #2410
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    MadYaker wrote: »
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-italy-nightclubs-face-masks-cases-young-people-roberto-speranza-a9673391.html

    Some bars are open same as here.

    So in Italy you have to buy a meal if you want to go to a pub/bar?


  • #2411
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    robbiezero wrote: »
    So in Italy you have to buy a meal if you want to go to a pub/bar?

    Nope you don't


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  • #2412
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    bettyoleary wrote: »
    What kind of cases ??Suit cases. Nut Cases? What are you talking about?. There is no such thing in humanity as cases. We are talking about human beings, Our friends, family children. Did you look into taking any risks yet Fintan???? I doubt it just motor mouthing on here again. Nothing changed in last few days :o

    Cases of Covid betty. Try and keep up.

    Are people so delicate now that using the word cases is offensive?

    Should NPHET start to name the individuals who test positive so your not confused?


  • #2413
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    i_surge wrote: »
    Futures wiped out?

    Hysterical alright :pac:

    You couldn't care less for the children, not a care in the world.

    As long as your safe from the miniscule risk from Covid, the generations after you can suffer and pay the large bill.

    Baffling


  • #2414
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    You couldn't care less for the children, not a care in the world.

    As long as your safe from the miniscule risk from Covid, the generations after you can suffer and pay the large bill.

    Baffling

    You are speaking from a place of irrational fear about this bill. The lights won't go out. The longer we piss about not sorting Covid out the bigger that bill will be though.

    More worried about parents and grandparents but primarily I have a big problem with incompetence and doing things half arsed.


  • #2415
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    i_surge wrote: »
    You are speaking from a place of irrational fear about this bill. The lights won't go out. The longer we piss about not sorting Covid out the bigger that bill will be though.

    More worried about parents and grandparents but primarily I have a big problem with incompetence and doing things half arsed.

    This bill you mention will be far bigger then the last one and the crowd in power then couldnt sort it out.


  • #2416
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    i_surge wrote: »
    You are speaking from a place of irrational fear about this bill. The lights won't go out. The longer we piss about not sorting Covid out the bigger that bill will be though.

    More worried about parents and grandparents but primarily I have a big problem with incompetence and doing things half arsed.

    "Sorting Covid"

    What does that mean?


  • #2417
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    "Sorting Covid"

    What does that mean?

    You know what it means.

    Short term pain, long term gain.

    Only show in town unless you are dreaming of a safe available vaccine in the next couple of years.


  • #2418
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    i_surge wrote: »
    You know what it means.

    Short term pain, long term gain.

    Only show in town unless you are dreaming of a safe available vaccine in the next couple of years.

    I don't know what this entails, can you give me a brief outline


  • #2419
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    I don't know what this entails, can you give me a brief outline

    Saving all the children


  • #2420
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Well nightlife in Spain is largely shut down, and no smoking on the terraces or in the streets if not 2 metres away.

    Wet pubs shut down too, sorry for the description, but those pubs that only serve grog. Just cafes with food i.e a tapa or two will do and nothing else allowed in most places now.

    The Benidorm Bunnies from the UK are devastated.

    I prefer the Spanish way of wine/beer and nibbles (which can be quite substantial), than the cheap beer places, so avoid them like the plague. But many like them which is fair enough, each to their own, but not happening for the foreseeable, and the BIG SEASON is nearly over now too.

    So we are on a par really in lots of ways, apart from the smoking outdoors now and masks obligatory everywhere.

    Won't be going back for a while yet. There are demos and rumblings sans masks going on now.


  • #2421
    almostover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭almostover


    A trip to a local supermarket has highlighted to me that the main reason for these increased restrictions is the general apathy of the public to personal responsibility. Guy behind me sauntered into the supermarket with no mask on. Headphones on and oblivious to all around him. 3-4 more people with the mask below the nose as if the nose isn't connected in any way to their respiratory system. Another person with a face shield I wouldn't wear strimming, pretty sure the visors have been shown to be of limited effectiveness. Demoralising stuff really.


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  • #2422
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    almostover wrote: »
    A trip to a local supermarket has highlighted to me that the main reason for these increased restrictions is the general apathy of the public to personal responsibility. Guy behind me sauntered into the supermarket with no mask on. Headphones on and oblivious to all around him. 3-4 more people with the mask below the nose as if the nose isn't connected in any way to their respiratory system. Another person with a face shield I wouldn't wear strimming, pretty sure the visors have been shown to be of limited effectiveness. Demoralising stuff really.

    You are seeing the results of poor communication and mixed messaging.
    No masks needed back in April and May, but all of a sudden now they are essential in supermarkets. No wonder people aren't taking that too seriously.

    I have a crumpled old yoke that lives in my arse pocket that I throw on whenever I drop into the shop.
    Most of staff have their masks down below their chins anyway.

    The nonsense about outdoor restrictions from yesterday will only add to the apathy.


  • #2423
    almostover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭almostover


    robbiezero wrote: »
    You are seeing the results of poor communication and mixed messaging.
    No masks needed back in April and May, but all of a sudden now they are essential in supermarkets. No wonder people aren't taking that too seriously.

    I have a crumpled old yoke that lives in my arse pocket that I throw on whenever I drop into the shop.
    Most of staff have their masks down below their chins anyway.

    The nonsense about outdoor restrictions from yesterday will only add to the apathy.

    Ok where to begin with this. It's highly likely that masks were not recommended at the start of the pandemic to protect the supply of PPE to frontline workers. There was a PPE shortage at the time. Remember the chartered flight from China bringing PPE to us?

    If you're reusing a mask and storing it in your pocket your just putting yourself at a heightened risk, not exactly sticking it to the man. On the staff and below their chin thing, as I'd explain to a child, two wrongs don't make a right.

    I agree somewhat on the outdoor restrictions, confusing and dont seem too logical. But we should look at our own personal behaviours first before we start looking for some bogeyman to burn at the stake for the increased restrictions.


  • #2424
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you want some comedy gold, watch Stephen Donnelly getting interviewed by Zara king.

    Starts saying that schools are a controlled environment and homes are not. Almost implying kids are safer at school.

    Then starts getting really flustered and talking about how trampolines are dangerous for kids... can’t believe what I watched...

    This man is our minister for health!


  • #2425
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    robbiezero wrote: »
    You are seeing the results of poor communication and mixed messaging.
    No masks needed back in April and May, but all of a sudden now they are essential in supermarkets. No wonder people aren't taking that too seriously.

    I have a crumpled old yoke that lives in my arse pocket that I throw on whenever I drop into the shop.
    Most of staff have their masks down below their chins anyway.

    The nonsense about outdoor restrictions from yesterday will only add to the apathy.

    Masks were originally designed for very high risk jobs. To have every one walking around dressed up like someone going into Chernobyl is a farce given the risks of covid


  • #2426
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    almostover wrote: »
    Ok where to begin with this. It's highly likely that masks were not recommended at the start of the pandemic to protect the supply of PPE to frontline workers. There was a PPE shortage at the time. Remember the chartered flight from China bringing PPE to us?

    If you're rescuing a mask and stroking it in your pocket your just putting yourself at a heightened risk, not exactly sticking it to the man. On the staff and below their chin thing, as I'd explain to a child, two wrongs don't make a right.

    I agree somewhat on the outdoor restrictions, confusing and dont seem too logical. But we should look at our own personal behaviours first before we start looking for some bogeyman to burn at the stake for the increased restrictions.

    I'm not sticking it to anyone. If I had to take public transport I'd certainly be doing a better job on the mask or had to be inside for a length of time with strangers etc.
    I just can't be arsed for a 5 minute run into the supermarket where I have effectively no chance of catching it.


  • #2427
    almostover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭almostover


    robbiezero wrote: »
    I'm not sticking it to anyone. If I had to take public transport I'd certainly be doing a better job on the mask or had to be inside for a length of time with strangers etc.
    I just can't be arsed for a 5 minute run into the supermarket where I have effectively no chance of catching it.

    What about your risk of spreading it to others? Who may immunocompromised or elderly?


  • #2428
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    almostover wrote: »
    What about your risk of spreading it to others? Who may immunocompromised or elderly?

    Does these people not have the personal responsibility to minimise the risk for themselves?


  • #2429
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,587 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The Belly wrote: »
    Masks were originally designed for very high risk jobs. To have every one walking around dressed up like someone going into Chernobyl is a farce given the risks of covid

    You obviously don't know much about masks or Chernobyl if you can possibly think that for real.

    People wore masks \ coverings during the Spanish Flu epidemic, a more relevant example.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #2430
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If you want some comedy gold, watch Stephen Donnelly getting interviewed by Zara king.

    Starts saying that schools are a controlled environment and homes are not. Almost implying kids are safer at school.

    Then starts getting really flustered and talking about how trampolines are dangerous for kids... can’t believe what I watched...

    This man is our minister for health!
    Any politician than switches party to enhance their career should not be in any position of power. He changes his mind depending on whch way the wind is blowing. An absolute spoofer.


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  • #2431
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    almostover wrote: »
    What about your risk of spreading it to others? Who may immunocompromised or elderly?

    Effectively zero risk.
    IMO their risk has increased since masks came in. I now see people stopped chatting to each other, practically jumping on each other to get stuff off shelves etc.
    People were far more careful without the masks.
    Also my mask is in poor enough nick, but some of the lads coming off construction sites coming in to get their lunch have their masks in some state. I wouldn't put them on a dog.


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