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Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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  • #2402
    Grandeeod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    No, I can't.
    If the thinking was that alcohol was detrimental then surely ban the sale of alcohol like South Africa did.
    The purchase of alcohol in off licenses allowed the house parties to happen.

    Had we banned the sale of alcohol our health care system would have been over run with patients suffering from the resultant effects.


  • #2403
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    No, I can't.
    If the thinking was that alcohol was detrimental then surely ban the sale of alcohol like South Africa did.
    The purchase of alcohol in off licenses allowed the house parties to happen.

    People weren’t allowed to have barbecues with their friends during the lockdown either but did. So ban food sales too?


  • #2404
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,885 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    No, I can't.
    If the thinking was that alcohol was detrimental then surely ban the sale of alcohol like South Africa did.
    The purchase of alcohol in off licenses allowed the house parties to happen.

    What else would you like to ban?


  • #2405
    Meathman12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ✭Meathman12


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    People weren’t allowed to have barbecues with their friends during the lockdown either but did. So ban food sales too?

    Food is essential for life
    Alcohol is not essential for life. I think it's classified as a poison.


  • #2406
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    Food is essential for life
    Alcohol is not essential for life. I think it's classified as a poison.

    Vitamin supplements and water it is so.


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  • #2407
    Meathman12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ✭Meathman12


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    Had we banned the sale of alcohol our health care system would have been over run with patients suffering from the resultant effects.
    What would these effects have been? Hospitals are plagued by drunks or victims of drunks.


  • #2408
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,377 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    Really can't understand how pubs food or non food got closed but off licenses were allowed to remain open.
    Really?
    People can't buy alcohol in a supermarket no?

    God forbid people have a drink at home like ffs


  • #2409
    Meathman12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ✭Meathman12


    MadYaker wrote: »
    The human need for social interaction caused the house parties to happen. The problem is densely packed pubs with poor ventilation are a very good place for spreading this virus. Multiple countries far more organised and advanced than us have tried and failed to reopen nightclubs long term.
    So the govt could have place very stringent conditions on pubs staying open. I know nothing about licencing laws but I think publicans are required to make sure their premises is orderly.
    When the customer has left an off license with a slab it's very hard to control it's consumption.


  • #2410
    Meathman12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ✭Meathman12


    gmisk wrote: »
    Really?
    People can't buy alcohol in a supermarket no?

    God forbid people have a drink at home like ffs
    Off license, supermarket, petrol station.
    As is usually the case the actions of a tiny minority ruin things for the majority.


  • #2411
    Meathman12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ✭Meathman12


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    What else would you like to ban?
    I never said ban pubs. But I think the govt missed an opportunity to control covid spread by banning pubs and allowing off sales of alcohol.
    I think the opposite could have been a better option.


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  • #2412
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,377 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    Off license, supermarket, petrol station.
    As is usually the case the actions of a tiny minority ruin things for the majority.
    So your saying prohibition....lol.....not a chance, there actually would be riots.
    People would also just hop across to northern Ireland or order it online.


  • #2413
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    I never said ban pubs. But I think the govt missed an opportunity to control covid spread by banning pubs and allowing off sales of alcohol.
    I think the opposite could have been a better option.

    So have people go out and drink among groups of strangers rather than in their own homes? That’s crackers.


  • #2414
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    The only reason people are giving out about the Berlin party is that people were having a laugh in a pub on a Saturday night, heaven forbid.

    No, it’s not.


  • #2415
    Meathman12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ✭Meathman12


    gmisk wrote: »
    So your saying prohibition....lol.....not a chance, there actually would be riots.
    People would also just hop across to northern Ireland or order it online.

    No allow pubs to be open.
    Don't allow off licenses, supermarkets, petrol stations to sell takeaway.


  • #2416
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,772 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Have a bad feeling they will close food pubs

    The Vineters need to stand up for themselves if this happens


  • #2417
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,457 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    No, I can't.
    If the thinking was that alcohol was detrimental then surely ban the sale of alcohol like South Africa did.
    The purchase of alcohol in off licenses allowed the house parties to happen.

    Because its been such an incredible success in South Africa, of course.

    No, wait, its lead to mass methanol poisoning deaths due to home distillation gone wrong. Silly me.

    (and a huge uptick in general criminality in regards to illicit supply)


  • #2418
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,377 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    No allow pubs to be open.
    Don't allow off licenses, supermarkets, petrol stations to sell takeaway.
    Are you actually mad? Your solution is for people to be rammed into pubs....lol


  • #2419
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,457 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    gmisk wrote: »
    Are you actually mad? Your solution is for people to be rammed into pubs....lol

    Its the old VFI/LVA line - drinking in pubs is responsible, drinking at home is deadly. This is why they are totally supportive of minimum unit pricing as it only affects home drinking.


  • #2420
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,576 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    Really can't understand how pubs food or non food got closed but off licenses were allowed to remain open.

    There may not be much you do understand in that case! Mother of God!


  • #2421
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,868 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    No allow pubs to be open.
    Don't allow off licenses, supermarkets, petrol stations to sell takeaway.

    You're not a publican by any chance are you?


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  • #2422
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,769 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    Food is essential for life
    Alcohol is not essential for life. I think it's classified as a poison.

    Sounds like a life with the Aimish would be ideal for you, meanwhile leave the rest of us to buy a few beers from the offfie.


  • #2423
    buried
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭buried


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    Food is essential for life
    Alcohol is not essential for life. I think it's classified as a poison.

    I'm digging yer shtick Meathman, television ain't essential either, lets ban that too

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • #2424
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    L1011 wrote: »
    drinking at home is deadly

    Can’t argue with that.


  • #2425
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,885 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    No allow pubs to be open.
    Don't allow off licenses, supermarkets, petrol stations to sell takeaway.

    Yes ban everything you don’t like


  • #2426
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    L1011 wrote: »

    No, wait, its lead to mass methanol poisoning deaths due to home distillation gone wrong. Silly me.
    )
    I have never once seen an instance where I thought "home distillation gone wrong" was the cause.

    It is invariable gangs selling methanol or other industrial alcohols as ethanol, it happens the world over, there have been several cases in Ireland over the last 10 years.

    Home distillation is actually pretty safe, I'd worry more about eating chicken somebody made at home. You would have to really go out of your way to separate the methanol and it would take a a very large amount of initial alcohol to work with. It would be pretty much deliberately poisioning yourself and if you want to do that there are far easier ways to go about it. If brewing from sugar, which most home distillers do, then there are bare traces of methanol produced.

    Bit off topic but I hate seeing the myth being perpetuated, it's one of the big reasons it's kept illegal, while several countries have legalised it.


  • #2427
    Pentecost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    Yes ban everything you don’t like

    Ban the internet. No good can come from it.


  • #2428
    Grandeeod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Meathman12 wrote: »
    What would these effects have been? Hospitals are plagued by drunks or victims of drunks.

    Oh dear! Do I really need to explain the effects on our healthcare system if alcohol was banned? Seriously?


  • #2429
    Dickie10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    theres already a few shebeens in operation around me. gordon elliot the racehorse trainer has one in his yard now. holds up to 40 people, fully kitted out pub.


  • #2430
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Who is this Meath Man. Drive me to drink


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  • #2431
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    Oh dear! Do I really need to explain the effects on our healthcare system if alcohol was banned? Seriously?

    Few auld Alcos with the shakes? I'm sure it would survive it in fairness.

    Prob the main thing Keeping the wards free at the minute is the weekly fight club at closing time in every town centre has been precluded from taking place now for months.


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