Will you travel? [Mod Note in Post #1 - Travel Discussion Only! Megathread]

I know a fella in the North who was in England last week. He's freely traveling around the Republic now. If you need/want to go somewhere not on the green list, you just have to take a detour.

Another thought that occurred to me: There are thousands of people who live in Spain and work in Gibraltar, not to mention loads of Gibraltarians who go shopping or go out on the Spanish side. There's a lot of intermingling between people from both sides every single day.

If Spain is deemed unsafe, how can they consider Gibraltar to be safe? Do they actually know what they are talking about?

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Another thought that occurred to me: There are thousands of people who live in Spain and work in Gibraltar, not to mention loads of Gibraltarians who go shopping or go out on the Spanish side. There's a lot of intermingling between people from both sides every single day.

If Spain is deemed unsafe, how can they consider Gibraltar to be safe? Do they actually know what they are talking about?

Good point... Another example that this list was built up with little or no common sense. The same argument works for San Marino... 30k inhabitants City-state right smack in the middle of the Emilia-Romagna region (currently the region with the highest infection rate in Italy btw). There is no way of traveling to San Marino without landing in Bologna airport, the largest city in Emilia-Romagna

But you could extend the argument to many other countries on the green list: you allow travel to Norway and you allow danish to travel here without isolation... well Norway allows travel to and from Spain, France, Portugal etc. so effectively the people that you meet there and that come here could have been in contact with people you are trying to limit contact with.
Germany and Netherlands off the list and they have very close levels to Ireland and very pragmatic limitations of not traveling to specific regions where there have been flare ups like catalunya and Galicia rather than a blanket restriction.
It took them so long to come up with this and have mess it up just to try to do something different than the rest of the EU

facehugger99 wrote: »

You're only going to be advised to tie your shoelaces together.

As I predicted, there is no difference between travel to a country on or off the list other than having to fill in a form - wow - I think I'll take the extra 5 minute hit there rather than miss my 2-weeks in the sun :)

Best of luck to the summer student they'll task with phoning me up to check up on me.

Justify your holiday to yourself whatever way you want. Theres no ban on travel, never was. We're just being asked to follow guidlines to prevent the spread of a pandemic in our country. But your needs are greater, we've established that. You're even willing to bully students over the phone to prove that.

almostover wrote: »

Justify your holiday to yourself whatever way you want. Theres no ban on travel, never was. We're just being asked to follow guidlines to prevent the spread of a pandemic in our country. But your needs are greater, we've established that. You're even willing to bully students over the phone to prove that.

Good finger wag - impressive form, nice tempo.

facehugger99 wrote: »

You're only going to be advised to tie your shoelaces together.

As I predicted, there is no difference between travel to a country on or off the list other than having to fill in a form - wow - I think I'll take the extra 5 minute hit there rather than miss my 2-weeks in the sun :)

Best of luck to the summer student they'll task with phoning me up to check up on me.

Wouldnt expect anything else from likes of you and your ilk

Remember not to whinge if pubs stay shut now and remember your hols hun! Naturally its not gunna be your fault of course.

acequion wrote: »

I'm not even remotely interested in your anecdotal evidence. I want official evidence of tourists or returning Irish people recently entering the country with Covid. Because as many posters will have pointed out if you care to read the thread and think more deeply about this and indeed look around you [ Ballybunion beach thronged this weekend] you might see that holidaying in Ireland is potentially more risky than a quiet vacation somewhere abroad.

Therefore it would be useful to know the source of the daily infections.

I find it bizarre many posters who’ll wag their fingers at people going abroad to low infected areas but will be ok about Dubs touring around Ireland despite Dublins infection figures aren’t very good last few days.

I’d rather a foreign tourist from a low infection country visiting my town than a Dub visiting my town right now.

dartboardio wrote: »

All these people on Facebook 'oh ma gawdd the gubberment r so stupid why is Italy on de list'

Em, read the news people.

Italy WAS the epicentre at the start of the European cases. Now they are doing fantastic. There's absolutely no reason why we shouldn't be able to travel there.

That's the one positive from the green list, despite its obvious limitations. Shows just how ill-informed the online CLOSE THE BORDERS! brigade are. Perhaps even some of our esteemed medical experts will be checking Wikipedia this morning. When these people expect huge hordes of Italian tourists to arrive but small numbers come with no-doubt impeccable social distancing and mask wearing, and there is zero impact on our infection figures, the government could even become a little more generous...

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

So if our covid level drops does the green list shrink as a result

I'd like to know are they using below 5 per 100k 14 day average as the measure or simply any country with a lower number than us.

You can be sure it will shrink. However i think we have bottomed out with our infections. If we don’t get a resurgence the figures won’t get any lower and we’ll hover at current figures until the vaccine arrives.

Everyone should make up their own minds. Holiday in Ireland is more expensive this year beecause a pint costs €5 + €9 for food = €14 this year and even Hotel bars are not open which is ridiculous. Therefore, out all day in dodgy weather in overpriced accommodation and bed early, it’s stay in house or fly to sun really.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

As of the 29th of June you can travel anywhere on the island of Ireland without restrictions.

I thought this , was hard to find that exact wording.
Thanks !

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Portugal is a big country, blanket banning entire countries is silly. Should go by region, some Irish people going on about France, Spain and Portugal as if they were the size of North Kerry.

Same with Germany, 83 million people, yet you’re not “allowed” to travel.
Berlin for example has almost the same population as Ireland, and lower infection rates.
Yet you can travel to Italy!