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How will schools be able to go back in September?

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  • #5912
    History Queen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭History Queen


    markodaly wrote: »
    Perhaps, but its a nice indication of the actual core issue here. Its like herding cats, every Tom, Dick and Harry has an opinion.

    The LC debacle for example. The government had a plan but were kinda left hanging out to dry by other stakeholders, so the chickened out of it and now students and teachers are in a worse position, but that is what one gets for being a fence sitter.

    By other stakeholders I assume you mean some students and parents (fueled by some media personalities). Teachers and unions wanted the exams to go ahead.


  • #5913
    Treppen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭Treppen


    markodaly wrote: »
    FG has nothing to do with this but again, it's convenient to try and wedge a political party divide into this debate. I am asking genuine questions about the lack of leadership in our education system and it seems to be irking some and it may be close to the bone of truth.

    What kind of decisions can these imaginary leaders in education take.
    If you knew anything about education, the decisions come from the department of education. What are YOUR leaders doing ?


  • #5914
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    There is money of course, but there are clearly no competent professionals in the organisation to procure and manage it properly. And everybody is "banging on" about it.



    What's with the tone?

    What tone?

    I gave you a link and said there are more online if you are so inclined to go look for them. Not quite sure what you are on about.


  • #5915
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    markodaly wrote: »
    Perhaps, but its a nice indication of the actual core issue here. Its like herding cats, every Tom, Dick and Harry has an opinion.

    The LC debacle for example. The government had a plan but were kinda left hanging out to dry by other stakeholders, so the chickened out of it and now students and teachers are in a worse position, but that is what one gets for being a fence sitter.

    Well teachers didn't want to grade their own students. It was a vocal minority of students who got what they wanted, assisted by the likes of Ciara Kelly who mouthed off at every chance.
    Once that was achieved she then wanted schools fully back two weeks later. The likes of her talk out of both sides of their ar$e at the same time.


  • #5916
    Deeec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Deeec


    markodaly wrote: »
    FFS come off it, we are in the middle of a global pandemic and the fashion decisions of a 9-year-old should not decide the best way forward when it comes to making a decision.

    Sometimes, I pity the DoE when these are the submissions and suggestions they would be getting.

    Mark im just saying if there are no uniforms I am going to have to spend a lot more on clothes for my kids than if I just had to buy uniforms for school wear- I think every parent would agree on this. I don't think you understand that some children are choosy on what they wear. I cant see any good reason for this decision not to have uniforms other than schools knowing that there will in fact be no school opened ( therefore its pointless parents buying uniforms for the oncoming year)


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  • #5917
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Deeec wrote: »
    Mark im just saying if there are no uniforms I am going to have to spend a lot more on clothes for my kids than if I just had to buy uniforms for school wear- I think every parent would agree on this. I don't think you understand that some children are choosy on what they wear. I cant see any good reason for this decision not to have uniforms other than schools knowing that there will in fact be no school opened ( therefore its pointless parents buying uniforms for the oncoming year)

    I am not being smart but do they not have clothes already that they could wear ?


  • #5918
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    If there is no uniform parents should just buy non crested jumpers and bottoms from Dunnes or wherever and let the kids wear them every day. That's what I'll be doing anyway.


  • #5919
    Deeec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Deeec


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I am not being smart but do they not have clothes already that they could wear ?[/QUOTE

    Of course they do. But Im going to need more clothes if they are not wearing there uniform to school. Usually I wouldn't need ordinary clothes for them for week days. Usually I would only buy clothes for weekends - dresses etc. These wouldn't be suitable for school though. General clothes are more expensive than uniforms for primary school.


  • #5920
    mcsean2163
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭mcsean2163


    Deeec wrote: »
    Mark im just saying if there are no uniforms I am going to have to spend a lot more on clothes for my kids than if I just had to buy uniforms for school wear- I think every parent would agree on this. I don't think you understand that some children are choosy on what they wear. I cant see any good reason for this decision not to have uniforms other than schools knowing that there will in fact be no school opened ( therefore its pointless parents buying uniforms for the oncoming year)

    Fwiw, in my experience, school uniforms are a LOT cheaper than children's clothes


  • #5921
    mcsean2163
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭mcsean2163


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I am not being smart but do they not have clothes already that they could wear ?

    Yes and those clothes get worn out and have to be replaced. Uniforms are horrible but last for ages, was well etc. They're way cheaper in the long run than anything else on the market.


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  • #5922
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,985 ✭✭✭political analyst


    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Well teachers didn't want to grade their own students. It was a vocal minority of students who got what they wanted, assisted by the likes of Ciara Kelly who mouthed off at every chance.
    Once that was achieved she then wanted schools fully back two weeks later. The likes of her talk out of both sides of their ar$e at the same time.

    All the same, I'm sure that many students, whether or not they were prepared to sit exams in July and August, were relieved that the exams were called off.


  • #5923
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    political analyst wrote: »
    All the same, I'm sure that many students, whether or not they were prepared to sit exams in July and August, were relieved that the exams were called off.

    Not under discussion. We have people saying that teachers wanted exams called off blah blah blah.


  • #5924
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Will Students and Teachers need to self-isolate for 14 days and not go to school if they go on abroad in the 2nd half of August ? Or mid-Term etc.

    Yes. DPER issued clarification on this on Tuesday. I received it as an instruction from ETB today.


  • #5925
    Ray Donovan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: »
    Yes. DPER issued clarification on this on Tuesday. I received it as an instruction from ETB today.

    Not if the country is on the Green List.


  • #5926
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Ray Donovan wrote: »
    Not if the country is on the Green List.

    Well that is not what I received this morning, but perhaps it will be updated when Green List is released. The only exception given was Northern Ireland.


  • #5927
    Birdy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Birdy


    Education questions being posed on Oireachtas tv at the moment.

    Plan is still for a full reopening at the end of August.


  • #5928
    combat14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭combat14


    Birdy wrote: »
    Education questions being posed on Oireachtas tv at the moment.

    Plan is still for a full reopening at the end of August.

    schools suppose to open 25/27 august ...

    how is that going to work when still not sure pubs even going to open on 10 aug?


  • #5929
    Birdy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Birdy


    Primary guidelines have issued according to Foley.

    The government will be funding the schools.


  • #5930
    Supercell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,653 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    combat14 wrote: »
    schools suppose to open 25/27 august ...

    how is that going to work when still not sure pubs even going to open on 10 aug?
    Better to prioritise giving future generations an education than opening the pubs and putting us all at risk again. Keep the pubs closed.
    https://www.loughlinstown.ie/

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



  • #5931
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Birdy wrote: »
    Education questions being posed on Oireachtas tv at the moment.

    Plan is still for a full reopening at the end of August.

    Thanks
    I am not a fan of M Healy Ray but fair play to him for laying into the Minister and ask her to get her act together for everyones sake


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  • #5932
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,534 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    combat14 wrote: »
    schools suppose to open 25/27 august ...

    how is that going to work when still not sure pubs even going to open on 10 aug?

    Because only 30% of teachers drink in school.


  • #5933
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Birdy wrote: »
    Primary guidelines have issued according to Foley.

    The government will be funding the schools.

    If those are the guidelines that we have to work with then it is going to be a total sh!t show. There are barely any bones never mind any meat on them. As suspected it looks like it will be left up to us at local level to try and out things in place.


  • #5934
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    If those are the guidelines that we have to work with then it is going to be a total sh!t show. There are barely any bones never mind any meat on them. As suspected it looks like it will be left up to us at local level to try and out things in place.

    Have you got a link, cant find them, thanks


  • #5935
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    khalessi wrote: »
    Have you got a link, cant find them, thanks

    If she is saying that guidelines have been issued then I'm guessing it was those health ones from a few weeks back that made vague references to pods and bubbles but with zero actual information.


  • #5936
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Boggles wrote: »
    Because only 30% of teachers drink in school.

    The gossip and affairs will stop so with the reduction in wine drinking 😜


  • #5937
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Birdy wrote: »
    Primary guidelines have issued according to Foley.

    The government will be funding the schools.

    Have issued? When? Where? The only remotely close document I can find is the interim guidelines?


  • #5938
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    Have issued? When? Where? The only remotely close document I can find is the interim guidelines?

    I'm guessing she is referring to those. Looks like she is totally in over her head with all of this.


  • #5939
    mirrorwall14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    I'm guessing she is referring to those. Looks like she is totally in over her head with all of this.

    We're screwed so. Christ


  • #5940
    scrubs33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭scrubs33


    I’m on the go but Gavan Reilly is tweeting about LC results not being available until September!!

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1283808825406042113?s=21


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  • #5941
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    mirrorwall14 wrote: »
    We're screwed so. Christ

    Always said it would be left up to local arrangements. Will put schools against schools and God help the one that starts a cluster as they are going to be crucified.


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