Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Bowie wrote: »

Using some of the bile and arsery posted here on a different funeral in the same circumstances is all.
Milikng it for all it's worth and more. Story is losing steam boys. But for a few die hard desperadoes in blue hats or Orange sashes....

I posted no bile, it's funny the bile in the replies though;)

Bowie wrote: »

It's lifted from other comments. You must have missed them

Of mine?

maccored wrote: »

bit unusual? Nope. At least google before the oul waffling.

https://beyond.life/help-centre/arranging-a-funeral/when-a-body-is-cremated-what-happens-to-the-coffin

Link adds nothing to this discussion.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A funeral is a 'staged' event Mark.

You can have everything from a State one to a simple one. A horse drawn carraige to a tractor to carry you off.

And it is only 'fake' if you don't know and assume something is happening that is not.

I would wager a bet that all there knew what was happening.

"Staged: contrived for a desired impression "

Funerals normally don't traipse the remains all over town and head to the graveyard for a jolly, and then when its over, sneak off to the crematorium.

It's all a bit odd.

Bowie wrote: »

As staged as every other funeral. This is getting funny though.
Have you ever heard of a funeral director?
What's next the tears didnt have your standard amount of salt?
I'll tell you what's odd you and others obsession and inability to see your hypocrisy. Seriously lads pitiful stuff. I've officially lost interest but I might chime in to laugh and point.

Is it normal that funerals go to a graveyard, even though the body is not to be buried there?

Bowie wrote: »

I've been to 3 such funerals.
Also, so what?

3 funerals, which goes to a cemetery with all the trappings and orations, and then instead of burying the body there, it is put back into a hearse to be transported to a crematorium?

This is not normal practice. People who are cremated have the service there, not in a graveyard.

Bowie wrote: »

No idea. The coffin goes behind a curtain and everyone leaves.

So, it goes to a crematorium, not a cemetery with no crematorium, which happened in this case.

So, the question remains, the Storey funeral was quite odd and staged for the cameras.

maccored wrote: »

- the 'Brits were fighting the Brits' theory.

So you don't accept that leading members of the Belfast Brigade were agents working for MI5 and Special Branch?

Donaldson, Scap, Roy the Rat, Ruby Davidson who touted on the Gibraltar Three and was given another big Shinner send off (he was turned for raping young fellas which was more common it seems among Belfast Provos than an 18th century war ship) and many many more.

Some of currently respectable Shinner apologists were touts who were quietly retired from the military side but still sing the party mantra.

And that is without getting into the common or garden corruption that has seen leading Belfast provies become wealthy men without ever working a day in their lives. They own hotels, bars,security business, property here and overseas.

Where did the Northern Bank money go, as former hunger striker Dolours Price asked? And so on.

christy c wrote: »

While I don't like your use of the IRA, it'll be funny watching the hand waving commence from the die hards.

'Handwaving from die hards'?

Michael and Leo have set the template here...this is grand. He served the penalty, owned up...SF should promote him to Minister for State to even things up.

christy c wrote: »

Isn't SF's thing supposed to be that they represent change? Or are you happy with Micheal and Leo's take on it?

My issue (and I posted about it) with Cowen was not the offence per se (everyone makes mistakes) my issue was with the secrecy and why it was coming out now. As a Minister I think he also has to answer the other questions arising.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

My issue (and I posted about it) with Cowen was not the offence per se (everyone makes mistakes) my issue was with the secrecy and why it was coming out now. As a Minister I think he also has to answer the other questions arising.

A Sinn Fein apologist with with issues about secrecy. Thanks. That will give me a chuckle all day. The official Sinn Fein line on Scapattici is still “nothing to see here”.

markodaly wrote: »

Is it normal that funerals go to a graveyard, even though the body is not to be buried there?

Bowie wrote: »

No idea. The coffin goes behind a curtain and everyone leaves.

Bowie wrote: »

You seem very sure.
All 3 were at a chapel or a room in a cemetery after the church service elsewhere.

You seem a little confused, Bowie. Surprising since one thing we Irish consider ourselves experts on is funerals.

Crematoriums are sometimes located in graveyards eg Mount Jerome and Glasnevin in Dublin. In some cases the main funeral service takes place in a church or chapel elsewhere and a short final service is conducted in the crematorium before, as you put it, the coffin goes behind a curtain. Since you don't seem to know what happens then, the answer is that the body is burned.

In other cases, particularly for non-religious funerals, the entire service is conducted in the crematorium.

The issue with Strorey funeral is that thousands of people went from the church to Milltown cemetery when the crematorium was in fact several miles in a different direction. Turning funerals into political circuses is a well established SF/IRA custom, but doing so in the middle of a pandemic is particularly crass.

SafeSurfer wrote: »

A Sinn Fein apologist with with issues about secrecy. Thanks. That will give me a chuckle all day. The official Sinn Fein line on Scapattici is still “nothing to see here”.

What has an organisation that has been wound up after a conflict/war that is over for over 20 years got to do with current politics?
You wouldn't be trying to deflect away from current events would you?