Happyilylost wrote: » https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-52106843 I'll keep quoting till the penny drops.
christy c wrote: » In the eyes of the law it was, hence the harsher penalty.
joeguevara wrote: » I have no idea what the PSNI are doing because you have not been able to show me the Legislation that has been broken in a published documents. I have no idea what fines have been given. Could have been for anything. Just admit that you don't know what law has been broken and stop quoting newpaper articles that mean nothing.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Mort thinks a SF transgression is worse than any other similar transgression.
Happyilylost wrote: » https://www.thejournal.ie/over-100-coronavirus-related-fines-issued-in-northern-ireland-5073378-Apr2020/ I asked a simple question in my previous post. I'll quote it again.Simple question what "laws" were broken for the PSNI to hand out 100s of fines for breach of regulations in relation to gatherings across NI during the covid19 outbreak? Or are you of the opinion what the PSNI have been doing is illegal?
maccored wrote: » you were talking rubbish. according to you anyone wearing a white shirt and tie are in the ira.
joeguevara wrote: » You still haven't shown me a law. You showed me maximum PSNI powers but you cant have powers without a law. You know those things published by Legislators. With an offence, specified. Is there one of those. I note that you use law and rule interchangeably. That's not how this works.
maccored wrote: » my god - what kind of debating is that? no longer OPERATIONAL means THEY NO LONGER DO ANYTHING regardless if the name is still there or not. A name is a bunch of letters and pretty useless if the body it represents is no longer operational Theres time I wonder how some people can figure out how to open a door.
Truthvader wrote: » I said "pretendy" uniform. Kind of budget Stormtrooper. And thanks again for confirming the Sinn Fein/IRA inextricable link and identity
SafeSurfer wrote: » Being no longer “operational” is not the same as being “wound up”. A company can be no longer operational but until it is wound up it continues to exist.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Members of SF I presume...who do you think they were? A white shirt and tie is a 'uniform' now?
Happyilylost wrote: » Where did I ask for anyone to resign. I'm barely in this thread. It's your comment I noticed. Simple question what "laws" were broken for the PSNI to hand out 100s of fines for breach of regulations in relation to gatherings across NI during the covid19 outbreak? Whatever "laws" they deemed broken during these gatherings is it not possible they deem them broken at this funeral? I don't care about the context of the event as that's not how rules work. You break them you break them. Whether it be a house party piss up of 50 young lads or a funeral of 100s.
Mortelaro wrote: » Sf's Buckleys offence was a tad worse though 3 year driving ban and 3 times over the limit, also on a provisional licence Its very obvious now why SF didn't push the Cowen thing the other day I presume an offence whilst holding office would be a resigning matter Its a pity we can't have squeaky clean mp's but I suppose no country has The right people rarely run for office, they're too busy getting paid properly/enjoying security of tenure for their skills elsewhere
FrancieBrady wrote: » 'Handwaving from die hards'? Michael and Leo have set the template here...this is grand. He served the penalty, owned up...SF should promote him to Minister for State to even things up.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The McArdle Brothers made a film once called 'It's Handy When People Don't Die'. So also could any of the funerals that breached regulations been postponed. Again, SF made mistakes here, they have acknowledged the hurt those mistakes made.Asking them to apologise for having or attending a funeral is about as low as the anti-shinner crowd have stooped. Who here would apologise for attending a funeral?
FrancieBrady wrote: » I'll let you take that up with the relevant independent monitoring bodies who say that the IRA is no longer operational.
Truthvader wrote: » So who were all those people in the pretendy uniforms marching about at the hero Bobby Story's funeral? Was he in the Scouts?
SafeSurfer wrote: » You post this and accuse me of deflecting. Seriously? Also, the IRA has not been “wound up” as you claim.
FrancieBrady wrote: » What has an organisation that has been wound up after a conflict/war that is over for over 20 years got to do with current politics? You wouldn't be trying to deflect away from current events would you?
FrancieBrady wrote: » And if they brought out another crowd for the interring of the ashes ( I assume they are going in the Republican plot) the usual crew would be out complaining. Death and funerals have always been used for orations by political party's. Aren't they still using the grave of WOlfe Tone for political oration.
rdwight wrote: » The major issue with this particular funeral is the timing. The extravaganza part could have been been done this time next year.
rdwight wrote: » You seem a little confused, Bowie. Surprising since one thing we Irish consider ourselves experts on is funerals. Crematoriums are sometimes located in graveyards eg Mount Jerome and Glasnevin in Dublin. In some cases the main funeral service takes place in a church or chapel elsewhere and a short final service is conducted in the crematorium before, as you put it, the coffin goes behind a curtain. Since you don't seem to know what happens then, the answer is that the body is burned. In other cases, particularly for non-religious funerals, the entire service is conducted in the crematorium. The issue with Strorey funeral is that thousands of people went from the church to Milltown cemetery when the crematorium was in fact several miles in a different direction. Turning funerals into political circuses is a well established SF/IRA custom, but doing so in the middle of a pandemic is particularly crass.
SafeSurfer wrote: » A Sinn Fein apologist with with issues about secrecy. Thanks. That will give me a chuckle all day. The official Sinn Fein line on Scapattici is still “nothing to see here”.
McMurphy wrote: » I thought Sinn Fein accepted his apology, the same as Leo and Michaél? You're complaining they're not complaining?
markodaly wrote: » Is it normal that funerals go to a graveyard, even though the body is not to be buried there?
Bowie wrote: » No idea. The coffin goes behind a curtain and everyone leaves.
Bowie wrote: » You seem very sure. All 3 were at a chapel or a room in a cemetery after the church service elsewhere.
christy c wrote: » Isn't SF's thing supposed to be that they represent change? Or are you happy with Micheal and Leo's take on it?
