Masks

What a load of silliness over a piece of cloth that most people will only need to wear for a few minutes every now and then

I was shopping earlier and did a rough head count of how many people were in the supermarket. I counted between 30 and 40, with about 5 mask wearers. No social distancing as such in the store. There was one group of men in their 20s who looked like they were a bunch of friends catching up for a chinwag. One had a mask.

We had 23 new cases of the virus in today's update which is higher than it has been for a while. Hopefully it's a blip but it goes to show that we can't become complacent.

Deleted User wrote: »

A private business has the right to refuse entry to anyone. They don't need to use that kind of language.

Tork wrote: »

I was shopping earlier and did a rough head count of how many people were in the supermarket. I counted between 30 and 40, with about 5 mask wearers. No social distancing as such in the store. There was one group of men in their 20s who looked like they were a bunch of friends catching up for a chinwag. One had a mask.

We had 23 new cases of the virus in today's update which is higher than it has been for a while. Hopefully it's a blip but it goes to show that we can't become complacent.

The HSE have a weekly test programme running, 4000 tests X about 0.5% positivity gives you about 20 cases.
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0617/1147922-coronavirus-ireland/

As for people in supermarkets just stay away from them, I do.

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

A private business has the right to refuse entry to anyone.

They don’t, they are not allowed to discriminate. They need a good reason to refuse entry.

Avoiding supermarkets is not the point and you know it. Covid-19 is highly infectious and can by spread by droplets in the air. The ones expelled from people's mouths even if they're just speaking. They're is more information coming out now to suggest that that is how the virus is largely spread, rather than from surfaces.

Telling people to stay away from the shops and other enclosed areas is a lazy solution to this, just because some folk are too stupid or stubborn to wear a mask. We've been through a lockdown which restricted our movements and continues to impinge on our lives. It'll all have been for nothing of we get a second wave. The numbers were kept down because most of us have been living like battery hens for months. That cannot go on indefinitely and we need to find ways to live with this virus until a vaccine is found. If it means popping on a mask for few minutes while going into the supermarket, so be it. As thing stand, those of us wearing masks are effectively pissing against the wind because most people aren't wearing them.

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

I like the idea of wearing masks just to prevent regular influenza. In fact this is very popular in Japan.
The added benefit if privacy.

In the West we've let all these viruses into our lungs before doing anything about it by way of vaccines. There's lots of other deadly stuff about too such the nitrogen dioxides from motor vehicle exhausts, apart from dirt and dust.

Interestingly since donning a mask, a boards cyclist recently posted in another forum that he no longer suffered from hay fever as a result.

Perhaps we're late to the party on this one, or should I say the ghoulish masked ball, as it's turned out to be.

Tork wrote: »

That is not the point and you know it. Covid-19 is highly infectious and can by spread by droplets in the air. The ones expelled from people's mouths even if they're just speaking. They're is more information coming out now to suggest that that is how the virus is largely spread, rather than from surfaces.

Telling people to stay away from the shops and other enclosed areas is a lazy solution to this, just because some folk are too stupid or stubborn to wear a mask. We've been through a lockdown which restricted our movements and continues to impinge on our lives. It'll all have been for nothing of we get a second wave. The numbers were kept down because most of us have been living like battery hens for months. That cannot go on indefinitely and we need to find ways to live with this virus until a vaccine is found. If it means popping on a mask for few minutes while going into the supermarket, so be it. As thing stand, those of us wearing masks are effectively pissing against the wind because most people aren't wearing them.

My view all along is that it is a personal responsibility, i.e. you. It is an advisory and people choose to interpret that as they see fit. We really have no control over what other people will do and we pay them no heed in normal times so why bother now.

is_that_so wrote: »

My view all along is that it is a personal responsibility, i.e. you. It is just an advisory and people choose to interpret that as they see fit. We really have no control over what other people will do and we pay them no heed in normal times so why bother now.

My observations any time I go into a shop suggest that very few people are wearing masks and aren't taking that responsibility. Sometimes stronger measures need to be taken. Would people really be going shopping with their bags for life if the shops weren't charging 22c for the single use ones? Would we really have no smoking in pubs?

Tork wrote: »

My observations any time I go into a shop suggest that very few people are wearing masks. Sometimes stronger measures need to be taken. Would people really be going shopping with their bags for life if the shops weren't charging 22c for the single use ones? Would we really have no smoking in pubs?

Yeah I see the same thing and I worry about myself, not them. Your two examples were permanent and generally seen as a good thing so they weren't hard to sell. Mask wearing is temporary.