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Is this the end of Democrat front runner Joe Biden?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 notobtuse
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    Same thing we always do, pay attention on what is going on in the world, assess it objectively and take part in discussions relating to it.

    What are you going to do?
    Those are admirable goals. I hope to see them implemented.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 suicide_circus
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    Same thing we always do, pay attention on what is going on in the world, assess it objectively and take part in discussions relating to it.

    What are you going to do?

    laughing hysterically at the next hobbyhorse of the pearl clutching class.

    you'll get an awful shock when it dawns on you that all the problems in the world today predate and will postdate (?) Doland Drumpf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,635 Cody montana
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    So... according to you Republicans are evil? And people have the gall to claim those on the Right are the intolerable ones??? :confused:

    Are you asking me do I think some republican politicians are evil?
    That's an easy yes.

    Do you think Trump will win?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,193 Tell me how
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    laughing hysterically at the next hobbyhorse of the pearl clutching class.

    you'll get an awful shock when it dawns on you that all the problems in the world today predate and will postdate (?) Doland Drumpf

    For every member of the 'pearl clutching class', there's at least one 'bar stool expert' who thinks there is no point in talking about anything, yet can't stop getting involved in the conversation.

    If there's no point in wanting there to be a better world, why do you feel the need in discussing it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 notobtuse
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    Are you asking me do I think some republican politicians are evil?
    That's an easy yes.

    Do you think Trump will win?
    As of today... Yes I do, unless something completely unexpected come up between now and the election.

    And if he doesn’t win... Well, I plan on giving Biden the same level of respect and support that Trump received from the democrats and their media allies from day 1. Probably starting with a 3-year investigation and impeachment process for abuse of power regarding the Ukraine, initially, and if that doesn’t stick keep coming up new accusations to drag the process on indefinitely. Fair is fair, right? :rolleyes:

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 suicide_circus
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    I'm no expert, i just know hysteria and a moral panic when i see one.

    A Biden victory would at least give some perspective. The sun will rise and the world will turn. I'm sick of the endless whinging. Maybe its time for Joe to change the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 notobtuse
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    I'm no expert, i just know hysteria and a moral panic when i see one.

    A Biden victory would at least give some perspective. The sun will rise and the world will turn. I'm sick of the endless whinging. Maybe its time for Joe to change the world.

    ... assuming he remembers where he left it. :p

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,635 Cody montana
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    As of today... Yes I do, unless something completely unexpected come up between now and the election.

    And if he doesn’t win... Well, I plan on giving Biden the same level of respect and support that Trump received from the democrats and their media allies from day 1. Probably starting with a 3-year investigation and impeachment process for abuse of power regarding the Ukraine initially, and if that doesn’t stick keep coming up new accusations to drag the process on indefinitely. Fair is fair, right? :rolleyes:

    You mean, like the GOP did with Obama?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 notobtuse
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    You mean, like the GOP did with Obama?
    Republicans subjected Obama to a 3 year abuse investigation and impeachment hearing and trial???? WTF, nobody tells me nothing.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 Overheal
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Republicans subjected Obama to a 3 year abuse investigation and impeachment hearing and trial???? WTF, nobody tells me nothing.

    More than 4 years of investigations, actually. Investigations through most of his presidency.

    0 indictments though. Hmm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,962 Timberrrrrrrr
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Republicans subjected Obama to a 3 year abuse investigation and impeachment hearing and trial???? WTF, nobody tells me nothing.

    No they went mad about his choice of mustard, or the colour of his suit, or lied about his birthplace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,815 pjohnson
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    Wouldn't be like the diehard Rep's to abuse a democratic president for no reason. I mean the Trump fans were so respectful to Barack BEFORE the lord became president.


    Barack's birth cert was never "real" yet its disrespectful to ask to see Trumps tax returns.

    Big on respect the Trumpians!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,193 Tell me how
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    I'm no expert, i just know hysteria and a moral panic when i see one.

    A Biden victory would at least give some perspective. The sun will rise and the world will turn. I'm sick of the endless whinging. Maybe its time for Joe to change the world.

    Trump has pulled out of the Paris Agreement, pulled out of Iran Nuclear deal, rolled back environmental protections in areas of the US, tried to role back opportunities for children who were born to illegal immigrants, mishandled the Covid-19 response strategy woefully and has provided half a trillion bail out to US Businesses with zero oversight.

    If you think discussing and disagreeing with the above is whinging, then it is because you are lucky enough to not be affected by any of these decisions, or don't have any empathy for those who have been.

    But it is certainly not because of any greater perspective or insight in to how the world works no matter how much you think it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,193 Tell me how
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Republicans subjected Obama to a 3 year abuse investigation and impeachment hearing and trial???? WTF, nobody tells me nothing.

    You choosing to ignore something is not the same as people telling you nothing.

    What do you think of the response from some corners after 4 Americans were killed in Benghazi versus the response from the same corners after 120K died from Covid-19?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 suicide_circus
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    democracy's a bitch

    as Donald may well find out in November


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,815 pjohnson
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    democracy's a bitch

    as Donald may well find out in November

    Democracy isn't what Donnie faces. Its only the Electoral College that matters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 notobtuse
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    No they went mad about his choice of mustard, or the colour of his suit, or lied about his birthplace.
    Ah, now I understand. You give equal weight to those things and an impeachment.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,635 Cody montana
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    As of today... Yes I do, unless something completely unexpected come up between now and the election.

    And if he doesn’t win... Well, I plan on giving Biden the same level of respect and support that Trump received from the democrats and their media allies from day 1. Probably starting with a 3-year investigation and impeachment process for abuse of power regarding the Ukraine, initially, and if that doesn’t stick keep coming up new accusations to drag the process on indefinitely. Fair is fair, right? :rolleyes:
    You mean, like the GOP did with Obama?
    notobtuse wrote: »
    Republicans subjected Obama to a 3 year abuse investigation and impeachment hearing and trial???? WTF, nobody tells me nothing.

    Mitch McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
    Never mind all the republican obstruction regarding Obama.
    Including the Birther movement, supported by Trump.
    Where was the respect and support?

    I know your modus operandi.
    It will be a diversion to something else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 goose2005
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    lads what will yee do with your lives if Trump loses? Gonna have to find another bogieman to twist your knickers over.
    the U.S. will go on as normal but with a slightly more polite idiot in charge


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 notobtuse
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    You choosing to ignore something is not the same as people telling you nothing.

    What do you think of the response from some corners after 4 Americans were killed in Benghazi versus the response from the same corners after 120K died from Covid-19?
    Thank goodness Trump acted early or the body count from the coronavirus, with origins in China, could have been 2 million, especially with idiot governors in New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and others sending nursing home patients to their deaths.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,193 Tell me how
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Thank goodness Trump acted early or the body count from the coronavirus, with origins in China, could have been 2 million, especially with idiot governors in New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and others sending nursing home patients to their deaths.

    1/10.

    Yawn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,962 Timberrrrrrrr
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Ah, now I understand. You give equal weight to those things and an impeachment.

    Nope

    Trump deserved the media coverage obama did not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 notobtuse
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    Something is really hokey will all these polls. A recent Zogby International of “likely voters” shows 55 percent believe Joe Biden is in the early stages of dementia. In other polls they find Biden leads Trump by as much as a 50-38 percent margin in the race for president. I know there is not a direct correlation between the two types of polls, but there is some correlation, nonetheless. If the majority of voters believe Biden is in the early states of dementia there is no way they’re going to vote him in as president.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ohnonotgmail
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Something is really hokey will all these polls. A recent Zogby International of “likely voters” shows 55 percent believe Joe Biden is in the early stages of dementia. In other polls they find Biden leads Trump by as much as a 50-38 percent margin in the race for president. I know there is not a direct correlation between the two types of polls, but there is some correlation, nonetheless. If the majority of voters believe Biden is in the early states of dementia there is no way they’re going to vote him in as president.

    there are a number of polls that show biden with a significant lead. you say there is another poll that asks a very different question that casts doubts on the other polls. perhaps it is the poll you refer to that is wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 notobtuse
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    there are a number of polls that show biden with a significant lead. you say there is another poll that asks a very different question that casts doubts on the other polls. perhaps it is the poll you refer to that is wrong?
    Maybe, maybe not. You can't deny there is a lot of talk about Joe Biden having dementia. Google "Joe Biden dementia" and you'll see almost 8 millions results.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ohnonotgmail
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Maybe, maybe not. You can't deny there is a lot of talk about Joe Biden having dementia. Google "Joe Biden dementia" and you'll see almost 8 millions results.

    certainly a lot of talk from you about it. From my own direct experience with dementia i dont see it. oddly you never seem to mention trumps cognitive decline. he looked like a broken man when he returned to the white house after his failed Tulsa rally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,136 eldamo
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    If the majority of voters believe Biden is in the early states of dementia there is no way they’re going to vote him in as president.


    can't believe I am going to wade into such a s**t show as this thread, but to be honest, i think a lot of americans would vote for a can of spam over trump at the moment,



    whether or not biden is suffering from dementia, he is an elderly man, as such his choice of running mate could be key.


    That said, trump vs spam. SPAM 2020!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,175 Loafing Oaf
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Maybe, maybe not. You can't deny there is a lot of talk about Joe Biden having dementia.

    Similar suspicions didn't stop Americans electing Reagan twice...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 notobtuse
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    certainly a lot of talk from you about it. From my own direct experience with dementia i dont see it. oddly you never seem to mention trumps cognitive decline. he looked like a broken man when he returned to the white house after his failed Tulsa rally.
    So, it would now be fair game to sabotage Biden's rallies and events going forward?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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