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Is this the end of Democrat front runner Joe Biden?

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    #692
    Fiery mutant
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    To achieve what? The glaring fact you’re missing here is that, the TikTok crews were never gonna go to a rally anyway, so even if they didn’t register for this event, the only people who were ever gonna actually go, went.

    Either way, it was always gonna be a **** attendance. And that’s because of Trump, and no one else.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



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    #693
    baaba maal
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    So, it would now be fair game to sabotage Biden's rallies and events going forward?

    Sabotaging the event would have meant stopping it from going ahead. Literally anyone who wanted to attend could have done so. They (tik tockers or whatever they are called) certainly humiliated him, but they didn't interfere with his right to hold one of his embarrassing rallies.


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    #694
    notobtuse
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    Fiery mutant wrote: »
    To achieve what? The glaring fact you’re missing here is that, the TikTok crews were never gonna go to a rally anyway, so even if they didn’t register for this event, the only people who were ever gonna actually go, went.

    Either way, it was always gonna be a **** attendance. And that’s because of Trump, and no one else.
    Fact is thousands of useless kids reserved tickets to Trump's rally and then purposefully didn't show up to the event. But Trump is still a winner in this because his data operation now has the largest contact list of any other politician.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #695
    Overheal
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Fact is thousands of useless kids reserved tickets to Trump's rally and then purposefully didn't show up to the event. But Trump is still a winner in this because his data operation now has the largest contact list of any other politician.

    The contact list is useless. Besides being full of teens and k pop fans that list all but certainly violates COPPA. They’ll probably have to discard the whole database.


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    #696
    notobtuse
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    baaba maal wrote: »
    Sabotaging the event would have meant stopping it from going ahead. Literally anyone who wanted to attend could have done so. They (tik tockers or whatever they are called) certainly humiliated him, but they didn't interfere with his right to hold one of his embarrassing rallies.
    No, that is not what sabotaging means. People could sabotage a Biden event by simply asking him questions he isn't prepared for just to see him flounder and sound incoherent... you know the type... Dog faced pony soldiers.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #697
    ohnonotgmail
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Fact is thousands of useless kids reserved tickets to Trump's rally and then purposefully didn't show up to the event. But Trump is still a winner in this because his data operation now has the largest contact list of any other politician.

    yeah that contact list of KPop stans will be really useful to him


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    #698
    ohnonotgmail
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    So, it would now be fair game to sabotage Biden's rallies and events going forward?

    if trump fans want to go ahead and register for a biden event and not turn up i wouldn't have an issue with it. it is all fair game. it would make no difference to the number that turned up. the same way that people registering for trumps event and not turning up made no difference to the number who did turn up. anybody that wanted to go could have gone.


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    #699
    notobtuse
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    yeah that contact list of KPop stans will be really useful to him
    Not all 1,000,000 people who registered for tickets were KPop kids. And it will be a touch of irony when those KPop kids start getting inundated with email blasts from dozens of political sources. I wonder when that happens if they will think it was worth it?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #700
    Overheal
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Not all 1,000,000 people who registered for tickets were KPop kids. And it will be a touch of irony when those KPop kids start getting inundated with email blasts from dozens of political sources. I wonder when that happens if they will think it was worth it?

    https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/rules/rulemaking-regulatory-reform-proceedings/childrens-online-privacy-protection-rule


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    #701
    ohnonotgmail
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Not all 1,000,000 people who registered for tickets were KPop kids. And it will be a touch of irony when those KPop kids start getting inundated with email blasts from dozens of political sources. I wonder when that happens if they will think it was worth it?

    yeah a couple of emails is really going to bother them. :D assuming they even used a genuine address.

    Of course the big problem with that data collection is that they didnt ask if the people registering were over 13 so they will have to scrub the whole database. you cant store information on children without their parents permission

    and they are KPop stans not kids. get with the lingo daddio.


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    #702
    notobtuse
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    if trump fans want to go ahead and register for a biden event and not turn up i wouldn't have an issue with it. it is all fair game. it would make no difference to the number that turned up. the same way that people registering for trumps event and not turning up made no difference to the number who did turn up. anybody that wanted to go could have gone.
    Oh, there’s many underhanded ways to sabotage rallies and events. And since democrat politicians have supported sabotage efforts, I guess everything is now fair game. They are the ones who opened Pandora’s Box.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #703
    notobtuse
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    yeah a couple of emails is really going to bother them. :D assuming they even used a genuine address.

    Of course the big problem with that data collection is that they didnt ask if the people registering were over 13 so they will have to scrub the whole database. you cant store information on children without their parents permission
    They had to be genuine addresses otherwise they wouldn't have received tickets. Do you know for absolute fact they didn't have to acknowledge that they were over 18? Backup to the claim would be helpful.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #704
    prinzeugen
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Not all 1,000,000 people who registered for tickets were KPop kids. And it will be a touch of irony when those KPop kids start getting inundated with email blasts from dozens of political sources. I wonder when that happens if they will think it was worth it?


    As already posted, keeping the details is a breach of Children's Online Privacy Protection Act.



    Some idiot in the Trump campaign also forgot to put a "I confirm I am over 18" check box on the registration site.


    They will have to dump the lot or potentially face a fine of $18,000 per minor.


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    #705
    ohnonotgmail
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    They had to be genuine addresses otherwise they wouldn't have received tickets. Do you know for absolute fact they didn't have to acknowledge that they were over 18? Backup to the claim would be helpful.

    I do know for an absolute fact that they didnt ask. somebody posted a screenshot of the signup form on twitter.


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    #706
    notobtuse
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    prinzeugen wrote: »
    As already posted, keeping the details is a breach of Children's Online Privacy Protection Act.



    Some idiot in the Trump campaign also forgot to put a "I confirm I am over 18" check box on the registration site.


    They will have to dump the lot or potentially face a fine of $18,000 per minor.
    I'm not saying you are wrong about the being 18 disclaimer claim, I'm just not finding it anywhere. Please provide some sources for the claim.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #707
    notobtuse
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    I do know for an absolute fact that they didnt ask. somebody posted a screenshot of the signup form on twitter.
    There are several layers to signing up. A screenshot of one segment proves very little.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #708
    amdublin
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    My God that Tulsa rally was a horror show.

    Bad turnout.
    Horrific speech - divisive, xenophobic, irrelevant, BORING (how boring was that story about the ramp), foolish (the Boeing story), big cheers for the man who drinks water from a glass, pure and utter sh1te

    Hey, I saw this on twitter but so true: you can be sure when Trump starts a story with a little sketch starting with "SIR!" the rest of it is untrue.
    "SIR! twitter, twatter, waffle, waffle, bullsh1t, bullsh1t"

    The end is nigh Trump, the end is nigh


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    #709
    notobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Joe Biden continues to be the candidate with no campaign. Keeping him out of the public eye, as much as possible, so he can’t make an even bigger fool out of himself seems to currently be a winning strategy for democrats. How sad is that?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #710
    Brian?
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    pauldavis123 wrote: »
    This is Joe Biden 2 days ago in Philadelphia

    UGMUJ262NNA6LF7GL5T2WZOTVY.jpg

    There are currently over a million people looking to attend the next Trump rally in Tulsa.

    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    This post didn’t age well.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #711
    ohnonotgmail
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    There are several layers to signing up. A screenshot of one segment proves very little.

    this page shows the registration screen

    https://hillreporter.com/did-trump-campaign-violate-coppa-law-thats-a-question-71289


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    #712
    ohnonotgmail
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Joe Biden continues to be the candidate with no campaign. Keeping him out of the public eye, as much as possible, so he can’t make an even bigger fool out of himself seems to currently be a winning strategy for democrats. How sad is that?

    not as sad as saying that 1 million people wanted to come to your rally and 6 or 7,000 turning up.


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    #713
    notobtuse
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    Brian? wrote: »
    This post didn’t age well.
    Wee, it does show enthusiasm for Biden is at an all time high. :p

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #714
    ohnonotgmail
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Wee, it does show enthusiasm for Biden is at an all time high. :p

    did he claim that 1 million people would turn up?


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    #715
    notobtuse
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    this page shows the registration screen

    https://hillreporter.com/did-trump-campaign-violate-coppa-law-thats-a-question-71289
    From that it does look bad for Trump. But were there other levels to get through, in order to register for the tickets, that you needed to acknowledge you were over 18?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #716
    ohnonotgmail
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    From that it does look bad for Trump. But were there other levels to get through, in order to register for the tickets, that you needed to acknowledge you were over 18?

    you would think if there were then somebody on trumps team would have mentioned it in response by now.


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    #717
    notobtuse
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    did he claim that 1 million people would turn up?
    Don't know. I was commenting on Biden enthusiasm.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #718
    ohnonotgmail
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Don't know. I was commenting on Biden enthusiasm.

    you mean he isn't jacked up on adderall like trump is?


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    #719
    odyssey06
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Joe Biden continues to be the candidate with no campaign. Keeping him out of the public eye, as much as possible, so he can’t make an even bigger fool out of himself seems to currently be a winning strategy for democrats. How sad is that?

    It worked in the primaries... after all the end is not in sight yet and he's no longer the front runner he is the presumptive candidate.
    Seems like it will be a risk averse campaign.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #720
    notobtuse
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you mean he isn't jacked up on adderall like trump is?
    Don't know if he's jacked up on adderall... But is he even awake in the picture? Or is everyone waiting until he wakes from his siesta to ask the next question?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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    #721
    ohnonotgmail
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    notobtuse wrote: »
    Don't know if he's jacked up on adderall... But is he even awake in the picture? Or is everyone waiting until he wakes from his siesta to ask the next question?

    very easy to look like your eyes are closed in a still photograph. is that really the best you can come up with? the trump campaign is getting desperate.


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