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    #6272
    TigerTim
    Registered Users Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭TigerTim


    Ciarrai76 wrote: »
    I don't know who is going to enforce that as there are often kids in there with no adults!

    Or so-called adults with no kids:D

    T.


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    #6273
    Ciarrai76
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ciarrai76


    I just read on Bailey's corner's facebook page that apparently there will be free parking in all council carparks from July 1st between 9am-11am. I don't know where they found that out as I can't see any other info on it.


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    #6274
    kev_Makaveli
    Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭kev_Makaveli


    Ciarrai76 wrote: »
    I just read on Bailey's corner's facebook page that apparently there will be free parking in all council carparks from July 1st between 9am-11am. I don't know where they found that out as I can't see any other info on it.


    Is it true that the traffic wardens were working right through lock-down. If true its a joke, the country on its knees financially and they hand out fines to people.


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    #6275
    Quackster
    Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    I wonder will the corrent global movement extend to Tralee and confront the issue of Mitchel's GAA club being named after an avowed racist and anti-Semite?

    It certainly makes me rather uncomfortable to say the least.


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    #6276
    Panda Killa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭Panda Killa


    Quackster wrote: »
    I wonder will the corrent global movement extend to Tralee and confront the issue of Mitchel's GAA club being named after an avowed racist and anti-Semite?

    It certainly makes me rather uncomfortable to say the least.

    Anti-Semite? He'd fit right in with Sinn Féin's modern day thinking sure


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    #6277
    bobdcow
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    kev_Makaveli wrote: »
    Is it true that the traffic wardens were working right through lock-down. If true its a joke, the country on its knees financially and they hand out fines to people.

    They were working - they did a good few days in Rath graveyard pickup up rubbish, I believe they were patrolling town and moving on cars that were parked badly and/or dangerously. I'm not sure if they were fining cars like they usually did.


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    #6278
    Ciarrai76
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ciarrai76


    So there will be free parking from 9am - 11am from July 1st. There will also be 15 minutes grace when parking so you can run into bank or shop to collect something.

    I did hear that parking seems to be free in town at the moment and has been throughout the pandemic. Apparently they have only been fining those parked illegally. I saw the rock street post office even said its free parking at the moment. I don't know if that means it will be until the 1st July? I would be afraid to risk it!

    A few other items have been announced from the recent council meeting, including that they won't be closing off Russel street to traffic. They also won't be charging businesses a licence fee to put out tables and chairs for the rest of the year.

    A few other items have been announced from the recent council meeting, including that they won't be closing off Russel street to traffic.

    http://traleetoday.ie/free-parking-period-and-grace-periods-in-council-car-parks-from-july-1/?fbclid=IwAR1Hj-9s6v9PHcqijj2diS-5Dz0GpaCm4c00qIbKgXvBpiwmeyCWELN755Y


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    #6279
    BPKS
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    Quackster wrote: »
    I wonder will the corrent global movement extend to Tralee and confront the issue of Mitchel's GAA club being named after an avowed racist and anti-Semite?

    It certainly makes me rather uncomfortable to say the least.

    LOL - I was waiting for this.

    I'd say John Mitchels will be fine.

    The permanently offended will move onto the next trendy cause soon enough.


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    #6280
    Quackster
    Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    BPKS wrote: »
    LOL - I was waiting for this.

    I'd say John Mitchels will be fine.

    The permanently offended will move onto the next trendy cause soon enough.
    Should people never question the status quo?

    I'm sure black members of the club will be rather uncomfortable when they learn about who their club is named after. Which they will sooner or later as I just heard the issue raised now on Newstalk.

    BTW, laughing at a post that you don't agree with is not a valid form of argument.


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    #6281
    BPKS
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    Quackster wrote: »
    Should people never question the status quo?

    I'm sure black members of the club will be rather uncomfortable when they learn about who their club is named after. Which they will sooner or later as I just heard the issue raised now on Newstalk.

    BTW, laughing at a post that you don't agree with is not a valid form of argument.

    If it was on Newstalk "now" (at 12.50) then it was on Ciara Kellys show which is exactly what I'd expect from that show.

    No problem questioning the status quo but I happen to think this is ridiculous. Parnells will have to change their name because of something CS Parnell did 140 years ago. Same with clubs named after Michael Davitt. Did The O'Rahilly do something to upset the permanently offended in 1916 that would cause all the Rahillys teams to change their names. Where do we stop?

    Anyway, I have no doubt that this whole nonsense will die down and that the Mitchels wont be changing their name to some airy-fairy PC friendly name anytime soon.

    BTW - I would find it equally ridiculous if people in Offaly wanted to change the name of Obama Plaza because of the countless civilians killed by US forces during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan during his term.


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    #6282
    kn
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    Quackster wrote: »
    I wonder will the corrent global movement extend to Tralee and confront the issue of Mitchel's GAA club being named after an avowed racist and anti-Semite?

    It certainly makes me rather uncomfortable to say the least.

    https://www.newstalk.com/news/want-katie-hopkins-gaa-around-country-call-name-change-john-mitchel-clubs-1029212

    They can go and **** off!! :mad:

    Maybe they want the Mitchel's renamed the Martin Luther King Junior's?


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    #6283
    newman10
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    Quackster wrote: »
    I wonder will the corrent global movement extend to Tralee and confront the issue of Mitchel's GAA club being named after an avowed racist and anti-Semite?

    It certainly makes me rather uncomfortable to say the least.

    No country is without its issues regarding racism and please acknowledge the racism the Irish suffered in both the UK and US, we are not perfect and we also are far from the worst. It's quite obvious you were never pulled aside at a UK Airport, abusively questioned because you had a Gaelic name on your passport, or traveled the tube getting "looks" because of your "Oirish" accent

    If you wish to question history, please have a look at the history of FG and Eoin O Duffy, a Facist, anti-semite who offered his "troops" to Franco and also attempted to raise a force to fight alongside the Nazis in the Eastern Front

    Or WT Cosgrave who sent a message to Mussolini after his attempted assassination or the tweet sent in the last few days by this guy in Dublin

    We cannot rewrite history, but if we are not willing to learn from it, we fail

    https://twitter.com/christineomg5/status/1270456353660731398

    https://www.theirishstory.com/2012/05/18/the-blueshirts-fascism-in-ireland/


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    #6284
    newman10
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    Quackster wrote: »
    I wonder will the corrent global movement extend to Tralee and confront the issue of Mitchel's GAA club being named after an avowed racist and anti-Semite?

    It certainly makes me rather uncomfortable to say the least.

    I forgot DeValera signing the book of condolences for Hitler


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    #6285
    newman10
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    Quackster wrote: »
    I wonder will the corrent global movement extend to Tralee and confront the issue of Mitchel's GAA club being named after an avowed racist and anti-Semite?

    It certainly makes me rather uncomfortable to say the least.

    Or maybe this !!

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/eamon-ryan-apologises-for-using-n-word-in-dail-while-calling-for-inclusivity-1004672.html


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    #6286
    kn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭kn


    newman10 wrote: »
    I forgot DeValera signing the book of condolences for Hitler

    Shouldn't he be disinterned from Glasnevin and buried in an unmarked grave??


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    #6287
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users Posts: 5,803 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    kn wrote: »
    https://www.newstalk.com/news/want-katie-hopkins-gaa-around-country-call-name-change-john-mitchel-clubs-1029212

    They can go and **** off!! :mad:

    Maybe they want the Mitchel's renamed the Martin Luther King Junior's?

    TBF, Daniel O'Connell was a fairly vocal opponent of slavery, and spoke on the same platform as the African-American Frederick Douglass, long before Mitchel.


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    #6288
    Quackster
    Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    TBF, Daniel O'Connell was a fairly vocal opponent of slavery, and spoke on the same platform as the African-American Frederick Douglass, long before Mitchel.
    Very true.

    History is continually evolving, just because something was acceptable to previous generations doesn't necessarily make it acceptable now.

    Nothing wrong with having a robust discussion, indeed it is a fundamental aspect of a healthy democracy. So it is rather concerning when some people get worked up and hysterical at the merest mention of this issue!

    Regardless, the decision on their name ultimately rests with the members of the club itself.


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    #6289
    cms88
    Registered Users Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭cms88


    BPKS wrote: »
    If it was on Newstalk "now" (at 12.50) then it was on Ciara Kellys show which is exactly what I'd expect from that show.

    No problem questioning the status quo but I happen to think this is ridiculous. Parnells will have to change their name because of something CS Parnell did 140 years ago. Same with clubs named after Michael Davitt. Did The O'Rahilly do something to upset the permanently offended in 1916 that would cause all the Rahillys teams to change their names. Where do we stop?

    Anyway, I have no doubt that this whole nonsense will die down and that the Mitchels wont be changing their name to some airy-fairy PC friendly name anytime soon.

    BTW - I would find it equally ridiculous if people in Offaly wanted to change the name of Obama Plaza because of the countless civilians killed by US forces during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan during his term.

    What needs to happen is someone to come and tell them to go **** themselves and might sort it out fairly fast!


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    #6290
    Quackster
    Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    cms88 wrote: »
    What needs to happen is someone to come and tell them to go **** themselves and might sort it out fairly fast!
    That would be a very intelligent response! :rolleyes:


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    #6291
    cms88
    Registered Users Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭cms88


    Quackster wrote: »
    That would be a very intelligent response! :rolleyes:

    Why not? If they were to change their name would the 10 county championships they've won just disaper from the history books? The 5 in a row they won? They've been playing as John Mitchels for since the 1930's yet it's only now an issue..


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    #6292
    fuerte1976
    Closed Accounts Posts: 692 ✭✭✭fuerte1976


    cms88 wrote: »
    Why not? If they were to change their name would the 10 county championships they've won just disaper from the history books? The 5 in a row they won? They've been playing as John Mitchels for since the 1930's yet it's only now an issue..

    I agree, and I'm not a Mitchels bot..


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    #6293
    Quackster
    Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    cms88 wrote: »
    Why not? If they were to change their name would the 10 county championships they've won just disaper from the history books? The 5 in a row they won? They've been playing as John Mitchels for since the 1930's yet it's only now an issue..
    Well that is a reasoned argument against changing the name and I see merit in it.

    I would say though that 1930's Tralee would have been a vastly more monochromatic environment to what it is today. It was a time though when lots of placenames around Ireland, including Tralee streets, were changed to fit in with changed sensibilities.

    Anyway, I think I better leave my opinion on the matter there least I completely derail the thread! :eek:


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    #6294
    bobdcow
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    There is a post by the chamber alliance that Mothercare in Manor is gone - due to covid they will close all their shops.


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    #6295
    Panda Killa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭Panda Killa


    bobdcow wrote: »
    There is a post by the chamber alliance that Mothercare in Manor is gone - due to covid they will close all their shops.

    Gone into liquidation..
    Pandora in town is gone...only store closing as far as I'm aware


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    #6296
    cms88
    Registered Users Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭cms88


    Panda Killa wrote: »
    Gone into liquidation..
    Pandora in town is gone...only store closing as far as I'm aware

    No surprise really as there was rarely anyone in there


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    #6297
    g1983d
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    bobdcow wrote: »
    There is a post by the chamber alliance that Mothercare in Manor is gone - due to covid they will close all their shops.

    Dont think they can blame covid, a bit like debenhams, been on the cards for a while


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    #6298
    Ciarrai76
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ciarrai76


    I did see someone say mothercare was gone on tralee do you know a few days ago and people said it wasn't as it was just the UK ones last year. Apparently they were owned separately. Sad to see another business close. I needed to get a new car seat for my little boy too! As for Pandora, I have never been inside the door and was always wondering how the kept going. Tralee didn't seem like the right place for them to be really. I think any jewellers could sell Pandora, so a stand alone shop didn't make sense in a small town.

    Sad for the staff though, not nice for them.


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    #6299
    BPKS
    Registered Users Posts: 16,778 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Was in Tralee recently for the first time since the end of March - whats the story with the circus trucks out by the Rose Hotel.

    Were they there before the lockdown and just abandoned ship?


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    #6300
    ongarboy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    BPKS wrote: »
    Was in Tralee recently for the first time since the end of March - whats the story with the circus trucks out by the Rose Hotel.

    Were they there before the lockdown and just abandoned ship?

    There was quite a bit about it in the news recently. See article below. What was nice to hear was the generosity of the people of Tralee who were kind enough to make food and other donations to help them out during their crisis.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0507/1137136-circus-kerry/


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    #6301
    Ciarrai76
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 9,344 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ciarrai76


    BPKS wrote: »
    Was in Tralee recently for the first time since the end of March - whats the story with the circus trucks out by the Rose Hotel.

    Were they there before the lockdown and just abandoned ship?

    They had to stay here the entire time. The council had to sort them out with electricity and people helped with food for them as they had literally no income. They were only in town about a week before they got stuck in lockdown. Must have been a tough few months for them. They will be able to leave at the end of the month.


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