Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We have a travel ban it makes no difference where we are.

We don't really though. There's nothing to stop anyone getting on a flight if they want.

Again you compared us to New Zealand, going to back that up with anything?

Deleted User wrote: »

Seems you all have your own little clique going on in here. Surround yourself only with people who agree with you and chase off anyone with a differing opinion. This right here is the problem with the internet.

Believe me there is no clique in here. Take a read of even the last few pages and you will see people disagreeing with each other.

When you post opinions based on nothing people will call you out on it. This happens in life in general.

But feel free to insult me in your reply.

So the latest from the WHO is that asymptomatic transmission is rare. At this stage I think its safe to disregard anything they say as they inevitably backtrack on it a few weeks later!


https://apnews.com/5a983189412c8383c74d1425719975c7

Deleted User wrote: »

It was just mentioned that its impossible to eradicate the virus but clearly not. I dont care where they are, what difference does it make? Were not exactly an international hub.

Except we are an international hub, look at our economy based on many foreign tech companies investing and setting up here in the last 10+ years.

Look at Dublin Airport, the 6th largest hub for connecting Europe to North America in Europe, Dublin airport was the 20th busiest airport for international passengers in the world last year.

Look at our tourism industry which brings in 11m+ international tourists every year vs New Zealands 3.8m tourists.

We're an international hub whether we like it or not, much more connected to the world and different population centers than NZ, cut that out and our economy would be even more f**ked than it already is.

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Isn't it odd that we haven't seen increasing case numbers with more social mixing recently?

Denmark began reopening mid April. Gyms open and Bars and restaurants have been very busy for the past three weeks (with not very strict social distancing) and their numbers are still slowly coming down daily.

Gael23 wrote: »

Tony says the mission had not been accomplished

Instilling more fear and panic as usual

Yep and it worked, when my doomsday mother listened to him she started mouthing off everyones gonna get the virus they are all in the shops spreading it!! FML

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Any evidence anywhere on this thread or any other thread of any poster ever being disappointed with lower cases or deaths? If not stfu with this ridiculous ****e

Yeah we all know there are certain posters who get off on posting the death rates when a place is in the midst of an outbreak but are nowhere to be seen when things get better. New york for example. We were getting daily death updates, now not a mention. Same with Italy and Spain. In fact, now that things are getting better in most places they are nowhere to be seen except to pop in occasionally to warn of the mythical second wave or other unsubstantiated fear mongering (such as the virus laying dormant for years and "activating". Lol)

Its painfully obvious what their game is.

bb1234567 wrote: »

I am saying as far as we know measures such as that are far more likely to have contributed to the decline either mostly or totally given it is a novel virus with an unknown epidimioligical life cycle. Do you think it is smart to say that it probably disappeared based on an unproven theory rather than measures introduced at the beginning of the outbreak that we know help to prevent transmission of respiratory virus? What kind of message do you think that would send it we stood by that belief?

When was the beginning of the outbreak?

Covid19 may have been circulating in Ireland since December 2019.

Measures you say contributed to the decline were only introduced as the peak number of infections was in the downward phase of the pandemic, of which is still continuing now into single digits.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

People are still getting the virus. An increase in close contact transmission and clusters in households. Stats we saw when it was starting.

Eradicate it completely as in no known cases for a week and you can abolish all social distancing. I dont think we were far off it, it's a pity.

The increase in close contact transmission in private households is down to the change in testing where all close contacts now get tested twice. So basically this has all been happening since the beginning but you needed symptoms to get a test, so likely lots of cases missed.

Even with this increased amount of testing, the numbers are still going down.

Tenzor07 wrote: »

When was the beginning of the outbreak?

Covid19 may have been circulating in Ireland since December 2019.

Measures you say contributed to the decline were only introduced as the peak number of infections was in the downward phase of the pandemic, of which is still continuing now into single digits.

It's extremely unlikely, no increase in excess death before March,no increase in numbers of influenza like illnesses before March, in fact it was a particularly mild flu season this winter in both Ireland and across Europe ,likely very low number of people with antibodies based on results of antibody tests on the mainland. Your argument relies on a number of very unknown pieces of information and is very unconvincing

is_that_so wrote: »

Didn't Phillip Nolan suggest that it was all but gone from the community? Most recent cases seem to have come from meat factories.

Philip Nolan told us that on 23rd April - over six weeks ago. Transmission in general population has been effectively zero for more than six weeks.

Packed beaches and beauty spots, a couple of marches and how many bank holidays later and people still waiting on the surge.

bb1234567 wrote: »

I hate to bring in worst case scenario examples into these disucssions but statements such as that are just so ignorant and grating. Iran has experienced an epidemic for months now and it finally waned, only now to appear with a great resurgence in cases yet again when measures were totally relaxed. So, no , the virus does not just disappear on it's own, and will obviously not disappear for good unless we maintain a cautious stance. You seriously think this is going to be gone from Brazil in a few weeks left to it's own devices like it did in ireland because of all we have done to stop it, honestly? I think that is insane

Comparing Ireland, a well developed European country and one of the more affluent in the world with places like Iran, where the medical system is probably using 20 or 30 year old ventilators due to severe US led Sanctions, and little or no PPE for medical staff, along with no restrictions on the large numbers of Chinese who travel to Iran.
And Brazil led by a mad man, 13 million Brazilians live in favelas, often with more than three people per room and little access to clean water. Physical distancing and hygiene recommendations are near impossible to follow in these environments..