Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

Beasty

The longest thread title to date (XVIII is a big number:pac:), so blank spaces cut back further

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And now a maths lesson:
“Average” is a non-defined term. “Mean” and “Median” are both mathematically defined terms.
Mean = the sum of a series of numbers divided by the number of items in the series
Hence the Mean of 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 7, 8 = (1+2+3+3+4+7+8)/7 = 4
Median is the midpoint number. In the above example it’s the 4th number in the sequence of 7 numbers – in this case 3
Both numbers are examples of “averages”. Not every average is the “Mean”, not every average is the “Median”, but every “Mean” and every “Median” number is an average

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Beasty

And now for a bit more Alice (well two for the price of one)

I'm eighteen and I don't know what I want
Eighteen I just don't know what I want
Eighteen I gotta get away
I gotta get out of this place
I'll go runnin' in outer space oh yeah



Out for summer
Out till fall
We might not go back at all

School's out forever
School's out for summer
School's out with fever
School's out completely

Beasty

This is a curve:



This is a flattened curve:

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An idea if pharmacy staff are coming down with covid in larger numbers? I was in a chemist shop today and all the staff were milling about without masks on. Its a place where sick people will likely visit and certainly the families of possible covid patients. Interesting to know if they are disproportionately effected.

Renjit

So, this thread is the last thread?

Beasty

Renjit wrote: »

So, this thread is the last thread?

The last one.....


.....for now

Andrew00

When will the betting shops reopen

Beasty

Andrew00 wrote: »

When will the betting shops reopen

Phase 2 - 3/1
phase 3 - 2/1
phase 4 - evens
phase 5 - 1/2

Quantum Erasure

https://hwnews.in/international/new-zealand-discharges-last-covid-patient-hospital/138063

New Zealand Discharges Its Last COVID Patient From Hospital,
the nation goes 6 days without any new case and has only 21 active cases.

WoollyRedHat

This thread is the penultimate thread, next thread will be the last one hopefully, nineteenth thread, Covid 19, it's a numbers game people.

WoollyRedHat

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

This thread is the penultimate thread, next thread will be the last one hopefully, nineteenth thread, Covid 19, it's a numbers game people.

Simon Harris approves this message

WoollyRedHat

AdamD wrote: »

Simon Harris approves this message

Simon Says

Beasty

Beasty wrote: »

This is a curve:



This is a flattened curve:

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Have you tried this one in the restrictions thread, you could probably give one or two of them an aneurysm trying to argue against it. 😀

fritzelly

Beasty wrote: »

This is a curve:



This is a flattened curve:

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And this is seasonal coronavirus curve

ACitizenErased

26,000 new cases in Brazil today. Crazy numbers.

s1ippy

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/loss-of-sense-of-smell-and-loss-of-taste-confirmed-as-coronavirus-symptoms-39242179.html

It really has been a long time coming for this case definition to be included. Over 50% of people diagnosed report experiencing it. Hopefully this will mean that more people finally have access to testing.

Imagine if this was the last thread for some reason. Ha! Cool.

fritzelly

ACitizenErased wrote: »

26,000 new cases in Brazil today. Crazy numbers.

Compare to the USA (considering healthcare etc) really not that different

snowgal

I really rethink we’ve another good few to go yet! It’ll be like the song that never ends....

Rob A. Bank

sheepsh4gger

Thank god for Karen patrol:

This is their natural habitat, like fish in water.



Funny, I went to Tesco as late as possible to avoid crowds and every normie was out on the street. A gang of teenagers set off some alarms, cops arrived to talk to them.


Last time there was a crisis like this they demolished a Lidl in Tallaght so I guess it's just a matter of time.

Renjit

ACitizenErased wrote: »

26,000 new cases in Brazil today. Crazy numbers.

Bolsonaro is corona hoax slayer

sheepsh4gger

fritzelly wrote: »

And this is seasonal coronavirus curve

And this is the jannie's curve when he bans people:




Scribbles in Microsoft Paint are not science.

branie2

Thank you for this

sheepsh4gger

eagle eye

Here's hoping that there's loads of good news in this thread.

stephenjmcd

Just posting this here incase anyone missed out at the end of the last thread and doesn't go back on it.

HSE Operations report released for 28th May and it's all good news.

As of 18:30 there were 45 confirmed covid cases in ICU, down from 48 yesterday and no ICU deaths recorded between 10am yesteday and 10am today. 30 on ventilators down from 32.

As of 8pm there were 193 confirmed cases in acute hospitals down from 233, a drop of 40 in 24hrs.

8 cases diagnosed in hosptial settings in the last 24hrs.

sheepsh4gger

I can't wait until they make it mandatory to wear masks in Tesco. I will do a full Half Life metro cop cosplay

sheepsh4gger

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Just posting this here incase anyone missed out at the end of the last thread and doesn't go back on it.

HSE Operations report released for 28th May and it's all good news.

As of 18:30 there were 45 confirmed covid cases in ICU, down from 48 yesterday and no ICU deaths recorded between 10am yesteday and 10am today. 30 on ventilators down from 32.

As of 8pm there were 193 confirmed cases in acute hospitals down from 233, a drop of 40 in 24hrs.

8 cases diagnosed in hosptial settings in the last 24hrs.

So what about the second wave? If it takes 2 weeks for people to go to ICU and they lifted restrictions on the 17th then there should be a spike next week.

stephenjmcd

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

So what about the second wave? If it takes 2 weeks for people to go to ICU and they lifted restrictions on the 17th then there should be a spike next week.

In theory if theres a spike we should see it in the new daily case numbers through next week

sheepsh4gger

I wonder if they will revise the reopening schedule by a month. There are businesses that only make their money in the summer.
Considering the 3rd world healthcare system they might need to stick to it though.

The whole thing about taxing the unemployed is about preventing people from using this COVID payment as UBI. If there's universal income I'm not getting out of bed / work on personal projects like Dreamcast/NES games.

I think we won't see the full impact of this recession until 2022. A lot of boomer businesses will collapse, GE, GM, Boeing. All the corporations do with free money is buy up their own stock and consolidate. There's absolutely no productivity in this economy.

sheepsh4gger

stephenjmcd wrote: »

In theory if theres a spike we should see it in the new daily case numbers through next week

They say California is seeing a spike after reopening:

This is going to be interesting.


BTW the Chinese communist party needs to have sanctions put on it. It's the same thing as Chernobyl with commies covering up. If they wouldn't hide the epidemic so they can buy up masks in every country in the world then this wouldn't be as much of a problem. They disappeared doctors who complained. China needs to go through a reformation like the soviet union.

fritzelly

How's that Russian reformation going?

Jim_Hodge

A piece by George Lee on why inter-country comparisons are pointless.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0529/1143301-covid-19-statistics/

is_that_so

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

A piece by George Lee on why inter-country comparisons are pointless.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0529/1143301-covid-19-statistics/

As has been said more than once, apples and oranges comparisons. He's fine when he does this. It's the breathless instant stuff that he falls down on!

Jim_Hodge

is_that_so wrote: »

As has been said more than once, apples and oranges comparisons. He's fine when he does this. It's the breathless instant stuff that he falls down on!

I didn't post it as a comment on George Lee but a piece on the folly of comparing countries.

:rolleyes:

The constant negativity and complaining on this/these thread(s) has it ruined.

Gregor Samsa

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Last time there was a crisis like this they demolished a Lidl in Tallaght so I guess it's just a matter of time.

We’re 11 weeks into this one and coming out the other side, and there hasn’t been looting, pillaging or Lidl-demolishing. If society is going to collapse because of this, they’d better hurry up.

silverharp

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

and they say there is no reason to hit a woman :pac:

growleaves

Washington officials admit to counting gunshot victims as COVID-19 deaths

Washington epidemiologists have admitted that multiple victims of gunshot wounds who had also been diagnosed with coronavirus have been counted as COVID-19 deaths, although they say deaths from the virus are still likely being undercounted in the state.

is_that_so

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I didn't post it as a comment on George Lee but a piece on the folly of comparing countries.

:rolleyes:

The constant negativity and complaining on this/these thread(s) has it ruined.

I see you need a coffee and maybe a couple of hours more sleep.

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1266267414506770438

Jim_Hodge

is_that_so wrote: »

I see you need a coffee and maybe a couple of hours more sleep.

Bright and breezy here. Why use a post just to get a dig at the reporter rather than the content?

I suspect it's yourself that needs a break.

is_that_so

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Bright and breezy here. Why use a post just to get a dig at the reporter rather than the content?

I suspect it's yourself that needs a break.

Me? Nah, not a bother. You dived down this rabbit hole. I guess we are always learning and lesson learnt here!

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1266265084143087628?fbclid=IwAR3DKFErJuvw20mn_Co9Fb4DMWrF0h_0_hWSvxyc99QpgL0sh0UcaqLTyL4

Jim_Hodge

is_that_so wrote: »

Me? Nah, not a bother. You dived down this rabbit hole. I guess we are always learning and lesson learnt here!

Not a clue what you're on about. You wanted to get a dig at a reporter, I was interested in the content of the report.

Job done.

Good luck with the sniping.

mloc123

Are the HSE still buying 100 additional ventilators a week... Like they said they would 2 months ago? We must have almost 1000 now... For the 30-40 people that need one.

growleaves

growleaves wrote: »

Washington officials admit to counting gunshot victims as COVID-19 deaths

You should really provide the link to the actual article that your clickbait one is doing a hatchet job on based on an anti union rw Christian foundation.

http://komonews.com/news/local/state-epidemiologists-covid-19-related-deaths-likely-being-undercounted-in-wa

"The problem with that is – not every person who gets COVID-19 and subsequently passes away dies because of COVID-19," said Maxford Nelsen, Freedom Foundation.

Governor Jay Inslee reacted to the report on Monday.

"I have no reason to doubt the fatality numbers we’re using in the state of Washington right now," Inslee said Monday.

"The problem is you got some people out there who are fanning these conspiracy claims from the planet Pluto. And it’s just disgusting what they’re trying to say of all these crazy deep-state malarkey...."

caveat emptor

Shocking news.
Ryanair isn't refunding people who really need the money.

They are so clever though hiding behind staffing. It's not like they could automate payment processing? They take your money fairly handy. Hope the UK regulator throws the book at them.

Also explains the need to go against public health measures to continue to extend and pretend.

Some 84% have not had their money returned and only 5% received a refund within the legal time limit for European Union carriers of seven days, the poll by consumer group Which? indicated.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0528/1143135-84-of-ryanair-customers-await-cancelled-flight-refund/

growleaves

Washington state’s actual coronavirus death toll may be higher than current tallies, health officials say

SEATTLE — The state Department of Health is investigating whether thousands of deaths in Washington from respiratory illnesses were due to undiagnosed COVID-19, health officials said Thursday.

Some COVID-19 deaths were easier to confirm. They included people who were already in the system after testing positive for the virus, she said.

They’ve also identified about 100 deaths that are not linked to a positive case, but “we can’t rule them in or out,” Hutchinson said. About five cases involved COVID-positive people whose deaths involved gunshot wounds, she said.

“Our current dashboard reflects anyone who died, that tested positive for COVID, irrespective of cause of death,” she said.

owlbethere

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1266265084143087628?fbclid=IwAR3DKFErJuvw20mn_Co9Fb4DMWrF0h_0_hWSvxyc99QpgL0sh0UcaqLTyL4

I don't study science or medical reports or studies. I had a quick look at that paper and I don't see anything about the ages of the participants or those people studied for this. I'm talking more so for the second group of people referred to. The 18 people where 50% had immunity for this Sars 2 even though they had no exposure to the original Sars. If we knew their ages we could know more. Like young adults of age 17 or 18 years would have been babies at the time of the original Sars. So they might have immunity from breast milk as an example.

I would love the same type of study done here to see what they find.

We can't go forward coming out from lockdown thinking 50% of people in Singapore have immunity to this covid19 and its only a small study too of 18 people. It will more than likely lead to people taking more risks thinking they are immune.

US2

So someone shot dead who happened to have covid will go down as a covid death ?

growleaves

"I have no reason to doubt the fatality numbers we’re using in the state of Washington right now," Inslee said Monday.

"The problem is you got some people out there who are fanning these conspiracy claims from the planet Pluto. And it’s just disgusting what they’re trying to say of all these crazy deep-state malarkey...."

Relevance? The report that COVID-positive people whose deaths involved gunshot wounds were counted as Covid deaths is factual.