Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings

stephenjmcd · 29-05-2020 04:55PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

That's fine in theory but they will use that as a template going forward

The way they're talking I don't expect any speeding up of restrictions

Still going on about slow reopening

Yeah I dont see much movement in phase 2, I'd be hopefully of phase 3&4 seeing movement to start with.

It's hard to tell really, leo saying he wants to speed things up but needs to be cautious.

Then you've Martin saying he would speed things up and reduce the 2m guidance.

To me it sounds like they're just trying to kick the can down the road to the next government

KrustyUCC · 29-05-2020 04:57PM

Think you will be right there

Leo wants to speed things up but slowly easing restrictions

He's contradicting himself

He can't do both

dalyboy · 29-05-2020 04:57PM

Penfailed wrote: »

You aren't breaking any law in that situation. How do you not know this already?

Thankfully I know it. That's why I'd rip up the fine however you would be shocked with thd amount of people that do not know this and are not seeing their kids because they are over 5km limits.

Hurrache · 29-05-2020 05:00PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Its equally amusing that so many view them as experts in an area they know feck all about.

Well one of them at least is a professional contrarian.

titan18 · 29-05-2020 05:01PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The health of the nation rhetoric is horsesh#t by now.

He made the point Ireland is now ignoring the scientific data the rest of Europe is following.

Successful people are easy to hate, its a common begrudgery in Ireland.

He explained trying to refund 35m flights takes a while

Plenty of countries still have quarantines in place atm. UK, USA, Spain, Greece, Australia, New Zealand, France etc all currently have quarantines in place. It's not true that all the rest of EU countries have them removed. They might have plans in place to remove them but as of today, they're in place.

Micky 32 · 29-05-2020 05:01PM

Penfailed wrote: »

I've just checked back on this post out of curiosity. 8 likes for you boasting about breaking a law that doesn't exist and ripping up a fine that you won't get. Amazing.

You need to get out in that lovely sunshine and enjoy it instead of stressing out and worrying about how many and counting likes on a post that you don’t like.

JPCN1 · 29-05-2020 05:05PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Even when numbers kept low they didn't use the excess capacity

Paying top dollar for little return

Initial idea was right but not how they used the hospitals afterwards

It was suggested to them to take a couple of the private hospitals and to have a plan to take the others on a phased basis if the numbers of Covid patients warranted it... That's close to half a billion gone needlessly, 2.2 million people with Health Insurance left in the cold and leaving the State open to massive amounts of lawsuits. Top work Simon.

iamwhoiam · 29-05-2020 05:06PM

Penfailed wrote: »

I've just checked back on this post out of curiosity. 8 likes for you boasting about breaking a law that doesn't exist and ripping up a fine that you won't get. Amazing.

Make that 9 because I will thank it too if I can find it . Childrens mental health and well being is absolutely vital in this crisis

yosemitesam1 · 29-05-2020 05:09PM

Leo on the news saying we need to cut community spread further and further reduce the strength of the virus before 2m being reduced to 1.5m

dalyboy · 29-05-2020 05:09PM

Penfailed wrote: »

I've just checked back on this post out of curiosity. 8 likes for you boasting about breaking a law that doesn't exist and ripping up a fine that you won't get. Amazing.

How about my 68 year old neighbour was marched back from the supermarket by a Garda to prove he was under 70 during cocoon times. He was "breaking the law" according to the gaurd and was going to be fined. That law didn't exist either

Penfailed · 29-05-2020 05:10PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

You need to get out in that lovely sunshine and enjoy it instead of stressing out and worrying about how many and counting likes on a post you don’t like.

Ah c'mon! From you? The fella that quizzed me on whether or not I liked a good news post or not. Give over.
I'm at work. I'll be out in the sunshine shortly. No stress here.

Penfailed · 29-05-2020 05:11PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Make that 9 because I will thank it too if I can find it . Childrens mental health and well being is absolutely vital in this crisis

'Sakes! Where did I say it wasn't?

the kelt · 29-05-2020 05:13PM

I don’t like Michael O Leary.

But one thing I can’t argue with is his point about all the other countries using their own experts and analysing data and opening up months ahead of us in some cases.

Again no one has answered the simple question, what makes our situation so different?

Why is our medical opinion and experts opinion so vastly different to the rest of Europe when it comes to opening up?

Seeing how others get on isn’t a reason, it’s a pathetic excuse and at this stage we can see how many are getting on.

So what’s the story? The only reasoning I can’t think is stubbornness, simply put we have decided on our course and that’s it. Whilst other countries adapt, change and move as more and more data becomes available ours would prefer to keep going to admit that we could possibly change.

Pride and ignorance are the terms that spring to mind.

Penfailed · 29-05-2020 05:13PM

dalyboy wrote: »

How about my 68 year old neighbour was marched back from the supermarket by a Garda to prove he was under 70 during cocoon times. He was "breaking the law" according to the gaurd and was going to be fined. That law didn't exist either

Do you want a 'like'? The fine wouldn't have stuck.

Benimar · 29-05-2020 05:13PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Make that 9 because I will thank it too if I can find it . Childrens mental health and well being is absolutely vital in this crisis

The law doesn’t exist, that’s the point!

He was trying to act the tough man by saying he was breaking the law, when there is no law to break.

Micky 32 · 29-05-2020 05:14PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Ah c'mon! From you? The fella that quizzed me on whether or not I liked a good news post or not. Give over.
I'm at work. I'll be out in the sunshine shortly. No stress here.

Well all you do is bitch and moan at everyone’s posts if it’s not a pro lockdown one, so no you give over.

dalyboy · 29-05-2020 05:14PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Ah c'mon! From you? The fella that quizzed me on whether or not I liked a good news post or not. Give over.
I'm at work. I'll be out in the sunshine shortly. No stress here.

Get back to work and stay off attacking my post. I'll have my say regardless of your review.

Penfailed · 29-05-2020 05:17PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Well all you do is bitch and moan at everyone’s posts if it’s not a pro lockdown one, so no you give over.

Yet, here you are...bitching and moaning at my post. Pantomime.

Penfailed · 29-05-2020 05:18PM

dalyboy wrote: »

Get back to work and stay off attacking my post. I'll have my say regardless of your review.

You are perfectly entitled to have your say. I'm perfectly entitled to respond however I see fit.

ChelseaRentBoy · 29-05-2020 05:19PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Well all you do is bitch and moan at everyone’s posts if it’s not a pro lockdown one, so no you give over.

Oh the irony.

Micky 32 · 29-05-2020 05:19PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Yet, here you are...bitching and moaning at my post. Pantomime.

Er no, defending myself from your “ from you?” Cheeky post :rolleyes:

growleaves · 29-05-2020 05:20PM

Benimar wrote: »

The law doesn’t exist, that’s the point!

He was trying to act the tough man by saying he was breaking the law, when there is no law to break.

There is such a multiplication of incoherent and contradictory regulations on ordinary behaviour that this 'Aha!' moment is less impressive than it sounds. There are people breaking laws without knowing it and there are other people adhering to laws that don't even exist.

The solution is to return to normality - not a new abnormal of semi-permanent totalitarianism but to the natural and relaxed life that suits Irish people well.

Micky 32 · 29-05-2020 05:21PM

ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »

Oh the irony.

You don’t see any of my posts bitching and moaning at anyone who crave a bit of freedom.

Muscles Schultz · 29-05-2020 05:21PM

We’ll be the laughing stock of Europe if the lifting of these measures continues at such a snails pace.

Ginger n Lemon · 29-05-2020 05:23PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Well all you do is bitch and moan at everyone’s posts if it’s not a pro lockdown one, so no you give over.

I do have to agree with this. OP hasnt even told us if he wants things to open quickly, slowly, or not open at all. Weird

Ginger n Lemon · 29-05-2020 05:23PM

Muscles Schultz wrote: »

We’ll be the laughing stock of Europe if the lifting of these measures continues at such a snails pace.

We already are.

Lol MOL "We are not endangering lives, we are just following some idiotic science that exists only in Ireland"

KrustyUCC · 29-05-2020 05:31PM

Mary Wilson getting no change out of Michael O'Leary

She never answered his point about why our science is different to every other country in relation to hairdressers etc

Penfailed · 29-05-2020 05:34PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I do have to agree with this. OP hasnt even told us if he wants things to open quickly, slowly, or not open at all. Weird

It's weird that you haven't noticed that I've previously stated that I'd prefer if restrictions were eased more quickly. I'm not getting worked up about it though. I support the government's approach. If it moves quicker than the existing phasing, happy days.

RobitTV · 29-05-2020 05:36PM

Michael O'Leary is about three or four weeks away from calling in the lawyers and launching a significant legal challenge. Mark my words.

He will continue to make public remarks about the government in the meantime and build up a case. But he is getting close to considering other avenues.

Ryanair and O'Leary have launched legal action many times before. He isn't going to stand down.

Ryanair won a court case against Skyscanner in January

stephenjmcd · 29-05-2020 05:38PM

Hell of alot of pressure coming on last few days

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1266406746354057218?s=19

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings