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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #5492
    Jeremy Helpless Salesman
    Posts: 0 ✭ Jeremy Helpless Salesman


    Del Griffith wrote: »
    Theory? Lol.. right yea, they must have been 'reinfected' while in isolation. Head scratcher that one...

    Possibly false positives the first time around.


  • #5493
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    bekker wrote: »
    Hope Transport Ireland will lay on enough extra capacity (given reduced unit load) to make the return to work go smoothly, better to start with excess capacity and cut back, rather than add problems to what will undoubtedly be a chaotic day for many enterprises.

    You would hope they will.
    Most of the lager construction companies
    Are requiring car pooling of the same workers all the time, work the same shift ect.
    They are also renting of mini bus to collect workers .
    Some are requesting a voluntary history of contact outside of work hours to be filled out in case a suspected case arrives at the work place.
    Just to add there has been no official reported outbreaks of covid-19 in Europe in construction sites


  • #5494
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,527 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Micky 32 wrote:
    Borders are still open yet the cases are dropping. Maybe it’s me i get the feeling some are unhappy about todays numbers.
    Look, we all want this over. Some of us look past tomorrow and want no issues in a month or two, we don't want another lockdown. If the borders remain open without quarantine then it's highly likely this thing takes off again.
    All we want is for our government to do the right thing for the people, to keep us safe and to keep us up and running.


  • #5495
    PMBC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭PMBC


    Any numbers given for ICU beds today?

    Sat 56
    Fri 57
    Thu 58
    Wed 64


  • #5496
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ZX7R wrote: »
    You would hope they will.
    Most of the lager construction companies
    Are requiring car pooling of the same workers all the time, work the same shift ect.
    They are also renting of mini bus to collect workers .
    Some are requesting a voluntary history of contact outside of work hours to be filled out in case a suspected case arrives at the work place.
    Just to add there has been no official reported outbreaks of covid-19 in Europe in construction sites
    All sensible precautionary stuff.


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  • #5497
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    PMBC wrote: »
    Any numbers given for ICU beds today?

    Sat 56
    Fri 57
    Thu 58
    Wed 64
    I think it was 52 or 53. Came up in HSE briefing this morning.


  • #5498
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Do we know how many of those new cases have been hospitalised? Or do we know how many active cases are currently in hospital?
    These are crucial figures to know as the whole point of this lockdown is to ‘flatten the curve’ and save the hospitals from being swamped with Covid cases.
    Is the curve flat enough yet?

    Was said on the news 54 in the number currently in ICU. 394 hospitalised.


  • #5499
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,121 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Do we know how many of those new cases have been hospitalised? Or do we know how many active cases are currently in hospital?
    These are crucial figures to know as the whole point of this lockdown is to ‘flatten the curve’ and save the hospitals from being swamped with Covid cases.
    Is the curve flat enough yet?

    The numbers are on the news every evening.

    The curve is flat enough for where we are and for future planned stages. Keeping it there is the issue. Flattening isn't eliminating, it's keeping it manageable and the R0 low enough for a semblance of normal activity.


  • #5500
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/covid-19-b-c-the-virus-epicentre-that-wasnt/

    Interesting article discussing why Vancouver had so many fewer deaths than most other Canadian cities despite many coronavirus cases first popping up in January in BC due to a huge asian population.

    Early public awareness, contact tracing..and luck


  • #5501
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/covid-19-b-c-the-virus-epicentre-that-wasnt/

    Interesting article discussing why Vancouver had so many fewer deaths than most other Canadian cities despite many coronavirus cases first popping up in January in BC due to a huge asian population.

    Early public awareness, contact tracing..and luck

    Good article. This bit stood out:

    'British Columbia commandeered nursing homes at the first sign of infection, barring visitors. Employees were forbidden from working at more than one facility, a move other Ontario and Quebec didn’t make until later in the crisis.

    The ability to manage nursing-home outbreaks played a key role in limiting deaths in B.C., said Patricia Daly, chief medical health officer for Vancouver Coast Health.'


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  • #5502
    Lord Trollington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    I was in Dunnes today. 2 couples started chatting and the 4 of them standing right next to each. An employee shouted at them to distance themselves lol

    It's everyone's own personal responsibility to socially distance when out in public places. If 4 people decide they want to stand close and chat, that is up to those 4. It can't and should not be policed. If it comes to that we have no civil liberties left.

    Being shouted at by some spotty teenager in Dunnes Stores isn't the way to go and should not be tolerated.


  • #5503
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,769 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Lord Trollington wrote: »
    It's everyone's own personal responsibility to socially distance when out in public places. If 4 people decide they want to stand close and chat, that is up to those 4. It can't and should not be policed. If it comes to that we have no civil liberties left.

    Being shouted at by some spotty teenager in Dunnes Stores isn't the way to go and should not be tolerated.

    That's a load of bollocks in my opinion.
    Why bother with restrictions so if everyone can mind themselves.
    Truth is lots of people need to be told what to do.


  • #5504
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/covid-19-b-c-the-virus-epicentre-that-wasnt/

    Interesting article discussing why Vancouver had so many fewer deaths than most other Canadian cities despite many coronavirus cases first popping up in January in BC due to a huge asian population.

    Early public awareness, contact tracing..and luck

    Forewarned is forearmed
    I have a family member in BC and they were prepared and sociallly distancing etc before it ever arrived . Thankfully it was all in place and they have very few cases


  • #5505
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Lord Trollington wrote: »
    It's everyone's own personal responsibility to socially distance when out in public places. If 4 people decide they want to stand close and chat, that is up to those 4. It can't and should not be policed. If it comes to that we have no civil liberties left.

    Being shouted at by some spotty teenager in Dunnes Stores isn't the way to go and should not be tolerated.

    Yes, but those four people are potentially putting other people at risk. Libertarianism has no place in this argument.


  • #5506
    Andrew00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    If the coronavirus can stay in the air for 10 or more minutes,

    what's the point of social distancing?


  • #5507
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Lord Trollington wrote: »
    It's everyone's own personal responsibility to socially distance when out in public places. If 4 people decide they want to stand close and chat, that is up to those 4. It can't and should not be policed. If it comes to that we have no civil liberties left.

    Being shouted at by some spotty teenager in Dunnes Stores isn't the way to go and should not be tolerated.

    It only works that way if their actions would only affect themselves. But unfortunately, we all share society and others may suffer the effects of their actions so in the case of an outbreak of a transmissable virus there is exceptions to our civil liberties. Their pursuit of their liberties impinges on the liberties of others in this case.


  • #5508
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Boggles wrote: »
    Edgy.

    If you ever find someone willing to procreate with your good self, you may some day understand the very real point I was making.

    Edgy, says the man who told a front line worker he hopes he crashes and dies quickly if he takes a drive outside his 2k limit
    I think you won the 'edgy post of the pandemic' award for that gem.


  • #5509
    Del Griffith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    Allyson Crooked Stairwell wrote: »
    Possibly false positives the first time around.

    They never tested negative if I follow the article correctly, so the headline could read 'Sailors still have Corona virus'


  • #5510
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    If the coronavirus can stay in the air for 10 or more minutes,

    what's the point of social distancing?

    It will obviously disperse quite quickly in the open air, but the need for social distancing is evident in indoor situations.


  • #5511
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Edgy, says the man who told a front line worker he hopes he crashes and dies quickly if he takes a drive outside his 2k limit
    I think you won the 'edgy post of the pandemic' award for that gem.
    You weren't long omitting the context of the situation you refer to there.

    That guy, if I recall correctly, was bragging that he was going to a busy area of scenic beauty on his days off in spite of the fact that it was about 40km from his home.

    Even if a lot of posters didn't overtly express their wish for him not to do it, he was being a dickhead and deserved to be called out. Do you think that behaviour is ok?


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  • #5512
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Lord Trollington wrote: »
    It's everyone's own personal responsibility to socially distance when out in public places. If 4 people decide they want to stand close and chat, that is up to those 4. It can't and should not be policed. If it comes to that we have no civil liberties left.

    Being shouted at by some spotty teenager in Dunnes Stores isn't the way to go and should not be tolerated.

    Your argument is flawed once the people enter the premises they are no longer in a public setting.
    Once they enter the shop they have agreed to any rules of trade implemented by the management or owner of said business.
    This has been the case long long before covid-19 distance rules have been implemented


  • #5513
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    If the coronavirus can stay in the air for 10 or more minutes,

    what's the point of social distancing?

    Can and does are not the same thing. 90% of infections will occur within the 2 meter 15 minute guidelines. Limit those contacts to the minimum reduces(has reduced) the R0 to less than 1 and the virus goes into retreat. Nothing that has been done was designed to eliminate all infections


  • #5514
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    If the coronavirus can stay in the air for 10 or more minutes,

    what's the point of social distancing?

    You clearly have no concept of mitigation/prevention of risk and opposed to elimination of risk.


  • #5515
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    If the coronavirus can stay in the air for 10 or more minutes,

    what's the point of social distancing?

    You clearly have no concept of mitigation/prevention of risk as opposed to elimination of risk.


  • #5516
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Belgian HCW showing simple sign to their PM.

    https://twitter.com/dr2nisreenalwan/status/1261933702931779584?s=21Yeah


  • #5517
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Belgian HCW showing simple sign to health minister.

    https://twitter.com/dr2nisreenalwan/status/1261933702931779584?s=21Yeah

    No ****ing way are they 2 meters apart. Ffs.


  • #5518
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    smelly sock wrote: »
    No ****ing way are they 2 meters apart. Ffs.

    They had masks on.


  • #5519
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    So do nothing for the rest of one's life incase you spread something to another person? Can you not see how ridiculous your comment is?

    That sounds like an argument about condoms. Carry on.....


  • #5520
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    If the coronavirus can stay in the air for 10 or more minutes,

    what's the point of social distancing?
    In an experimental setting inside of a sealed box. Outside of this environment, things like air flow and wind speed are going to impact on the distribution of particles.

    Social distancing reduces it even further - 2 metres doesn't guarantee safety, but the scientists are telling us it reduces it enough.


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  • #5521
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,436 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    blade1 wrote: »
    That's a load of bollocks in my opinion.
    Why bother with restrictions so if everyone can mind themselves.
    Truth is lots of people need to be told what to do.

    Why bother with any rules or laws in society full stop. Let people as a whole make up their own mind regarding everything.

    Can you imagine the chaos that would create...


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