Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

ZX7R · 17-05-2020 04:32PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Oh yeah I dont disagree that theres going to be more people out and about tomorrow. You can see it building up the last week or so.

I guess we'll only know come tomorrow morning rush hour what the actual impact is

30,000 construction members of construction federation of Ireland returning tomorrow that's roughly 20% of there members it will take two weeks for them to get back up to speed.
Then you have independent construction companies also returning don't have numbers for that.
Then you will have affiliated companies anything from architects designer's to fire servers to alarm specialist ECT.
Then you have manufacturer coming back to supply the above this falls under go to work if you can't work at home ,bit of a gray area.
More back to work tomorrow than most will suspected .
Our easing of restrictions is mostly based on getting the largest numbers back to work although drawn out a bit.
It is also definitely planned on keeping the social side of life confined for the foreseeable future.

Boggles · 17-05-2020 04:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

And it's lucky for these delicate damsels that captain boggles is looking out for their pretty little hides while their menfolk get back to work.
Christ on a bike.

Edgy.

If you ever find someone willing to procreate with your good self, you may some day understand the very real point I was making.

s1ippy · 17-05-2020 04:37PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Umm, "it's clearly necessary to drop this dumb mindset that the weak need to be weeded out of society" - where did I say that? I said they had to consider the risks faced themselves.

You're saying that at-risk people should withdraw from society so that they will not be exposed to people like you who refuse to adjust their behaviour. Because it's inconvenient or they just don't want to. Thereby weeding out that section of society through the need for them to not go out to protect themselves, or go out wearing masks with an increased chance of catching this virus from asymptomatic carriers who refuse to wear masks.

I'm likely a good bit older than you by the way, it seems that the younger are more terrified about what the future holds.

It's not the stated purpose of the lockdown to adopt the practices of asian countries and eliminate infections. Let's cancel any buffets too forever, too much chance of contamination. Why not wear hazmat suits while we are at it?

Whereas I interpreted your posts and inferred your preference for not respecting those people who do not wish to contract the virus, you are certainly putting words in my mouth here. Who mentioned hazmat suits.

I'm not saying that society doesn't have to take reasonable measures to protect the vulnerable. But the vulnerable have to take measures themselves too based on the risks presented. You sound like you'd like to fundamentally change the way we generally live in an attempt to protect anyone from dying.

Where have you been for the last two months? I'm not the one changing anything, things have changed.

Majority of people do not get this virus

Because of the precautions that have been taken to date.

and majority of those who do recover.

The extent of recovery is not yet known

Those who are vulnerable should take precautions.

And those who don't have other health concerns besides their potential contracting of the virus or speading it asymptomatically can help protect the huge number of people who it can be very damaging or fatal for.
https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/hl/selfmanagement/donegal/programmes-services/long-term-conditions/
"In Ireland, 38% of Irish people over 50 years have one long-term health condition. 65% of adults over 65 years have two or more long-term health conditions (HSE 2016a)."

The west has not taken any similar measures to protect people from the flu and plenty of other sicknesses. People die from that too.

Needless to say, this isn't the flu so just stop with that rubbish.

bekker · 17-05-2020 04:45PM

ZX7R wrote: »

30,000 construction members of construction federation of Ireland returning tomorrow that's roughly 20% of there members it will take two weeks for them to get back up to speed.
Then you have independent construction companies also returning don't have numbers for that.
Then you will have affiliated companies anything from architects designer's to fire servers to alarm specialist ECT.
Then you have manufacturer coming back to supply the above this falls under go to work if you can't work at home ,bit of a gray area.
More back to work tomorrow than most will suspected .
Our easing of restrictions is mostly based on getting the largest numbers back to work although drawn out a bit.
It is also definitely planned on keeping the social side of life confined for the foreseeable future.

Hope Transport Ireland will lay on enough extra capacity (given reduced unit load) to make the return to work go smoothly, better to start with excess capacity and cut back, rather than add problems to what will undoubtedly be a chaotic day for many enterprises.

New Home · 17-05-2020 04:50PM

s1ippy wrote: »

You're saying that at-risk people should withdraw from society so that they will not be exposed to people like you who refuse to adjust their behaviour. Because it's inconvenient or they just don't want to. Thereby weeding out that section of society through the need for them to not go out to protect themselves, or go out wearing masks with an increased chance of catching this virus from asymptomatic carriers who refuse to wear masks.

Just adding that a lot of people that need protecting aren't able to protect themselves, which is something that any carer can confirm.

niallo27 · 17-05-2020 04:51PM

s1ippy wrote: »

You're saying that at-risk people should withdraw from society so that they will not be exposed to people like you who refuse to adjust their behaviour. Because it's inconvenient or they just don't want to. Thereby weeding out that section of society through the need for them to not go out to protect themselves, or go out wearing masks with an increased chance of catching this virus from asymptomatic carriers who refuse to wear masks.

Whereas I interpreted your posts and inferred your preference for not respecting those people who do not wish to contract the virus, you are certainly putting words in my mouth here. Who mentioned hazmat suits.

Where have you been for the last two months? I'm not the one changing anything, things have changed.

Because of the precautions that have been taken to date.

The extent of recovery is not yet known

And those who don't have other health concerns besides their potential contracting of the virus or speading it asymptomatically can help protect the huge number of people who it can be very damaging or fatal for.
https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/hl/selfmanagement/donegal/programmes-services/long-term-conditions/
"In Ireland, 38% of Irish people over 50 years have one long-term health condition. 65% of adults over 65 years have two or more long-term health conditions (HSE 2016a)."

Needless to say, this isn't the flu so just stop with that rubbish.

What's the alternative though, everyone is quick to say but people will die your a terrible person without giving any viable alternative. We cannot continue with this lockdown

SeaBreezes · 17-05-2020 05:10PM

ek motor wrote: »

Coronavirus survivors banned from joining US Military. Why ban people who survive it, I wonder?

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/05/06/coronavirus-survivors-banned-from-joining-the-military/

So, by the time they reach 'herd immunity',there's no army anymore?..

silverharp · 17-05-2020 05:17PM

Our betters telling what we can and cant hear again

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1262053623216910343

WhiteMemento9 · 17-05-2020 05:20PM

niallo27 wrote: »

What's the alternative though, everyone is quick to say but people will die your a terrible person without giving any viable alternative. We cannot continue with this lockdown

We are not continuing with the lockdown. We have a phased reopening starting very soon

podgeandrodge · 17-05-2020 05:22PM

silverharp wrote: »

Our betters telling what we can and cant hear again

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1262053623216910343

Whatever people's view on any of this are, people should be concerned about censoring alternative views to 'protect' us, just because they represent the 'correct' view.

stephenjmcd · 17-05-2020 05:27PM

Dept of health confirms 10 deaths and 64 new cases this evening

Vinnie222 · 17-05-2020 05:28PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dept of health confirms 10 deaths and 64 new cases this evening

Great news, restrictions are paying off

ACitizenErased · 17-05-2020 05:29PM

64 new cases. Fantastic news.

Be right back · 17-05-2020 05:29PM

It's great to see such low positive cases. May those who died, rest in peace.

Eod100 · 17-05-2020 05:45PM

Really hope this downward trend continues and people don't get complacent over next few weeks.

https://twitter.com/SMurphyTV/status/1262056560588730369

eagle eye · 17-05-2020 05:45PM

silverharp wrote:

Our betters telling what we can and cant hear again

Stop using Google if you are unhappy about it.

fits · 17-05-2020 05:45PM

I wonder if we will regret not giving the restrictions another week or two. Suppressing the virus looks within reach and then we could potentially open up quicker.

blowitupref · 17-05-2020 05:46PM

Minus the back log cases on Thursday, I'd reckon we had a little over 900 new confirmed cases in Ireland this week. A big drop compared to April 13th to 19th when we had 5596 new cases that week.

Busi_Girl08 · 17-05-2020 05:48PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Really hope this downward trend continues and people don't get complacent over next few weeks.

Hope so too but can already see worrying signs. My dope of a housemate brought over his girlfriend on Friday because "the lockdown is being lifted on monday because the numbers are really low now".

Micky 32 · 17-05-2020 05:50PM

blowitupref wrote: »

Minus the back log cases on Thursday, I'd reckon we had a little over 900 new confirmed cases in Ireland this week. A big drop compared to April 13th to 19th when we had 5596 new cases that week.

Was there no Thursday backlog of cases last Sunday?

UrbanFret · 17-05-2020 05:50PM

Need to be careful over the next fortnight, we don't want to let our foot off the throttle. Keep doing what we're doing and the light will appear at the end of the tunnel.

Roger_007 · 17-05-2020 05:51PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dept of health confirms 10 deaths and 64 new cases this evening

Do we know how many of those new cases have been hospitalised? Or do we know how many active cases are currently in hospital?
These are crucial figures to know as the whole point of this lockdown is to ‘flatten the curve’ and save the hospitals from being swamped with Covid cases.
Is the curve flat enough yet?

WhiteMemento9 · 17-05-2020 05:51PM

fits wrote: »

I wonder if we will regret not giving the restrictions another week or two. Suppressing the virus looks within reach and then we could potentially open up quicker.

Hardly makes a difference if the borders remain open without mandatory quarantines.

niallo27 · 17-05-2020 05:51PM

fits wrote: »

I wonder if we will regret not giving the restrictions another week or two. Suppressing the virus looks within reach and then we could potentially open up quicker.

How much more do you want to suppress it, we are down to double digits. By your logic we should be opening up quicker right now.

sydthebeat · 17-05-2020 05:54PM

I'm hoping the lifting of restrictions have a "freeboard" built into them to account for the thicks who think its a free for all now.

I'm seeing many people gathering in larger numbers now.

Micky 32 · 17-05-2020 05:55PM

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

Hardly makes a difference if the borders remain open without mandatory quarantines.

Borders are still open yet the cases are dropping. Maybe it’s me i get the feeling some are unhappy about todays numbers.

Micky 32 · 17-05-2020 05:58PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

I'm hoping the lifting of restrictions have a "freeboard" built into them to account for the thicks who think its a free for all now.

I'm seeing many people gathering in larger numbers now.

I was in Dunnes today. 2 couples started chatting and the 4 of them standing right next to each. An employee shouted at them to distance themselves lol

blowitupref · 17-05-2020 06:00PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Was there no Thursday backlog of cases last Sunday?

Not that I'm aware of. Last Thursday we had a large number of March cases just added to the overall number.

Micky 32 · 17-05-2020 06:02PM

blowitupref wrote: »

Not that I'm aware of. Last Thursday we had a large number of March cases just added to the overall number.

So what makes you think there’s a backlog from Thursday?

I’m on about last Thursday week regarding last Sunday numbers.

stephenjmcd · 17-05-2020 06:02PM

Italy reports 675 new cases of coronavirus and 145 new deaths.

Total of 225,435 cases and 31,908 deaths.

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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