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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**
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snotboogie wrote: »The solution to all of our problems pre during and post covid, is to massively curtail everyone leaving the house. Sounds like an awesome society you have planned there
Leaving the house? You'd be free to leave the house whenever you want
Somewhat odd that you'd consider not having to commute to work would equate to being a shut inFintanMcluskey wrote: »How many people would actually want to work from home for the rest of their lives? Devoid of any social interaction and surely the lack of stimulation would be soul destroying?
Just shows the degree to which your employer dominates your life in modern times that you consider a life without and office to be a life without social interaction. You have a family, you have friends, you live in a community. Heaven forbid that you spend time among them. You might have to go out an develop a social life this way, rather than just flirting with Maeve in Accounts
Interestingly I'm actually spending far more time communicating and interacting with my team now because we cant be constantly interrupted or have to look over our shoulders in an open plan environment.
This is the way forwards lads. Property prices drop across the board, transport chaos disappears, urbanisation ends, environment improves, people spend more time with their families and communities, small businesses and services will grow locally. City centres become places where people leave again instead of business parks and tourist amusement rides.
Lord protect from a better life :rolleyes:0 -
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Leaving the house? You'd be free to leave the house whenever you want Somewhat odd that you'd consider not having to commute to work would equate to being a shut in
Just shows the degree to which your employer dominates your life in modern times that you consider a life without and office to be a life without social interaction. You have a family, you have friends, you live in a community. Heaven forbid that you spend time among them. You might have to go out an develop a social life this way, rather than just flirting with Maeve in Accounts
Interestingly I'm actually spending far more time communicating and interacting with my team now because we cant be constantly interrupted or have to look over our shoulders in an open plan environment.
This is the way forwards lads. Property prices drop across the board, transport chaos disappears, urbanisation ends, environment improves, people spend more time with their families and communities, small businesses and services will grow locally. City centres become places where people leave again instead of business parks and tourist amusement rides.
Lord protect from a better life :rolleyes:
Most realistic WFH roles are 9-5 jobs, that have zero requirements for hands on tasks. Thats already eliminated the options down to admin and IT roles.
The issue with IT will then be, if it can be done from some guys house in Carlow it can be outsourced to cheap labour countries. Be careful what we wish for0 -
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What? That's rubbish. They shut down their borders ffs
The Polish Ministry of Health even tried to prevent medical personnel from commenting on the pandemic.
All international air and rail travel to and from Poland was suspended. Poland's borders were closed to foreigners with very limited exceptions. All persons entering Poland from abroad had to undergo a compulsory 14-day home quarantine. Internal travel was limited forbidding non-essential travel. The army were mandated to help police to keep people off the streets if they had no good reason to be outside,
See: https://www.gov.pl/web/coronavirus/travel
Hows the fek does any of that make them "3 months ahead of Ireland!"? Polish people had 8 weeks of stay at home restictions. We're only at week 6.
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For all I care they can close the borders in Ireland as well, in fact they should
as for public transport it’s back now but taking limited numbers of passengers as reasonable safety measure.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-poland-restriction/poland-to-reopen-hotels-and-shopping-malls-on-may-4-pm-idUSKCN22B11Q
As of today re-opening of restaurants and pubs with outdoor sitting has been confirmed for next week.0 -
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Leaving the house? You'd be free to leave the house whenever you want Somewhat odd that you'd consider not having to commute to work would equate to being a shut in
Just shows the degree to which your employer dominates your life in modern times that you consider a life without and office to be a life without social interaction. You have a family, you have friends, you live in a community. Heaven forbid that you spend time among them. You might have to go out an develop a social life this way, rather than just flirting with Maeve in Accounts
Interestingly I'm actually spending far more time communicating and interacting with my team now because we cant be constantly interrupted or have to look over our shoulders in an open plan environment.
This is the way forwards lads. Property prices drop across the board, transport chaos disappears, urbanisation ends, environment improves, people spend more time with their families and communities, small businesses and services will grow locally. City centres become places where people leave again instead of business parks and tourist amusement rides.
Lord protect from a better life :rolleyes:
There are many reasons why people would prefer to work in an office rather than at home
Take a parent of a young family with no spare room and the down stairs an open plan . He /she would have to sit at a kitchen table while the young kids are trying to have a normal life in the same room
Take a young person sharing a house living in a box room and sharing living space with 5 others .
Or a family with three or four working adults trying to find space and peace to work from home
There are numerous reason why people need to work in an office not least of them for company and adult conversation0 -
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For all I care they can close the borders in Ireland as well, in fact they should as for public transport it’s back now but taking limited numbers of passengers as reasonable safety measure.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-poland-restriction/poland-to-reopen-hotels-and-shopping-malls-on-may-4-pm-idUSKCN22B11Q
As of today re-opening of restaurants and pubs with outdoor sitting has been confirmed for next week.
That article is dated thd 29 April and details thatFurther steps to unfreeze the economy, including a reopening of restaurants, will be announced at a later date, Morawiecki said. Poles are still required to wear masks in public
The government has also not given any indication when it might re-open the country’s borders.
Poland, which has a population of 38 million, had reported 12,415 cases of the new coronavirus and 606 deaths as of Wednesday.
Imagine telling people they have to wear masks here. Some here would explode in a blue fit.
Looks like their infection rate and numbers of dead have been kept down. Fair play.0 -
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That article is dated thd 29 April and details that
Imagine telling people they have to wear masks here. Some here would explode in a blue fit.
Looks like their infection rate and numbers of dead have been kept down. Fair play.
No, they are just not testing much but that’s another story. Either way I know for a fact that at Easter someone travelled from Lodz to Warsaw (130km) and back and hasn’t been bothered by anyone - not by the police nor army. As for the masks you can throw every stupid reason why you can’t wear them and it’s being accepted
either way I don’t think there would be much uproar here if people were told the shops/restaurants/what not/ will be re-opened if they wear the mask.0 -
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Haha ! I don’t need your patronising lecture . I am retired and enjoying life while also supporting my family and being part of their lives
One thing that life has thought me is that we all differ and our needs are different so I would never presume whats good for me is good for anothe.
Patronise you? If I was going to patronise you I'd explain the difference between "thought" and "taught" to you or somesuch 0 -
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Ginger n Lemon wrote: »There is also a need to support local businesses. Think of all the lunch places around your offices - all of them will go out of business very quickly if office buildings remain empty. Some of suggestions here could create unemployment of epic proportions, 28.2% from CSO the other day will seem like a low figure.
The biggest issue with most of your posts if that you only think of problems, doom and gloom. If WFH becomes the norm then those businesses need to adapt and offer delivery services...people must adapt to the situation and most businesses will, which in fact will create more jobs. 0 -
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Leaving the house? You'd be free to leave the house whenever you want Somewhat odd that you'd consider not having to commute to work would equate to being a shut in
I said curtail leaving the house not ban leaving the house. People spend 40 hours a week working, the idea that doing this at home alone as opposed to in a communal office won't isolate people is fanciful. The fact that this ties in with DeValeraesque fantiaies of utopian deurbanization is even more worrying. Our cities are under serviced, the solution to this is to build the services needed and help our cities grow stronger, it is not to depopulate the cities in favour of cocooned workers in dotted McMansions.0 -
The biggest issue with most of your posts if that you only think of problems, doom and gloom. If WFH becomes the norm then those businesses need to adapt and offer delivery services...people must adapt to the situation and most businesses will, which in fact will create more jobs.
I dont think you fully understand how this works.
9/10 places serving lunch in city centre have people in the kitchen making food, have people at the counter taking in cash/payment, have staff who clean /look after the seating area and some businesses will have security.
If these businesses "adapt" to your proposal, 75% of jobs will be lost and only jobs that will remain are the kitchen ones.
When do we start creating "more jobs" as you say?
Its not doom and gloom, i am very sorry to tell you this, its the reality. 28% CSO unemployment figure is a reality. What we are discussing here is how much will that % be when we are at 10th of August. If businesses adapt to takeaways then this figure may very well be 18% - 20% into the future.0 -
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