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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭ShellBell89


    claregal1 wrote: »
    Yeah I also noticed that . I imagine it is because of the current restrictions as most people are working from home at the moment and training etc would not feasible in these unprecedented times.
    I'm not too concerned as I am currently a CO with a different public body and looking for change . I placed quite good in my chosen counties so I'm happy with that. Going to put it out of my mind for the time being and just wait to be called for interview .

    How come you didn't apply for mobility?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭claregal1


    How come you didn't apply for mobility?

    I am in a different sector and you can only apply for mobility within that sector and I fancied a change . I'm currently with the hse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭Porthallian


    Got a notification that I had another new message on public jobs. Quickly logged in. All excited.
    It was to notify me that their email address was updated :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    As someone who has been through the public jobs process a few times in the many campaigns both full time and TCO it really is baffling just how theses things are run. Firstly the many stages that campaigns go through, ie, the online questionnaires or the "aptitude tests which are widely debunked as an accurate means of determining anything, are really only a pc way for the public jobs people to cull off applicants. The private sector does this by taking a pile of applications at random and firing them in the bin.


    Firstly having heard the aptitude tests weren't going ahead this year I was glad I applied for this campaign. I really doubt the relevance of the aptitude test because as a TCO Ive never seen anyone in any full time position, in the revenue or anywhere else, doing 30 vat calculations in under a minute and I know getting a high score in the error checking and your english language handling abilities is more important as a CO than how quickly you can bash buttons on a calculator. Also consistently coming in the top 50 in the order of merit in numerous online questioners for TCO campaigns, which are exactly the same questions as in the CO version, I thought I was in with a good chance, no because it's a total lottery.

    There are several reasons why the process takes as long as a snail reversing back a forward moving conveyor belt but one of them must be that they take several months to move goalposts especially since the results of these questionnaires and aptitude tests, all of which are on digital format, are most likely calculated on the day or within a few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭Plugguy


    Can you ask for feedback on the questionnaire?
    I got 270 Limerick

    There is a link in your message on public jobs that leads to feedback.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    TCO is good to get, the experience will be invaluable in interviews later.
    A working knowledge of SAP (if her department uses it) is great to have as well.

    Ya you have enough cynicism built up to know that these campaigns are manly run to give full timers work to do and the stages have no basis in reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    claregal1 wrote: »
    I am in a different sector and you can only apply for mobility within that sector and I fancied a change . I'm currently with the hse

    Thanks for blocking me getting a full time position


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭tritriagain


    any tips to prepare for interviews. i really dont know what to expect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 positivepenny


    Plugguy wrote: »
    There is a link in your message on public jobs that leads to feedback.

    Ya seen that thanks but wondering can you get further feedback on the 3 sections of the questionnaire?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Farlo1234


    900's for Galway and 1100's for limerick :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Conqueror


    Thanks for blocking me getting a full time position
    ClareGal works for the HSE, a public service body. This competition is for the civil service, a separate entity, and she is as entitled to enter it as you are. She hasn't "blocked" you from a full time position, and it is isn't her fault you didn't get as high a mark as she did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 giveitalash


    Got 109 oom for Westmeath and 47 for Roscommon scored 6397, what's my chances? Is there any movement in Westmeath with retirement etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭Samsgirl


    I placed 5th in my chosen county in 2018 and 219 this time. Very strange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Alv_M


    First time applying, got 200s in Cork. What are my chances of getting a job from this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 989 ✭✭✭furrybones


    Got a notification that I had another new message on public jobs. Quickly logged in. All excited.
    It was to notify me that their email address was updated :(

    Yeah, I nearly fell over myself to get to the laptop to log in. Ah well, it was a bit of excitement to break the monotony of the morning :P Now back to washing my hands and looking out the window.

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 positivepenny


    furrybones wrote: »
    Yeah, I nearly fell over myself to get to the laptop to log in. Ah well, it was a bit of excitement to break the monotony of the morning :P Now back to washing my hands and looking out the window.

    Same here.. 😂😂😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 avilaloca97


    Hi guys, I am a little bit stressed right now I've been laid off from my job due to covid -19 and the future of the business where I'm employed is very uncertain. I applied for this gig, I'm ranked 367 for Galway my score was 5837 and I ranked 309 for westmeath, I am pretty new to these competitions, should I give up hope on being called for an interview? :( Thanks guys, best of luck to all x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 navan21


    Placed mid 400's for Meath. Had some hope when I thought it was a 2 year competition but with it only being 12 months now i probably haven't a chance. Does anyone know if there are usually many positions available in Meath or if positions arise often? Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Jamescahill


    I’m in the exact same boat I finished 1270 in Dublin and don’t know if I should hope of an interview at all Im hearing many mixed opinions on it but hopefully there’s hope for us both well done on getting through regardless!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭finla


    Samsgirl wrote: »
    I placed 5th in my chosen county in 2018 and 219 this time. Very strange.

    I was top 5 last year and now 206, I thought it was strange also, a mate of mine is the same, top 5 last year and 300s now. We both put the same answers as last time. Is there a massive increase in applications? Or have they changed the way they score it.
    Weird.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭dublingirlx


    Does anyone else not think it’s all very weird... the placings I mean? Everyone seems disappointed (me included) despite feeling like we did well and based on the score we got. Everyone’s placement seems weirdly high! It’s almost as if the whole of Ireland applied. I just think there’s something off with it all. I have applied for many competitions before and have never seen this. Everyone seems to be feeling quite deflated. Hard to know what is going to happen now. I’d like to know now though, will they only interview depending on job availability in your chosen location or will they interview and your order of merit changes again and then placed on a panel? I scored in the mid 200’s for my location and it’s a small enough town so don’t think there’s much hope for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭ladz


    What civil service departments are in westmeath does anyone know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    Conqueror wrote: »
    ClareGal works for the HSE, a public service body. This competition is for the civil service, a separate entity, and she is as entitled to enter it as you are. She hasn't "blocked" you from a full time position, and it is isn't her fault you didn't get as high a mark as she did.

    Now where did I say I didn't get a high mark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    As someone who has been through the public jobs process a few times in the many campaigns both full time and TCO it really is baffling just how theses things are run. Firstly the many stages that campaigns go through, ie, the online questionnaires or the "aptitude tests which are widely debunked as an accurate means of determining anything, are really only a pc way for the public jobs people to cull off applicants. The private sector does this by taking a pile of applications at random and firing them in the bin.


    Firstly having heard the aptitude tests weren't going ahead this year I was glad I applied for this campaign. I really doubt the relevance of the aptitude test because as a TCO Ive never seen anyone in any full time position, in the revenue or anywhere else, doing 30 vat calculations in under a minute and I know getting a high score in the error checking and your english language handling abilities is more important as a CO than how quickly you can bash buttons on a calculator. Also consistently coming in the top 50 in the order of merit in numerous online questioners for TCO campaigns, which are exactly the same questions as in the CO version, I thought I was in with a good chance, no because it's a total lottery.

    There are several reasons why the process takes as long as a snail reversing back a forward moving conveyor belt but one of them must be that they take several months to move goalposts especially since the results of these questionnaires and aptitude tests, all of which are on digital format, are most likely calculated on the day or within a few days.
    Hi guys, I am a little bit stressed right now I've been laid off from my job due to covid -19 and the future of the business where I'm employed is very uncertain. I applied for this gig, I'm ranked 367 for Galway my score was 5837 and I ranked 309 for westmeath, I am pretty new to these competitions, should I give up hope on being called for an interview? :( Thanks guys, best of luck to all x

    There a good chance you could be called but Id keep breathing in the mean time


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    People need to have realistic expectations here. I believe half the civil service is in Dublin and the other half is spread out across the other 25 counties. Some counties would only have a small civil service presence and because of that there wouldn't be a great deal of jobs going in regional locations. People should by all means apply but definitely don't be counting on it. You might hear back in 2 years time, you might not hear back at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    finla wrote: »
    I was top 5 last year and now 206, I thought it was strange also, a mate of mine is the same, top 5 last year and 300s now. We both put the same answers as last time. Is there a massive increase in applications? Or have they changed the way they score it.
    Weird.

    Ranking people on the basis of that questionnaire is like predicting the price of cabbage in ten years. Of course they've changed the scoring parameters because they cant arbitrarily cull people now that the "aptitude" test is not part of this campaign. Bear in mind that the results of the COMPUTER based questionnaire were probably calculated straight after you clicked submit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Mr lebowski


    Samsgirl wrote: »
    I placed 5th in my chosen county in 2018 and 219 this time. Very strange.

    For both my counties. Comparing my oom to 2018 I was within 2 places in both counties this time!. What are the chances of that!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Conqueror


    Now where did I say I didn't get a high mark.
    You didn't, nor did I say you didn't get a high mark. But if you sarcastically thank someone for blocking you from getting a full time position, then it stands to reason that you probably didn't get as high a mark as they did. If you had a higher mark, they would be below you in the order of merit and you wouldn't need to worry about them also getting a post in this competition.

    Having gone through previous competitions, I know there are a lot of people who are understandably anxious about how they will do in this competition, and a lot of uncertainty as to whether they will get a job or even an interview. You may be one of those people. What doesn't help is being unnecessarily sarcastic towards someone who has the right to also enter the competition but who happens to have a full time job somewhere else.

    I'm going to leave it there, because sniping back and forth goes against what I think is the spirit of this thread, which is to give support and encouragement to people who are looking to start a new career. I wish you good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭pjcpolly


    Got 6466 out of 8000. Placed 39 in oom Wexford. Would anyone in the know thinks it looks positive for me.

    That's a great score....I'm also in Wexford and got placed 95 and 97 for Waterford as my second choice.

    Best of luck..:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭pjcpolly


    Did anyone notice that the booklet says there wont be anyone used off this panel after May 2021?

    Yes I noticed that...seems like its only a year long panel for a change!


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