Relaxation of restrictions Part II

Gael23 · 27-04-2020 10:03PM

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

He said (repeatedly) that he is. Along with a lot of other things.

Well he would be putting out more positive sound bites if he was

AlekSmart · 27-04-2020 10:03PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Really? Strange isn`t it that after the GE results that most FG politicians and certainly Leo wanted to go into opposition. Explain that one.

These hereditary peers.....they're liable to say anything

https://inews.co.uk/images-i.jpimedia.uk/imagefetch/https://inews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GettyImages-1194870817-760x507.jpg?&width=640

Poorside · 27-04-2020 10:05PM

Gael23 wrote: »

He is nit considering the human toll on what he is doing

That is exactly what he's considering, trying to keep people alive.

27-04-2020 10:05PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Economic fallout out will be huge regardless when there is no one to trade with.

And if it's not brought under control no one is going to trade with us anyway.

The argument on economic grounds is a red herring.

People encouraging these extended lockdowns love saying the economy is screwed anyway, as if that's one state of being. The economic fallout can be 2/4/6/8/10/20% depending on what we do, the difference between those figures in actual levels of enemployment and national debt is massive. So saying there is going to be economic fallout regardless doesn't mean we shouldn't try to keep that fallout as low as possible

FintanMcluskey · 27-04-2020 10:05PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Economic fallout out will be huge regardless when there is no one to trade with.

And if it's not brought under control no one is going to trade with us anyway.

The argument on economic grounds is a red herring.

No thats just not true. Tomorrow marks a fortnight since Spain allowed 300k workers back into construction hardware etc to restart economy. We are being unnecessarily restrictive and damaging for little reason

iamwhoiam · 27-04-2020 10:06PM

If the restrictions have to stay in place because they are not yet up to the required testing then people will be very pissed off
For weeks now we are hearing that testing and tracing has to be in place . Then bloody well get them in place

Gael23 · 27-04-2020 10:07PM

Poorside wrote: »

That is exactly what he's considering, trying to keep people alive.

Locking people up for months won’t keep some people alive. Peoplsbmental health can only be pushed so far

gozunda · 27-04-2020 10:09PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Tony Holohan seems to want to turn Ireland into a prison

Odd some seem to think that only Ireland is facing the ongoing threat of this pandemic.

Perhaps you haven't seen the news recently?

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/04/27/boris-johnson-uk-coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic-lockdown-restrictions-nhs-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn

FintanMcluskey · 27-04-2020 10:10PM

Poorside wrote: »

That is exactly what he's considering, trying to keep people alive.

I will happily give up my job in exchange for hypnosis to help me believe this short sighted train of thought.

BillyBiggs · 27-04-2020 10:10PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Im struggling to understand the rethoric that the current restrictions are the undoubtedly only way to reduce the effects of Covid. It is clear to see that Sweden have implemented an approach which is preserving life and economy. I've seen response's here to say Swedish death rate is higher per million than neighbour's of theirs but frankly that's totally irrelevant, as the reason the restrictions were implemented was to allegedly prevent hospital's having to admisinster battle field levels of triage and hundreds of thousands dead. The restrictions were introduced because of inherently flawed models and Sweden is the proof. Weather restrictions are lifted or not on Monday, nobody can prove they are the most efficient method of Covid protection

Sweden will be one of the few countries with a high level of immunity in the community, which makes it easier for them going forward. When Ireland reopens there will be much less community immunity.

What Username Guidelines · 27-04-2020 10:11PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

No thats just not true. Tomorrow marks a fortnight since Spain allowed 300k workers back into construction hardware etc to restart economy. We are being unnecessarily restrictive and damaging for little reason

True and we should be seeing a massive spike in numbers now after two weeks, but we aren’t.

Hearty80 · 27-04-2020 10:11PM

Anyone hear when the announcement is going to be made, or is that top secret AGAIN??

Gael23 · 27-04-2020 10:12PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

Anyone hear when the announcement is going to be made, or is that top secret AGAIN??

Friday or Saturday I would guess

MikeSoys · 27-04-2020 10:12PM

with all the businesses in ireland why cant we stsrt making ffp3 masks and sterilize then with uv light.. basically can we not be self sufficient ?

ek motor · 27-04-2020 10:12PM

A cautionary tale of lifting restrictions too early

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/san-francisco-had-1918-flu-under-control-then-it-lifted-n1191141

FintanMcluskey · 27-04-2020 10:14PM

ek motor wrote: »

A cautionary tale of lifting restrictions too early

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/san-francisco-had-1918-flu-under-control-then-it-lifted-n1191141

I seen this and started gearing up for an argument but its a 102 year old story

MikeSoys · 27-04-2020 10:15PM

ek motor wrote: »

A cautionary tale of lifting restrictions too early

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/san-francisco-had-1918-flu-under-control-then-it-lifted-n1191141

history has a tendency to repeat itself..
..same but different...

growleaves · 27-04-2020 10:15PM

BillyBiggs wrote: »

When Ireland reopens there will be much less community immunity.

With increased unity there'll be an opportunity for community immunity.

Hearty80 · 27-04-2020 10:16PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Friday or Saturday I would guess

So no exact time and date again? We're being treated like junior infants once more.

ek motor · 27-04-2020 10:17PM

MikeSoys wrote: »

history has a tendency to repeat itself..
..same but different...

Was about to say the same !

easypazz · 27-04-2020 10:17PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

Anyone hear when the announcement is going to be made, or is that top secret AGAIN??

They know the game is up so I expect it Monday night, just so they can get as much as they can out of their celebrity status.

Most things will start to reopen next week, either legally or via the back doors, hair salons, barbers etc.,

In fact its already happening.

Thes

Penfailed · 27-04-2020 10:17PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

So no exact time and date again? We're being treated like junior infants once more.

Would it make you feel better if you had an exact date and time? Why?

Gael23 · 27-04-2020 10:20PM

easypazz wrote: »

They know the game is up so I expect it Monday night, just so they can get as much as they can out of their celebrity status.

Most things will start to reopen next week, either legally or via the back doors, hair salons, barbers etc.,

In fact its already happening.

Thes

What do you mean by the game is up?

easypazz · 27-04-2020 10:21PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Would it make you feel better if you had an exact date and time? Why?

He already answered in the statement after his question.

Treat people like junior infants.

Its not long ago these guys wanted us all to celebrate the black and tans.

Hearty80 · 27-04-2020 10:21PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Would it make you feel better if you had an exact date and time? Why?

Yes and everyone I have spoken to, would like to know the same. What's the secrecy for?

HeidiHeidi · 27-04-2020 10:21PM

Gael23 wrote: »

What do you mean by the game is up?

"Game"

That kinda says it all.

Kermit.de.frog · 27-04-2020 10:22PM

easypazz wrote: »

They know the game is up so I expect it Monday night, just so they can get as much as they can out of their celebrity status.

Ugh, you're one of those.

Whats the angle?

Illuminati plot?
Free masons?
Lizard people?
...

FintanMcluskey · 27-04-2020 10:22PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Would it make you feel better if you had an exact date and time? Why?

Does this justify an an answer? Are you serious? Is transparency just not required in any form.? Just wait and see and perhaps some wet Monday in July Dr Tony will say Italy looks good so we will reopen barbers??

easypazz · 27-04-2020 10:23PM

Gael23 wrote: »

What do you mean by the game is up?

People won't accept an announcement that says 2 more weeks of the same restrictions.

Leo has been threatening it but he knows he won't get away with it.

2Mad2BeMad · 27-04-2020 10:23PM

Hearty80 wrote: »

So no exact time and date again? We're being treated like junior infants once more.

will most likely be Monday, if they announce any ease in restrictions (which I think they won't) they won't want to do it friday just in time for the bank holiday weekend.

If they do ease restrictions it will probably be something so mundane thats eased just to give them another 2 weeks.

I'm not complaining about it, if it has to be done then so be it. But I understand the approach they are taking.
There is clearly to many people taking the piss, or at least enough people taking the mick to start a spread again.

Went by a checkpoint today just before the red cow junction. Alot of cars been turned around... its actually surprising because you'd think if you were going to take the piss and go out on a non essiantial drive you'd at least make up a bull**** story why your out.

Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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