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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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Continuation of the "Relaxation of restrictions" from here.

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Gael23

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

He said (repeatedly) that he is. Along with a lot of other things.

Well he would be putting out more positive sound bites if he was

AlekSmart

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Really? Strange isn`t it that after the GE results that most FG politicians and certainly Leo wanted to go into opposition. Explain that one.

These hereditary peers.....they're liable to say anything

https://inews.co.uk/images-i.jpimedia.uk/imagefetch/https://inews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/GettyImages-1194870817-760x507.jpg?&width=640

Poorside

Gael23 wrote: »

He is nit considering the human toll on what he is doing

That is exactly what he's considering, trying to keep people alive.

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Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Economic fallout out will be huge regardless when there is no one to trade with.

And if it's not brought under control no one is going to trade with us anyway.

The argument on economic grounds is a red herring.

People encouraging these extended lockdowns love saying the economy is screwed anyway, as if that's one state of being. The economic fallout can be 2/4/6/8/10/20% depending on what we do, the difference between those figures in actual levels of enemployment and national debt is massive. So saying there is going to be economic fallout regardless doesn't mean we shouldn't try to keep that fallout as low as possible

FintanMcluskey

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Economic fallout out will be huge regardless when there is no one to trade with.

And if it's not brought under control no one is going to trade with us anyway.

The argument on economic grounds is a red herring.

No thats just not true. Tomorrow marks a fortnight since Spain allowed 300k workers back into construction hardware etc to restart economy. We are being unnecessarily restrictive and damaging for little reason

iamwhoiam

If the restrictions have to stay in place because they are not yet up to the required testing then people will be very pissed off
For weeks now we are hearing that testing and tracing has to be in place . Then bloody well get them in place

Gael23

Poorside wrote: »

That is exactly what he's considering, trying to keep people alive.

Locking people up for months won’t keep some people alive. Peoplsbmental health can only be pushed so far

gozunda

Gael23 wrote: »

Tony Holohan seems to want to turn Ireland into a prison

Odd some seem to think that only Ireland is facing the ongoing threat of this pandemic.

Perhaps you haven't seen the news recently?

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/04/27/boris-johnson-uk-coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic-lockdown-restrictions-nhs-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn

FintanMcluskey

Poorside wrote: »

That is exactly what he's considering, trying to keep people alive.

I will happily give up my job in exchange for hypnosis to help me believe this short sighted train of thought.

BillyBiggs

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Im struggling to understand the rethoric that the current restrictions are the undoubtedly only way to reduce the effects of Covid. It is clear to see that Sweden have implemented an approach which is preserving life and economy. I've seen response's here to say Swedish death rate is higher per million than neighbour's of theirs but frankly that's totally irrelevant, as the reason the restrictions were implemented was to allegedly prevent hospital's having to admisinster battle field levels of triage and hundreds of thousands dead. The restrictions were introduced because of inherently flawed models and Sweden is the proof. Weather restrictions are lifted or not on Monday, nobody can prove they are the most efficient method of Covid protection

Sweden will be one of the few countries with a high level of immunity in the community, which makes it easier for them going forward. When Ireland reopens there will be much less community immunity.

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FintanMcluskey wrote: »

No thats just not true. Tomorrow marks a fortnight since Spain allowed 300k workers back into construction hardware etc to restart economy. We are being unnecessarily restrictive and damaging for little reason

True and we should be seeing a massive spike in numbers now after two weeks, but we aren’t.

Hearty80

Anyone hear when the announcement is going to be made, or is that top secret AGAIN??

Gael23

Hearty80 wrote: »

Anyone hear when the announcement is going to be made, or is that top secret AGAIN??

Friday or Saturday I would guess

MikeSoys

with all the businesses in ireland why cant we stsrt making ffp3 masks and sterilize then with uv light.. basically can we not be self sufficient ?

ek motor

A cautionary tale of lifting restrictions too early

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/san-francisco-had-1918-flu-under-control-then-it-lifted-n1191141

FintanMcluskey

ek motor wrote: »

A cautionary tale of lifting restrictions too early

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/san-francisco-had-1918-flu-under-control-then-it-lifted-n1191141

I seen this and started gearing up for an argument but its a 102 year old story

MikeSoys

ek motor wrote: »

A cautionary tale of lifting restrictions too early

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/san-francisco-had-1918-flu-under-control-then-it-lifted-n1191141

history has a tendency to repeat itself..
..same but different...

growleaves

BillyBiggs wrote: »

When Ireland reopens there will be much less community immunity.

With increased unity there'll be an opportunity for community immunity.

Hearty80

Gael23 wrote: »

Friday or Saturday I would guess

So no exact time and date again? We're being treated like junior infants once more.

ek motor

MikeSoys wrote: »

history has a tendency to repeat itself..
..same but different...

Was about to say the same !

easypazz

Hearty80 wrote: »

Anyone hear when the announcement is going to be made, or is that top secret AGAIN??

They know the game is up so I expect it Monday night, just so they can get as much as they can out of their celebrity status.

Most things will start to reopen next week, either legally or via the back doors, hair salons, barbers etc.,

In fact its already happening.

Thes

Penfailed

Hearty80 wrote: »

So no exact time and date again? We're being treated like junior infants once more.

Would it make you feel better if you had an exact date and time? Why?

Gael23

easypazz wrote: »

They know the game is up so I expect it Monday night, just so they can get as much as they can out of their celebrity status.

Most things will start to reopen next week, either legally or via the back doors, hair salons, barbers etc.,

In fact its already happening.

Thes

What do you mean by the game is up?

easypazz

Penfailed wrote: »

Would it make you feel better if you had an exact date and time? Why?

He already answered in the statement after his question.

Treat people like junior infants.

Its not long ago these guys wanted us all to celebrate the black and tans.

Hearty80

Penfailed wrote: »

Would it make you feel better if you had an exact date and time? Why?

Yes and everyone I have spoken to, would like to know the same. What's the secrecy for?

HeidiHeidi

Gael23 wrote: »

What do you mean by the game is up?

"Game"

That kinda says it all.

Kermit.de.frog

easypazz wrote: »

They know the game is up so I expect it Monday night, just so they can get as much as they can out of their celebrity status.

Ugh, you're one of those.

Whats the angle?

Illuminati plot?
Free masons?
Lizard people?
...

FintanMcluskey

Penfailed wrote: »

Would it make you feel better if you had an exact date and time? Why?

Does this justify an an answer? Are you serious? Is transparency just not required in any form.? Just wait and see and perhaps some wet Monday in July Dr Tony will say Italy looks good so we will reopen barbers??

easypazz

Gael23 wrote: »

What do you mean by the game is up?

People won't accept an announcement that says 2 more weeks of the same restrictions.

Leo has been threatening it but he knows he won't get away with it.

2Mad2BeMad

Hearty80 wrote: »

So no exact time and date again? We're being treated like junior infants once more.

will most likely be Monday, if they announce any ease in restrictions (which I think they won't) they won't want to do it friday just in time for the bank holiday weekend.

If they do ease restrictions it will probably be something so mundane thats eased just to give them another 2 weeks.

I'm not complaining about it, if it has to be done then so be it. But I understand the approach they are taking.
There is clearly to many people taking the piss, or at least enough people taking the mick to start a spread again.

Went by a checkpoint today just before the red cow junction. Alot of cars been turned around... its actually surprising because you'd think if you were going to take the piss and go out on a non essiantial drive you'd at least make up a bull**** story why your out.