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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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Continuation of the "Relaxation of restrictions" from here.

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Kermit.de.frog

easypazz wrote: »

I know people who have made appointments and got hair cuts.

Well that settles that. You know people who made appointments and got hair cuts in barber shops?

[Deleted User]

I genuinely believe that we’re already killing more people than saving by staying in lockdown.

The same governments asking us to stay in lockdown now will be the ones hitting us hard with austerity budgets to pay the bill. The banks giving you a pay holiday now will be taken your house a year or so down the line if you don’t pay them back.

For most people, this country never fully recovered from 2008. The recession and austerity budgets that lie ahead will lead to way more deaths than Covid 19.

That’s without even mentioning all the people that have currently had important medical appointments cancelled.

Restrictions are fine. Lockdown is not.

[Deleted User]

easypazz wrote: »

I know people who have made appointments and got hair cuts.

open barbers already got discussed here today.

Was on UK radio was well today. Even had a mobile barber on, who was working away. Its the new black market....

iamwhoiam

Gael23 wrote: »

What’s the justification not to. All we have been asked to do has been d one

My guess is because the test and trace is not yet in place . If it’s for that reason people wil be rightly pissed off

Gael23

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

will most likely be Monday, if they announce any ease in restrictions (which I think they won't) they won't want to do it friday just in time for the bank holiday weekend.

If they do ease restrictions it will probably be something so mundane thats eased just to give them another 2 weeks.

I'm not complaining about it, if it has to be done then so be it. But I understand the approach they are taking.
There is clearly to many people taking the piss, or at least enough people taking the mick to start a spread again.

Went by a checkpoint today just before the red cow junction. Alot of cars been turned around... its actually surprising because you'd think if you were going to take the piss and go out on a non essiantial drive you'd at least make up a bull**** story why your out.

What’s the justification not to. All we have been asked to do has been d one

easypazz

statesaver wrote: »

Who is ' they ' ? Is there a conspiracy going on that I don't know about ?

Hair salons and barbers have no chance of opening even by the back door, I was surprised you didn't add pubs just for added trolling

I know people who have made appointments and got hair cuts.

open barbers already got discussed here today.

LessOutragePlz

If they announce another 2 weeks of restrictions which I'm hoping they don't. Then they will need some sort of plan they can't just keep extending this lockdown indefinitely. Most people won't accept that, they need a plan of action and not just the usual line "that we'll evaluate the situation in another 2 weeks" that's simply not good enough.

Birdie Num Num

Spencer Brown wrote: »

What? I stated facts, it has nothing to do with where I live. Things spread more quickly in densely populated areas, that applies to culture and idea not just viruses. I’m not advocating different measures for different parts of the country, I’m merely stating that what is required in other countries isn’t necessarily right for Ireland. That applies to both stricter and laxer measures covering different things depending on what they are.

Is that not the case here in Ireland? Already different measures in place here than in other countries and different timings in adopting measures. So surely the lifting of restrictions should be treated similarly. Not necessarily lifting those restrictions or championing same because of what Spain or Italy has done.

Jizique

Augeo wrote: »

Restaurant sector is in trouble. They want VAT to 0% along with rates being reduced to zero for as long as the need to implement social distancing in their premises. ......... https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0427/1134970-covid19-coronavirus-restaurants/

- a call for a 0% rate of VAT for the duration of the crisis and the year after it, followed by a 9% rate for the next five years.

- banks to waive fees until a vaccine is found, as well as a moratorium on existing loan repayments and the application of ECB rates on loans.

- On insurance, it wants pay-outs assured for restaurants that have business interruption cover, along with forbearance and a guarantee that cover will not be suspended while firms are closed.

- In relation to rents, the RAI plan calls for new laws to protect commercial lease holders and an assurance that mortgage holidays would be passed through to lease holders by landlords.

This could also involve the Government supplementing rent payments for a period.

Regarding wages, the sector is seeking continued supports until a vaccine is found.

It is also seeking grants from Government to help firms with liquidity over the six months after they resume opening.

The RAI also wants a ban on utility companies cutting off services and seeking payments when restaurants are closed.

On the issue of rates, the plan envisages a write-off for restaurants and hospitality firms until a vaccine is found.

In order to encourage social distancing, the industry wants licenses for outdoor tables and chairs waived for a year.

Grants FFS!
Whatever merit one might find in an interest free loan which is ranks above all other creditors, there is zero justification for a grant.
Jay Bourke, that Sweeney chap and the Bang brothers are just a few of the resteraunteurs who have screwed their staff and creditors in recent years

statesaver

easypazz wrote: »

They know the game is up so I expect it Monday night, just so they can get as much as they can out of their celebrity status.

Most things will start to reopen next week, either legally or via the back doors, hair salons, barbers etc.,

In fact its already happening.

Thes

Who is ' they ' ? Is there a conspiracy going on that I don't know about ?

Hair salons and barbers have no chance of opening even by the back door, I was surprised you didn't add pubs just for added trolling

JeffKenna

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Ugh, you're one of those.

Whats the angle?

Illuminati plot?
Free masons?
Lizard people?
...

NWO

KrustyUCC

Why not?

Restrictions are up to Midnight 4th of May

These things are well known in advance as to when speeches will be made

NPHET will meet on Friday but the real decisions will be set in motion tomorrow

RTE etc are well tipped off in advance re speeches

Why not the public?

pjohnson

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Oh, you're one of those.

Whats the angle?

Illuminati plot?
Free masons?
Lizard people?

Fantasising about some kind of peoples rebellion.

The usual basically that is due every year.

Gael23

With a drop in deaths and new cases like today along with other countries pending up, I can’t see any way they can justify not easing measures and if they don’t people will anyway

2Mad2BeMad

Hearty80 wrote: »

So no exact time and date again? We're being treated like junior infants once more.

will most likely be Monday, if they announce any ease in restrictions (which I think they won't) they won't want to do it friday just in time for the bank holiday weekend.

If they do ease restrictions it will probably be something so mundane thats eased just to give them another 2 weeks.

I'm not complaining about it, if it has to be done then so be it. But I understand the approach they are taking.
There is clearly to many people taking the piss, or at least enough people taking the mick to start a spread again.

Went by a checkpoint today just before the red cow junction. Alot of cars been turned around... its actually surprising because you'd think if you were going to take the piss and go out on a non essiantial drive you'd at least make up a bull**** story why your out.

easypazz

Gael23 wrote: »

What do you mean by the game is up?

People won't accept an announcement that says 2 more weeks of the same restrictions.

Leo has been threatening it but he knows he won't get away with it.

FintanMcluskey

Penfailed wrote: »

Would it make you feel better if you had an exact date and time? Why?

Does this justify an an answer? Are you serious? Is transparency just not required in any form.? Just wait and see and perhaps some wet Monday in July Dr Tony will say Italy looks good so we will reopen barbers??

Kermit.de.frog

easypazz wrote: »

They know the game is up so I expect it Monday night, just so they can get as much as they can out of their celebrity status.

Ugh, you're one of those.

Whats the angle?

Illuminati plot?
Free masons?
Lizard people?
...

HeidiHeidi

Gael23 wrote: »

What do you mean by the game is up?

"Game"

That kinda says it all.

Hearty80

Penfailed wrote: »

Would it make you feel better if you had an exact date and time? Why?

Yes and everyone I have spoken to, would like to know the same. What's the secrecy for?

easypazz

Penfailed wrote: »

Would it make you feel better if you had an exact date and time? Why?

He already answered in the statement after his question.

Treat people like junior infants.

Its not long ago these guys wanted us all to celebrate the black and tans.

Gael23

easypazz wrote: »

They know the game is up so I expect it Monday night, just so they can get as much as they can out of their celebrity status.

Most things will start to reopen next week, either legally or via the back doors, hair salons, barbers etc.,

In fact its already happening.

Thes

What do you mean by the game is up?

Penfailed

Hearty80 wrote: »

So no exact time and date again? We're being treated like junior infants once more.

Would it make you feel better if you had an exact date and time? Why?

easypazz

Hearty80 wrote: »

Anyone hear when the announcement is going to be made, or is that top secret AGAIN??

They know the game is up so I expect it Monday night, just so they can get as much as they can out of their celebrity status.

Most things will start to reopen next week, either legally or via the back doors, hair salons, barbers etc.,

In fact its already happening.

Thes

ek motor

MikeSoys wrote: »

history has a tendency to repeat itself..
..same but different...

Was about to say the same !

Hearty80

Gael23 wrote: »

Friday or Saturday I would guess

So no exact time and date again? We're being treated like junior infants once more.

growleaves

BillyBiggs wrote: »

When Ireland reopens there will be much less community immunity.

With increased unity there'll be an opportunity for community immunity.

MikeSoys

ek motor wrote: »

A cautionary tale of lifting restrictions too early

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/san-francisco-had-1918-flu-under-control-then-it-lifted-n1191141

history has a tendency to repeat itself..
..same but different...

FintanMcluskey

ek motor wrote: »

A cautionary tale of lifting restrictions too early

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/san-francisco-had-1918-flu-under-control-then-it-lifted-n1191141

I seen this and started gearing up for an argument but its a 102 year old story

ek motor

A cautionary tale of lifting restrictions too early

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/san-francisco-had-1918-flu-under-control-then-it-lifted-n1191141