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    #92
    Robson99
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    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2003-case-cs-78/24425091

    This looks a cheap tractor for someone with a budget of 15k


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    #93
    hopeso
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    I'm almost certain it's a round axle, which would mean it's probably a little over priced at that. It does have the 212 engine, though... One of these in good condition is as simple and straightforward as you're likely to get in a tractor. Would go on for ever with a little maintenance and care. Basically an oversized 135 that will handle most bales....

    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/165-with-taxbook/24563536


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    #94
    Fine Day
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    Robson99 wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2003-case-cs-78/24425091

    This looks a cheap tractor for someone with a budget of 15k

    Id say way way over budget for this man. But never the less it seems a very genuine machine. There are a good reliable machine. Driven one a couple of times and it was grand and tidy and nice machine to operate. However I believe from talking to a person in the trade these tractors are steyr and the availability a spare parts in the future is now coming a concern to guys. This may be the reason its not overly expensive. Not long ago these tractors were making decent money. I look at one three years ago, it had a midland tanco loader on it and the main case dealer was looking for 26k for it and was not moving on price either. So I left it to him and bought a John Deere instead.


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    #95
    bcklschaps
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    OP, as others have alluded to already, buy a decent tractor thats big enough to comfortably do the jobs needed and is safe and reliable and maybe more important than anything is 'easy to use'. No point buying the latest wizz bang yoke.... thats far too big and complex ....just something simple and well cared for.


    Let your uncle have a bit of comfort..... A nice tractor won't lose much in depreciation as long as its minded. Sell it on in the future for basically what you paid for it.

    Also... if you buy a pile of s**** your uncle will forget pretty quick the bargain price you got it for.... If it won't work the day he wants it.... (and guess who'll get it in the neck?????)


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    #96
    hopeso
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    Robson99 wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2003-case-cs-78/24425091

    This looks a cheap tractor for someone with a budget of 15k

    The “Sold as seen” quote in the description suggests to me that there’s something expensive needed on that tractor. It’s way under valued at that money.


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    #97
    Bass Reeves
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    hopeso wrote: »
    The “Sold as seen” quote in the description suggests to me that there’s something expensive needed on that tractor. It’s way under valued at that money.

    I am not sure it is undervalued. Generally with tractors dealers turn them over on there trade in value. In this case it may have been traded in competitively. As with any second hand tractor you need to get it checked out whether it is from a private or dealer sale. The only advantage of a warranty is if the tractor is bought a distance away you can do this after. The tractor look fresh but it has no loader. The demand for this size tractor is as a stockman tractor. A loader will cost 5K minimum and more than likely you will have to go new or the brackets anyways. Loader will cost 7K+ IMO. With a loader she would cost 22ish with a warranty at 15K in a straight sale with no warranty it in the ballpark of what it is worth.

    It a great stock man's tractor on one hand capable of lifting two bales on the back end. Real tidy yard tractor but the elephant in the room is parts availability in the longterm. However if it is a straight tractor and I was only doing 2-300 hours/year on a drystock farm I would consider gambling it. But a loader is the issue at 22K you have other choices

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #98
    Donald Trump
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    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    I am not sure it is undervalued. Generally with tractors dealers turn them over on there trade in value. In this case it may have been traded in competitively. As with any second hand tractor you need to get it checked out whether it is from a private or dealer sale. The only advantage of a warranty is if the tractor is bought a distance away you can do this after. The tractor look fresh but it has no loader. The demand for this size tractor is as a stockman tractor. A loader will cost 5K minimum and more than likely you will have to go new or the brackets anyways. Loader will cost 7K+ IMO. With a loader she would cost 22ish with a warranty at 15K in a straight sale with no warranty it in the ballpark of what it is worth.

    It a great stock man's tractor on one hand capable of lifting two bales on the back end. Real tidy yard tractor but the elephant in the room is parts availability in the longterm. However if it is a straight tractor and I was only doing 2-300 hours/year on a drystock farm I would consider gambling it. But a loader is the issue at 22K you have other choices


    Not having had a loader previously might be no harm for a yoke that size when you are buying secondhand. I know it leaves it expensive if you want to put one on it, but otherwise there'd be much less wear and tear up front

    (I still think you'd get better value than it anyway)


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    #99
    Jb1989
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    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Not having had a loader previously might be no harm for a yoke that size when you are buying secondhand. I know it leaves it expensive if you want to put one on it, but otherwise there'd be much less wear and tear up front

    (I still think you'd get better value than it anyway)

    Op isn't looking a loader.


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    #100
    Bass Reeves
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    Jb1989 wrote: »
    Op isn't looking a loader.

    We are not talking about OP's tractor her budget is 5kish. We were posting about the CS 78 and whether it was under or over priced

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #101
    selectamatic
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    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/case-885/24535885

    If comfort is a priority OP then something like this would be hard beat. Serious engine in them that punches well above it's weight. Transmission is quirky but once you get used to them they're fine.

    Also just to add on the dealer talk the Brogans are all sound to deal with and may have something in stock to suit your budget. I've had dealings with Kevin in Ballymoe and Pat in strokestown and both were upfront and honest.

    Clarkes in Ballindine are sound too but they might not have anything in stock to suit the budget.


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    #102
    Nekarsulm
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    selectamatic wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/case-885/24535885

    If comfort is a priority OP then something like this would be hard beat. Serious engine in them that punches well above it's weight. Transmission is quirky but once you get used to them they're fine.

    Also just to add on the dealer talk the Brogans are all sound to deal with and may have something in stock to suit your budget. I've had dealings with Kevin in Ballymoe and Pat in strokestown and both were upfront and honest.

    Clarkes in Ballindine are sound too but they might not have anything in stock to suit the budget.

    Worth a look surely, but I'd be afraid there won't be much left of the bottom of the doors, or more importantly, the bottom front lower corners of the cab in a few years.
    He's already sprayed over the rust holes as it is, and sprayed the engine black as well, without too much concern of where the spray went.
    On the plus side, the cab roof cladding looks dry, so if it's good mechanically I'd bargain hard, quoting the cost of getting the cab corners cut out and replaced.


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    #103
    orm0nd
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    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Worth a look surely, but I'd be afraid there won't be much left of the bottom of the doors, or more importantly, the bottom front lower corners of the cab in a few years.
    He's already sprayed over the rust holes as it is, and sprayed the engine black as well, without too much concern of where the spray went.
    On the plus side, the cab roof cladding looks dry, so if it's good mechanically I'd bargain hard, quoting the cost of getting the cab corners cut out and replaced.

    decals on doors says 785 ,


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    #104
    Anniepower
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    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ih-885xl/23642909

    Any opinions on this guys? I was talking to the seller today few things he pointed out seemed genuine and only had it for tipping around as he only had a tiny bit of ground.

    - second diesal tank not working
    - clock hasn’t worked and never worked for them
    - right hand door is a bit funny when you shut it.

    Might go for a look at her one of the days this week if i can get away with it.


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    #105
    AgriLad
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    A bit unusual that it’s been up for 87 days and still hasn’t sold..


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    #106
    selectamatic
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    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/case-international-885/24438628

    Cheap and chancey machine here. But could be alot of tractor for the money.

    Uncomfy L cab though.


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    #107
    Nekarsulm
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    Back in post no.48 I mentioned a Deutx DX series tractor.
    Was in one today, and must admit it's probably not for an older person. ( unless they are slim and agile)
    Something about the angle of the steps, and the way the inner framework of those glass doors is arranged, makes getting in and out a bit awkward, and slightly dangerous.


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    #108
    Jjameson
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    https://www.donedeal.ie/view/24663685

    A chape little outfit. Won’t lose a cent.


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    #109
    hopeso
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    Jjameson wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/view/24663685

    A chape little outfit. Won’t lose a cent.

    It looks like value, if it’s had all the new parts listed fitted....


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    #110
    hopeso
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    Jjameson wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/view/24663685

    A chape little outfit. Won’t lose a cent.

    Ad is gone now.... It sounded very cheap for the amount of money that was spent on it. I wonder if the ad was dodgy, or did someone get a bargain?


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    #111
    Anniepower
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    hopeso wrote: »
    Ad is gone now.... It sounded very cheap for the amount of money that was spent on it. I wonder if the ad was dodgy, or did someone get a bargain?

    Was put up on DD around 10 or that at night I wonder myself. A quick sale for the owner if he did sell.

    Maybe he had a fair few callers and decided he may repost for a higher price you don’t know I suppose


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    #112
    blue5000
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    Anniepower wrote: »
    Was put up on DD around 10 or that at night I wonder myself. A quick sale for the owner if he did sell.

    Maybe he had a fair few callers and decided he may repost for a higher price you don’t know I suppose

    All the (lazy fookers) viewers that were on here looking for a good value runabout:D

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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    #113
    hopeso
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    Anniepower wrote: »
    Was put up on DD around 10 or that at night I wonder myself. A quick sale for the owner if he did sell.

    Maybe he had a fair few callers and decided he may repost for a higher price you don’t know I suppose

    The amount of repairs and new parts listed in the ad probably cost more than what he was asking, for what looked like a decent tractor on good tyres. Something didn't add up......


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    #114
    hopeso
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    A little over budget, but if it’s as good as he claims, there should be no unexpected expense afterwards.... https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ford-4000/24353127


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    #115
    Bass Reeves
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    I know it's outside Annie's budget but here a tractor if a lad was willing to go up towards 15k euro. AFAIK it's on the 60HP bracket. it has a lift capability agan AFAIK of about 1.4 ton. But a modern tractor way better value than a MF 360. I presume it is +vat but if not it a neat wee tractor and I bet a 30k box on it

    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2012-new-holland-2-wd/24227870

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #116
    selectamatic
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    JD 2140
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/john-deere-2140/23642446

    JD 3140
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/john-deere-3140-high-lift-dungannon/19115275

    2 cheap JD's with comfortable cabs here could be good value. The 3140 is a bit on the big side but it's near the budget :pac:


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    #117
    Jjameson
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    selectamatic wrote: »
    JD 2140
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/john-deere-2140/23642446

    JD 3140
    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/john-deere-3140-high-lift-dungannon/19115275

    2 cheap JD's with comfortable cabs here could be good value. The 3140 is a bit on the big side but it's near the budget :pac:
    The 3140 isn’t really a runabout but looks good value if it’s going anyaway well


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    #118
    selectamatic
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    Jjameson wrote: »
    The 3140 isn’t really a runabout but looks good value if it’s going anyaway well

    Ya it's not really suitable but it is cheap.

    Often good value to be had in older 6 cylinder tractors, in particular 2wd ones. Not ideal for many but if a man has suitable land and doesn't particularly mind the added fuel consumption comfortable capable tractors can be picked up at relatively cheap prices.


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    #119
    hopeso
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    Round axle, I'd say...but looks decent enough.... https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/massey-165/24680419


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    #120
    Jjameson
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    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/john-deere-2-wd-with-loader/24471721

    Winner winner chicken dinner


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    #121
    almostover
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    hopeso wrote: »
    Round axle, I'd say...but looks decent enough.... https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/massey-165/24680419

    Lovely tractor but a hateful yoke to drive. Thinking of the clutch pedal on them gives me nightmares. That and you need a right leg 6 inches longer than your left leg to press the foot throttle down fully.

    Grand if you will only spend an hour or so at a time up on the tractor though and they are dead simple to maintain with good parts availability.


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