Run around tractor

hopeso

I'm almost certain it's a round axle, which would mean it's probably a little over priced at that. It does have the 212 engine, though... One of these in good condition is as simple and straightforward as you're likely to get in a tractor. Would go on for ever with a little maintenance and care. Basically an oversized 135 that will handle most bales....

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/165-with-taxbook/24563536

Fine Day

Robson99 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2003-case-cs-78/24425091

This looks a cheap tractor for someone with a budget of 15k

Id say way way over budget for this man. But never the less it seems a very genuine machine. There are a good reliable machine. Driven one a couple of times and it was grand and tidy and nice machine to operate. However I believe from talking to a person in the trade these tractors are steyr and the availability a spare parts in the future is now coming a concern to guys. This may be the reason its not overly expensive. Not long ago these tractors were making decent money. I look at one three years ago, it had a midland tanco loader on it and the main case dealer was looking for 26k for it and was not moving on price either. So I left it to him and bought a John Deere instead.

bcklschaps

OP, as others have alluded to already, buy a decent tractor thats big enough to comfortably do the jobs needed and is safe and reliable and maybe more important than anything is 'easy to use'. No point buying the latest wizz bang yoke.... thats far too big and complex ....just something simple and well cared for.


Let your uncle have a bit of comfort..... A nice tractor won't lose much in depreciation as long as its minded. Sell it on in the future for basically what you paid for it.

Also... if you buy a pile of s**** your uncle will forget pretty quick the bargain price you got it for.... If it won't work the day he wants it.... (and guess who'll get it in the neck?????)

hopeso

Robson99 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2003-case-cs-78/24425091

This looks a cheap tractor for someone with a budget of 15k

The “Sold as seen” quote in the description suggests to me that there’s something expensive needed on that tractor. It’s way under valued at that money.

Bass Reeves

hopeso wrote: »

The “Sold as seen” quote in the description suggests to me that there’s something expensive needed on that tractor. It’s way under valued at that money.

I am not sure it is undervalued. Generally with tractors dealers turn them over on there trade in value. In this case it may have been traded in competitively. As with any second hand tractor you need to get it checked out whether it is from a private or dealer sale. The only advantage of a warranty is if the tractor is bought a distance away you can do this after. The tractor look fresh but it has no loader. The demand for this size tractor is as a stockman tractor. A loader will cost 5K minimum and more than likely you will have to go new or the brackets anyways. Loader will cost 7K+ IMO. With a loader she would cost 22ish with a warranty at 15K in a straight sale with no warranty it in the ballpark of what it is worth.

It a great stock man's tractor on one hand capable of lifting two bales on the back end. Real tidy yard tractor but the elephant in the room is parts availability in the longterm. However if it is a straight tractor and I was only doing 2-300 hours/year on a drystock farm I would consider gambling it. But a loader is the issue at 22K you have other choices

Donald Trump

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I am not sure it is undervalued. Generally with tractors dealers turn them over on there trade in value. In this case it may have been traded in competitively. As with any second hand tractor you need to get it checked out whether it is from a private or dealer sale. The only advantage of a warranty is if the tractor is bought a distance away you can do this after. The tractor look fresh but it has no loader. The demand for this size tractor is as a stockman tractor. A loader will cost 5K minimum and more than likely you will have to go new or the brackets anyways. Loader will cost 7K+ IMO. With a loader she would cost 22ish with a warranty at 15K in a straight sale with no warranty it in the ballpark of what it is worth.

It a great stock man's tractor on one hand capable of lifting two bales on the back end. Real tidy yard tractor but the elephant in the room is parts availability in the longterm. However if it is a straight tractor and I was only doing 2-300 hours/year on a drystock farm I would consider gambling it. But a loader is the issue at 22K you have other choices

Not having had a loader previously might be no harm for a yoke that size when you are buying secondhand. I know it leaves it expensive if you want to put one on it, but otherwise there'd be much less wear and tear up front

(I still think you'd get better value than it anyway)

Jb1989

Donald Trump wrote: »

Not having had a loader previously might be no harm for a yoke that size when you are buying secondhand. I know it leaves it expensive if you want to put one on it, but otherwise there'd be much less wear and tear up front

(I still think you'd get better value than it anyway)

Op isn't looking a loader.

Bass Reeves

Jb1989 wrote: »

Op isn't looking a loader.

We are not talking about OP's tractor her budget is 5kish. We were posting about the CS 78 and whether it was under or over priced

selectamatic

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/case-885/24535885

If comfort is a priority OP then something like this would be hard beat. Serious engine in them that punches well above it's weight. Transmission is quirky but once you get used to them they're fine.

Also just to add on the dealer talk the Brogans are all sound to deal with and may have something in stock to suit your budget. I've had dealings with Kevin in Ballymoe and Pat in strokestown and both were upfront and honest.

Clarkes in Ballindine are sound too but they might not have anything in stock to suit the budget.

Nekarsulm

selectamatic wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/case-885/24535885

If comfort is a priority OP then something like this would be hard beat. Serious engine in them that punches well above it's weight. Transmission is quirky but once you get used to them they're fine.

Also just to add on the dealer talk the Brogans are all sound to deal with and may have something in stock to suit your budget. I've had dealings with Kevin in Ballymoe and Pat in strokestown and both were upfront and honest.

Clarkes in Ballindine are sound too but they might not have anything in stock to suit the budget.

Worth a look surely, but I'd be afraid there won't be much left of the bottom of the doors, or more importantly, the bottom front lower corners of the cab in a few years.
He's already sprayed over the rust holes as it is, and sprayed the engine black as well, without too much concern of where the spray went.
On the plus side, the cab roof cladding looks dry, so if it's good mechanically I'd bargain hard, quoting the cost of getting the cab corners cut out and replaced.

orm0nd

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Worth a look surely, but I'd be afraid there won't be much left of the bottom of the doors, or more importantly, the bottom front lower corners of the cab in a few years.
He's already sprayed over the rust holes as it is, and sprayed the engine black as well, without too much concern of where the spray went.
On the plus side, the cab roof cladding looks dry, so if it's good mechanically I'd bargain hard, quoting the cost of getting the cab corners cut out and replaced.

decals on doors says 785 ,

Anniepower

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ih-885xl/23642909

Any opinions on this guys? I was talking to the seller today few things he pointed out seemed genuine and only had it for tipping around as he only had a tiny bit of ground.

- second diesal tank not working
- clock hasn’t worked and never worked for them
- right hand door is a bit funny when you shut it.

Might go for a look at her one of the days this week if i can get away with it.

AgriLad

A bit unusual that it’s been up for 87 days and still hasn’t sold..

selectamatic

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/case-international-885/24438628

Cheap and chancey machine here. But could be alot of tractor for the money.

Uncomfy L cab though.

Nekarsulm

Back in post no.48 I mentioned a Deutx DX series tractor.
Was in one today, and must admit it's probably not for an older person. ( unless they are slim and agile)
Something about the angle of the steps, and the way the inner framework of those glass doors is arranged, makes getting in and out a bit awkward, and slightly dangerous.

hopeso

Jjameson wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/24663685

A chape little outfit. Won’t lose a cent.

It looks like value, if it’s had all the new parts listed fitted....

hopeso

Jjameson wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/24663685

A chape little outfit. Won’t lose a cent.

Ad is gone now.... It sounded very cheap for the amount of money that was spent on it. I wonder if the ad was dodgy, or did someone get a bargain?

Anniepower

hopeso wrote: »

Ad is gone now.... It sounded very cheap for the amount of money that was spent on it. I wonder if the ad was dodgy, or did someone get a bargain?

Was put up on DD around 10 or that at night I wonder myself. A quick sale for the owner if he did sell.

Maybe he had a fair few callers and decided he may repost for a higher price you don’t know I suppose

blue5000

Anniepower wrote: »

Was put up on DD around 10 or that at night I wonder myself. A quick sale for the owner if he did sell.

Maybe he had a fair few callers and decided he may repost for a higher price you don’t know I suppose

All the (lazy fookers) viewers that were on here looking for a good value runabout:D

hopeso

Anniepower wrote: »

Was put up on DD around 10 or that at night I wonder myself. A quick sale for the owner if he did sell.

Maybe he had a fair few callers and decided he may repost for a higher price you don’t know I suppose

The amount of repairs and new parts listed in the ad probably cost more than what he was asking, for what looked like a decent tractor on good tyres. Something didn't add up......

hopeso

A little over budget, but if it’s as good as he claims, there should be no unexpected expense afterwards.... https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ford-4000/24353127

Bass Reeves

I know it's outside Annie's budget but here a tractor if a lad was willing to go up towards 15k euro. AFAIK it's on the 60HP bracket. it has a lift capability agan AFAIK of about 1.4 ton. But a modern tractor way better value than a MF 360. I presume it is +vat but if not it a neat wee tractor and I bet a 30k box on it

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2012-new-holland-2-wd/24227870

selectamatic

JD 2140
https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/john-deere-2140/23642446

JD 3140
https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/john-deere-3140-high-lift-dungannon/19115275

2 cheap JD's with comfortable cabs here could be good value. The 3140 is a bit on the big side but it's near the budget :pac:

selectamatic

Jjameson wrote: »

The 3140 isn’t really a runabout but looks good value if it’s going anyaway well

Ya it's not really suitable but it is cheap.

Often good value to be had in older 6 cylinder tractors, in particular 2wd ones. Not ideal for many but if a man has suitable land and doesn't particularly mind the added fuel consumption comfortable capable tractors can be picked up at relatively cheap prices.

hopeso

Round axle, I'd say...but looks decent enough.... https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/massey-165/24680419

almostover

hopeso wrote: »

Round axle, I'd say...but looks decent enough.... https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/massey-165/24680419

Lovely tractor but a hateful yoke to drive. Thinking of the clutch pedal on them gives me nightmares. That and you need a right leg 6 inches longer than your left leg to press the foot throttle down fully.

Grand if you will only spend an hour or so at a time up on the tractor though and they are dead simple to maintain with good parts availability.

selectamatic

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/david-brown/24673223

David Brown 1390 here. I'd say the seller would take the 135 as a trade in too.

hopeso

almostover wrote: »

Grand if you will only spend an hour or so at a time up on the tractor though and they are dead simple to maintain with good parts availability.

Exactly what the OP wants, I think..... Plus, a 100 series Massey will sell again no bother whenever you want to get rid of it. It wouldn't matter what condition it's in. Indeed, if it was well minded, it would increase in value.....

Bass Reeves

hopeso wrote: »

Exactly what the OP wants, I think..... Plus, a 100 series Massey will sell again no bother whenever you want to get rid of it. It wouldn't matter what condition it's in. Indeed, if it was well minded, it would increase in value.....

You always hear this about certain older tractors. 1,2and 3 series Massey's. Some of the older Fords etc. In general those days are gone as these tractors are no longer functional on farms. No farmer dealing with any amount of silage will look at a 1 series. Most 3 series have are floor change and trying to do any amount of yard work is a pain where you have to move two gear sticks to go from forward to reverse if you want any sort of speed maintained.

Yes some of these tractors are what the OP is looking for but thinking that they will maintain there value is not true. In reality most tractors you buy in what OP wants will maintain there value to a certain extent but functionality is the requirement with a low maintenance bill

hopeso

Bass Reeves wrote: »

You always hear this about certain older tractors. 1,2and 3 series Massey's. Some of the older Fords etc. In general those days are gone as these tractors are no longer functional on farms. No farmer dealing with any amount of silage will look at a 1 series. Most 3 series have are floor change and trying to do any amount of yard work is a pain where you have to move two gear sticks to go from forward to reverse if you want any sort of speed maintained.

Yes some of these tractors are what the OP is looking for but thinking that they will maintain there value is not true. In reality most tractors you buy in what OP wants will maintain there value to a certain extent but functionality is the requirement with a low maintenance bill

With the Op's budget, they shouldn't be looking beyond a 100 series Massey, or similar Ford. Absolutely, they are getting long in the tooth now, and lack the comfort of newer machines, but they are still more than capable of doing the work outlined in the OP's opening post.
The OP seems to be drawn to Internationals, but, their budget will only get them a below average example of an XL cab International, while it will get them an above average 100 series Massey. While any tractor will give bother, the Massey should be more reliable, if only because there's less to go wrong on it, and will be easier to repair too. There will always be demand for those old Masseys too. So, it will sell again in future, no matter what condition it's in. The OP has a 135 in poor condition, so can test that theory for themselves by putting it up on Donedeal. Try selling an XL International in poor condition, needing repairs and see how well you get on. Indeed, the last one the OP linked here is on Donedeal for ages now......