Relaxation of restrictions Part II

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Can't speak for others but today was one of the worst days I've seen since the lockdown started in terms of people not respecting the guidelines. There was nothing to suggest there was a problem at all based on the volume of people out and about. Lots of youths on bikes, and I spotted three of them sitting on the grass, hanging out. Not that they're the only demographic at fault. Plenty of middle-aged types out in groups, mostly dog walkers, stopping to have a chat with no distancing.

I can't call what I saw today a lockdown. To me there was no discernible difference from what I saw compared to last year, or any other year. The message from the government appears to be falling on deaf (or dumb, or both) ears.

Did you see all this from your house

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Can't speak for others but today was one of the worst days I've seen since the lockdown started in terms of people not respecting the guidelines. There was nothing to suggest there was a problem at all based on the volume of people out and about. Lots of youths on bikes, and I spotted three of them sitting on the grass, hanging out. Not that they're the only demographic at fault. Plenty of middle-aged types out in groups, mostly dog walkers, stopping to have a chat with no distancing.

I can't call what I saw today a lockdown. To me there was no discernible difference from what I saw compared to last year, or any other year. The message from the government appears to be falling on deaf (or dumb, or both) ears.

I’m so sick and tired of people being made feel guilty for being out and about in fine weather.
The outbreak is in nursing and care homes now. So what if people are sitting on the grass having a chat as long as they’re keeping their distance.

This idea coming from government we’re all being ‘bold’ for living our lives is really annoying me. And more of if again this evening on Six One.
I actually supported the government and Fine Gael in last election but if they don’t wise up they’re lost my support.
God forbid people living within 2km of Salthill walk along the prom for their daily exercise?
Give me a break. The death rate is much lower than thought, our figures don’t even justify this current lockdown never mind an extension.

And to the poster accusing people of endangering their Grandparents...it is up to them to protect themselves if they choose to risk going out & about or meeting grandchildren. It does not in any way justify hundreds of thousands without work, mental health distress, billions lost to the taxpayer, and a totalitarian type response.

We cannot even drive to our nearest Dunnes as ‘there are other supermarkets close by’ we’ve been told at Garda checkpoints. Yes there are & they’re far more expensive. I didn’t give the Gardai or the state permission to tell me where I could do my shop or take away my freedoms if not justified.

setanta1984 wrote: »

Its soul-destroying to see country after country around europe announce their plans to reopen while we sit here in the dark. It's depressing.

We were always decades behind the rest of the continent in most regards. Not surprising in this instance. So many here are incapable of independent or critical thought. They must be told what is correct by someone else. How we managed to eventually become a liberal democracy is a mystery with such a huge wedge of people crying out for a police enforced nanny state.

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Well you see Germany, Austria Portugal etc have actual governments, not an assortment of cowards who live and die by what's said about them on social media.

Germany has done a lot more testing and has much better figures than Ireland. Simply put: it's safer (and not nessecarily because peope have been staing at home. In Berlin they most certainly have not). Nothing to do with political cowardice.

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Can't speak for others but today was one of the worst days I've seen since the lockdown started in terms of people not respecting the guidelines. There was nothing to suggest there was a problem at all based on the volume of people out and about. Lots of youths on bikes, and I spotted three of them sitting on the grass, hanging out. Not that they're the only demographic at fault. Plenty of middle-aged types out in groups, mostly dog walkers, stopping to have a chat with no distancing.

I can't call what I saw today a lockdown. To me there was no discernible difference from what I saw compared to last year, or any other year. The message from the government appears to be falling on deaf (or dumb, or both) ears.

Yeah but again I will say this for the nth time- there is absolutely no evidence of outbreaks or spread of the virus in outdoor environments, in fact studies have shown the opposite.
Getting sun also goes a long way to giving your body the tools to fight the virus should you get it.

People can't stay inside indefinitely and it's only right that they get outside on such a lovely sunny day.
More power to them, no need to be following stupid rules which have been shown to fail in other countries.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Other counties at least set out their plans in advance, we wait until the last minute. They needed to give people a bit of hope and something to look forward to. Instead we've just got basically threatened with another 2 weeks.

And threatened by an un-elected civil servant at that. Any decent media would have been allover that plonkers threats. Instead they were nodding like lap dogs spreading the message.

alwald wrote: »

How do you know that?

You gave us a vivid picture of it and your activities in your post.

road_high wrote: »

You gave us a vivid picture of it and your activities in your post.

That's your definition of perfect life lol :pac:.

prunudo wrote: »

And this is what really got to me about Leo's comments yesterday, no talk of a plan, no mention of hope, just threatening the bold children with further restrictions if they didn't behave.
I was pleasantly surprised to read some of the comments on this thread as of late between boards, other social media I've felt that I'm surrounded by people who want to see current restrictions contuine for as long as possible.
I'll be honest, if they don't relax even the 2km limit on May 5th I'll crack up. All the 'tools' that I used during the financial crash to maintain decent mental health have been taken and I'd fear for my sanity if these current restrictions last much more.

Excellent post, the cure shouldn't be worse than the disease and peoples mental health will suffer if they don't begin to ease things on the 5th.

I'm one of the lucky ones in that my job is classed as essential so still working and live in a rural area so can get out and about.

I can't even imagine what it's like being out of work and cooped up all day every day.

I'd crack up

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Careful or Doctor holohan will give you a ruler across the wrist for talking out you bold boy.

Address him by his proper title.

He has proclaimed himself 'Ireland's Curtain Twitcher in Chief' (ICTIC for short).

alwald wrote: »

That's your definition of perfect life lol :pac:.

Compared to a hell of a lot of people right now- yes it is. And in the future as the unavoidable job losses and public spending cuts bite. People are going to suffer very hard, especially those dependent on a decimated state

Blueshoe wrote: »

They were able to say that there is more movement of the public and showed some statistics given by Apple.

Why are Apple sharing people's data with the government?
Nobody seems to have noticed or been bothered by it

The intrusion into privacy and obstruction of liberty forever more is something we should of objected to when we had the chance. Micheal D signed in laws prematurely