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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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Continuation of the "Relaxation of restrictions" from here.

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road_high

alwald wrote: »

How do you know that?

You gave us a vivid picture of it and your activities in your post.

easypazz

alwald wrote: »

How do you know that?

He is pulling your leg;)

road_high

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Other counties at least set out their plans in advance, we wait until the last minute. They needed to give people a bit of hope and something to look forward to. Instead we've just got basically threatened with another 2 weeks.

And threatened by an un-elected civil servant at that. Any decent media would have been allover that plonkers threats. Instead they were nodding like lap dogs spreading the message.

alwald

road_high wrote: »

Well aren't you lucky to lead such a wholesome perfect life? Clearly you don't live in a cramped apartment with 3 kids, abusive partner, no garden, poor cooking skills etc. But who cares as long as life is super up on Alwald Mountain.

How do you know that?

normanoffside

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Can't speak for others but today was one of the worst days I've seen since the lockdown started in terms of people not respecting the guidelines. There was nothing to suggest there was a problem at all based on the volume of people out and about. Lots of youths on bikes, and I spotted three of them sitting on the grass, hanging out. Not that they're the only demographic at fault. Plenty of middle-aged types out in groups, mostly dog walkers, stopping to have a chat with no distancing.

I can't call what I saw today a lockdown. To me there was no discernible difference from what I saw compared to last year, or any other year. The message from the government appears to be falling on deaf (or dumb, or both) ears.

Yeah but again I will say this for the nth time- there is absolutely no evidence of outbreaks or spread of the virus in outdoor environments, in fact studies have shown the opposite.
Getting sun also goes a long way to giving your body the tools to fight the virus should you get it.

People can't stay inside indefinitely and it's only right that they get outside on such a lovely sunny day.
More power to them, no need to be following stupid rules which have been shown to fail in other countries.

stephenjmcd

setanta1984 wrote: »

Its soul-destroying to see country after country around europe announce their plans to reopen while we sit here in the dark. It's depressing.

Other counties at least set out their plans in advance, we wait until the last minute. They needed to give people a bit of hope and something to look forward to. Instead we've just got basically threatened with another 2 weeks.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Well you see Germany, Austria Portugal etc have actual governments, not an assortment of cowards who live and die by what's said about them on social media.

Germany has done a lot more testing and has much better figures than Ireland. Simply put: it's safer (and not nessecarily because peope have been staing at home. In Berlin they most certainly have not). Nothing to do with political cowardice.

FintanMcluskey

setanta1984 wrote: »

Its soul-destroying to see country after country around europe announce their plans to reopen while we sit here in the dark. It's depressing.

Spain reopened before Ireland. The inquest into the lack of action in Ireland will hopefully deliver justice to prevent anything like this happen in the future

road_high

setanta1984 wrote: »

Its soul-destroying to see country after country around europe announce their plans to reopen while we sit here in the dark. It's depressing.

We were always decades behind the rest of the continent in most regards. Not surprising in this instance. So many here are incapable of independent or critical thought. They must be told what is correct by someone else. How we managed to eventually become a liberal democracy is a mystery with such a huge wedge of people crying out for a police enforced nanny state.

JRant

Irish Aris wrote: »

as much as I would like to see them in person, I would be reluctant to break the restrictions. I would of course be very careful and we would definitely maintain the social distancing. My main concern would be using the public transport, and for that I plan to wear a mask.
Anyway, one week away from the ann canouncement, let's see how this will play out. Based on Simon Harris' latest comments I'm not hopeful at all, but as we say in Greece "hope dies last"

You should only ever do what you feel comfortable with. Harris is completely inept at the best of times so listening to him and the CMO (who thinks he runs the place now) should come with a government warning

CruelSummer

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Can't speak for others but today was one of the worst days I've seen since the lockdown started in terms of people not respecting the guidelines. There was nothing to suggest there was a problem at all based on the volume of people out and about. Lots of youths on bikes, and I spotted three of them sitting on the grass, hanging out. Not that they're the only demographic at fault. Plenty of middle-aged types out in groups, mostly dog walkers, stopping to have a chat with no distancing.

I can't call what I saw today a lockdown. To me there was no discernible difference from what I saw compared to last year, or any other year. The message from the government appears to be falling on deaf (or dumb, or both) ears.

I’m so sick and tired of people being made feel guilty for being out and about in fine weather.
The outbreak is in nursing and care homes now. So what if people are sitting on the grass having a chat as long as they’re keeping their distance.

This idea coming from government we’re all being ‘bold’ for living our lives is really annoying me. And more of if again this evening on Six One.
I actually supported the government and Fine Gael in last election but if they don’t wise up they’re lost my support.
God forbid people living within 2km of Salthill walk along the prom for their daily exercise?
Give me a break. The death rate is much lower than thought, our figures don’t even justify this current lockdown never mind an extension.

And to the poster accusing people of endangering their Grandparents...it is up to them to protect themselves if they choose to risk going out & about or meeting grandchildren. It does not in any way justify hundreds of thousands without work, mental health distress, billions lost to the taxpayer, and a totalitarian type response.

We cannot even drive to our nearest Dunnes as ‘there are other supermarkets close by’ we’ve been told at Garda checkpoints. Yes there are & they’re far more expensive. I didn’t give the Gardai or the state permission to tell me where I could do my shop or take away my freedoms if not justified.

LiquidZeb

setanta1984 wrote: »

Its soul-destroying to see country after country around europe announce their plans to reopen while we sit here in the dark. It's depressing.

Well you see Germany, Austria Portugal etc have actual governments, not an assortment of cowards who live and die by what's said about them on social media.

FintanMcluskey

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Can't speak for others but today was one of the worst days I've seen since the lockdown started in terms of people not respecting the guidelines. There was nothing to suggest there was a problem at all based on the volume of people out and about. Lots of youths on bikes, and I spotted three of them sitting on the grass, hanging out. Not that they're the only demographic at fault. Plenty of middle-aged types out in groups, mostly dog walkers, stopping to have a chat with no distancing.

I can't call what I saw today a lockdown. To me there was no discernible difference from what I saw compared to last year, or any other year. The message from the government appears to be falling on deaf (or dumb, or both) ears.

Did you see all this from your house

stephenjmcd

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Can't speak for others but today was one of the worst days I've seen since the lockdown started in terms of people not respecting the guidelines. There was nothing to suggest there was a problem at all based on the volume of people out and about. Lots of youths on bikes, and I spotted three of them sitting on the grass, hanging out. Not that they're the only demographic at fault. Plenty of middle-aged types out in groups, mostly dog walkers, stopping to have a chat with no distancing.

I can't call what I saw today a lockdown. To me there was no discernible difference from what I saw compared to last year, or any other year. The message from the government appears to be falling on deaf (or dumb, or both) ears.

Complete opposite in my area today, not many out on the seafront, checkpoints on the roads leading down, people who were out walking keeping their distance.

But I dont think extending this on the 5th will do anything now, it will have been what 7 weeks of restrictions and you can see in some areas people are at the their limit, time to start the gradual reopening over the course of the next 2 or 3 months.

road_high

alwald wrote: »

You keep whinging too, the whole day...today was a beautiful day, I cooked some delicious meals, went out exercising, cut the grass, played with my kids, opened a beer and here you are whinging.
The anti lockdown merchants are asking for restrictions to be lifted and yet on this beautiful day they are all whinging :pac:.

Well aren't you lucky to lead such a wholesome perfect life? Clearly you don't live in a cramped apartment with 3 kids, abusive partner, no garden, poor cooking skills etc. But who cares as long as life is super up on Alwald Mountain.

setanta1984

Its soul-destroying to see country after country around europe announce their plans to reopen while we sit here in the dark. It's depressing.

easypazz

alwald wrote: »

You keep whinging too, the whole day...today was a beautiful day, I cooked some delicious meals, went out exercising, cut the grass, played with my kids, opened a beer and here you are whinging.
The anti lockdown merchants are asking for restrictions to be lifted and yet on this beautiful day they are all whinging :pac:.

Really don't get your point. I did the same as you today except cut the grass, and now you are in here whinging away

Pot, kettle, Black.

easypazz

stephenjmcd wrote: »

They could well do along with restaurants, VFI and LVA all looking into it with gov, regardless of what some posters will tell you here who are hell bent on seeing them closed until 2021.
Whenever restrictions are lifted I'll firstly be going to see family, then a haircut and then out to the local to catch up with everyone, looking forward to it.

Expect a lot of pubs to become "restaurants" toasted sandwiches, Pizza, etc.

The same as local shops are suddenly becoming DIY outlets and paint depots.

Benimar

polesheep wrote: »

On the basis of what I've seen today the teenagers have decided that they can live without granny.

There are a few adults around my way who clearly feel they have waited long enough for their inheritance.

No, they aren’t socially distancing before someone asks.

stephenjmcd

seamusk84 wrote: »

I’d be really happy if they let pub lounges open to serve food. Surely you could get a pint with your sambo/curry.

Today would be great day for a creamy pint...Bloody hell.

They could well do along with restaurants, VFI and LVA all looking into it with gov, regardless of what some posters will tell you here who are hell bent on seeing them closed until 2021.
Whenever restrictions are lifted I'll firstly be going to see family, then a haircut and then out to the local to catch up with everyone, looking forward to it.

alwald

easypazz wrote: »

So you keep whining, claiming it as fact, and no source.

Yawn.

You keep whinging too, the whole day...today was a beautiful day, I cooked some delicious meals, went out exercising, cut the grass, played with my kids, opened a beer and here you are whinging.
The anti lockdown merchants are asking for restrictions to be lifted and yet on this beautiful day they are all whinging :pac:.

Mr.Nice Guy

Can't speak for others but today was one of the worst days I've seen since the lockdown started in terms of people not respecting the guidelines. There was nothing to suggest there was a problem at all based on the volume of people out and about. Lots of youths on bikes, and I spotted three of them sitting on the grass, hanging out. Not that they're the only demographic at fault. Plenty of middle-aged types out in groups, mostly dog walkers, stopping to have a chat with no distancing.

I can't call what I saw today a lockdown. To me there was no discernible difference from what I saw compared to last year, or any other year. The message from the government appears to be falling on deaf (or dumb, or both) ears.

LiquidZeb

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Does your mammy know that you`re on the internet?

God must've taken you all day to come up with that one. Unfortunately I don't think the standup career is going anywhere for yourself. Back to Mammy's basement.

easypazz

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Sorry to say you will be waiting for a considerable amount of time for that to happen. Legally anyway.

So you keep whining, claiming it as fact, and no source.

Yawn.

Cork Boy 53

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Maybe we can help disinfect the bottle banks which according to Corkboy are going to become epicentres of the virus. Or maybe shooing cyclists.

Does your mammy know that you`re on the internet?

LiquidZeb

polesheep wrote: »

On the basis of what I've seen today the teenagers have decided that they can live without granny.

You should probably spend a little less time watching teenagers. People will get the wrong impression.

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road_high wrote: »

When you ask for evidence of why and what good that would do you get vague cliches about saving lives

No, this is vague...

road_high wrote: »

I’m sceptical of the so called lockdown having any real effect on numbers.

The reproduction rate of the virus was reduced from 4.7 to between 0.5 and one. The number of people being admitted to hospital with the virus falling from 100 people per day to 40 people a day. The number of people in intensive care is also falling. This is not vague

Irish Aris

JRant wrote: »

If they extend the restrictions after such a dramatic drop in transmission then just go visit your friends. There is absolutely no good reason to be locked away from family and friends after May 5th unless they have a bloody good reason for it.
Dropping the ball and allowing nursing and residential homes become hot spots is not going to cut it for the remaining 98% of the population.

as much as I would like to see them in person, I would be reluctant to break the restrictions. I would of course be very careful and we would definitely maintain the social distancing. My main concern would be using the public transport, and for that I plan to wear a mask.
Anyway, one week away from the announcement, let's see how this will play out. Based on Simon Harris' latest comments I'm not hopeful at all, but as we say in Greece "hope dies last"

Charles Babbage

OutTheGap wrote: »

There is an article on it in the Irish Times today and apparently it has worked well in New Zealand. Might be a good first step when they decide to lift the restrictions.

Perhaps you should be able to register 4 people you will meet. Perhaps you could have an anonymous system that sent both people a code.
Although the system would be anonymous, they could still work out the network of contacts and the number of people within one or two degrees.

polesheep

On the basis of what I've seen today the teenagers have decided that they can live without granny.