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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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  • #5672
    Rvsmmnps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Virgin Media News at 5.30 confirmed that 3 Dublin hospitals Mater, Beaumont and I think St. James ICU are at capacity

    As they always are, this was explained a few posts back


  • #5673
    keynes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭keynes


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    One reason for this. Cheltenham.

    Birmingham (en route to Cheltenham) is a now a UK hotspot. Our spineless government have a lot to answer for. Everything they've done has been reactive and meek. Will they put controls on flights coming into Ireland over the summer? Of course not, so we're in for multiple waves of this


  • #5674
    Vivienne23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭Vivienne23


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Virgin Media News at 5.30 confirmed that 3 Dublin hospitals Mater, Beaumont and I think St. James ICU are at capacity

    But they have surge capacity available in high dependency wards for critical care patients


  • #5675
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,445 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    George lee said “bad” with a bit too much effort.

    Hes so depressing to listen to


  • #5676
    jluv
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,897 ✭✭✭jluv


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Rte need to remove George lee off this story and get fergal bowers or someone else ask questions. He’s depressing.

    He's making opinionated statements and then turning them in a question at the very ending. Almost scolding them. I keep yelling at the TV for him to shut up..


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  • #5677
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Virgin Media News at 5.30 confirmed that 3 Dublin hospitals Mater, Beaumont and I think St. James ICU are at capacity

    They have patients (both Covid and non-Covid) in all of their regular ICU beds. That doesn't mean they are at capacity.


  • #5678
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    He is asking the questions I'd be putting to this panel. They are very unwilling to state the bleeding obvious it must be said.
    They are using where we are at present. The caution been really admirable in predicting ahead.


  • #5679
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    The peak is yet to come in France. How can anyone here think we're doing good when we're behind France?


  • #5680
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    alan partridge aha wrote: »
    George Lee is a horrible little man who thrives on giving the nation bad news. Before C19 is was forever dooming and glooming about the environment.

    When he comes on I switch over.

    He also doomed and gloomed about the ecomony when no one else was pre the collapse in 2008


  • #5681
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    joe_99 wrote: »
    UK deaths now at 7097. These are hospital only deaths. I wonder how many are dying outside hospitals e.g. nursing homes? At least we are counting everyone.
    We're not counting any that were not diagnosed with Covid-19

    I understand that is the "international standard" for reporting pandemic figures

    However, unlike Ireland, the UK are also reporting separately any deaths where Covid-19 is mentioned on the death certificate, but those figures take longer to come through

    Hence the UK is counting more widely than Ireland


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  • #5682
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    We had our highest ever death total yesterday!

    It's almost like some people have become desensitized to the fact that these are real people dying everyday... and quite a lot of them. They're not just statistics!

    Just being realistic I'm afraid. Of course it's tragic for the families who are losing loved ones but the nature of this virus is that something like 2% of people who get Infected will die from it. Sadly that's the reality every country is facing not just Ireland.


  • #5683
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    is_that_so wrote: »
    They are using where we are at present. The caution been really admirable in predicting ahead.

    We will be social distancing for as long as there is no vaccine (unless something unexpected changes in the virus itself)


  • #5684
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,445 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Have they got the medical staff to look after the critical cases in ICU?

    Yes clearly they've planned capacity against staff. Watch and listen to the press conference


  • #5685
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Amirani wrote: »
    They have patients (both Covid and non-Covid) in all of their regular ICU beds. That doesn't mean they are at capacity.

    Yes they said in the briefing that of the original 312 beds 138 are available and they plan to surge to 812 ICU beds


  • #5686
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,158 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The safest place to be in the ROI is in prison :p
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #5687
    skallywag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,042 ✭✭✭skallywag


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Rte need to remove George lee off this story and get fergal bowers or someone else ask questions. He’s depressing.

    Great idea, let's sugarcoat it.


  • #5688
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Beasty wrote: »
    We're not counting any that were not diagnosed with Covid-19

    I understand that is the "international standard" for reporting pandemic figures

    However, unlike Ireland, the UK are also reporting separately any deaths where Covid-19 is mentioned on the death certificate, but those figures take longer to come through

    Hence the UK is counting more widely than Ireland
    The CMO has said anyone who has COVID-19 on their death certificate is recorded.


  • #5689
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,158 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Amirani wrote: »
    They have patients (both Covid and non-Covid) in all of their regular ICU beds. That doesn't mean they are at capacity.

    I'm not sure who the lady talking to Zara King but I think she used full for the 3 Dublin hospitals ICUs
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #5690
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    lbj666 wrote: »
    He also doomed and gloomed about the ecomony when no one else was pre the collapse in 2008

    Yes and agriculture dooming and glooming as part of his remit as environment reporter..... I just switch channels when I see him as I find his reporting style utterly depressing


  • #5691
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,199 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Beasty wrote: »
    We're not counting any that were not diagnosed with Covid-19

    I understand that is the "international standard" for reporting pandemic figures

    However, unlike Ireland, the UK are also reporting separately any deaths where Covid-19 is mentioned on the death certificate, but those figures take longer to come through

    Hence the UK is counting more widely than Ireland

    Ireland is counting anyone who dies with Coronavirus as a death. The CMO has said this.


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  • #5692
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,028 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    skallywag wrote: »
    Great idea, let's sugarcoat it.

    I never said to sugarcoat it. But there is a way to ask the right question in an appropriate way and not a doom and gloom way.


  • #5693
    ScummyMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭ScummyMan


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    The peak is yet to come in France. How can anyone here think we're doing good when we're behind France?

    You have been shot down multiple times by multiple people on the sh!te you are spreading, so you have now changed angle. People like you gleefully spreading doom baffle me


  • #5694
    realrebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭realrebel


    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    My aunt was one of the 25 today, an awful feeling.

    Sorry for your loss and may she rest in peace


  • #5695
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    keynes wrote: »
    Birmingham (en route to Cheltenham) is a now a UK hotspot. Our spineless government have a lot to answer for. Everything they've done has been reactive and meek. Will they put controls on flights coming into Ireland over the summer? Of course not, so we're in for multiple waves of this

    It's the 2nd biggest City in England of course it's a bloody hotspot.


  • #5696
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Good to see new cases are stable and deaths down today. Positive!


  • #5697
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    The peak is yet to come in France. How can anyone here think we're doing good when we're behind France?
    What kind of figures would you imagine we should be getting? This is a highly contagious virus for which there is neither vaccine or cure for. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that if people don't cop on we could be losing 60 people a day.


  • #5698
    Bridge93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    Beasty wrote: »
    We're not counting any that were not diagnosed with Covid-19

    I understand that is the "international standard" for reporting pandemic figures

    However, unlike Ireland, the UK are also reporting separately any deaths where Covid-19 is mentioned on the death certificate, but those figures take longer to come through

    Hence the UK is counting more widely than Ireland

    We’re counting everyone the UK is and more. Scotland appear to be the only country in the UK counting nursing home deaths


  • #5699
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I'm not sure if I like this whole pro-WHO tact.


  • #5700
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    The peak is yet to come in France. How can anyone here think we're doing good when we're behind France?

    I mean this in the best possible way. If you get too distressed by how things are, you will do no good for yourself. It is as it is. All we can each do individually is patiently wait.
    There is a great Taoist/Confucian concept called 'wu wei' and it is almost perfect for these times we are in. Doing nothing. Effortless non doing. Watchful waiting. Patient abiding.

    In 2 weeks time we will know so much more, and even more in a month. Now we cannot know or even really predict. We cannot fight against how things are.
    But we can do nothing. Peacefully.
    It is a terrible time for those who suffer badly with this virus, for those who die and their loved ones. It is a terrible time for those charged with going into battle on any front with it. All the rest of us can do is practise wu wei.


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  • #5701
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    Ireland is counting anyone who dies with Coronavirus as a death. The CMO has said this.
    How do they confirm it is "with coronavirus"?

    They state in encompasses:
    "people diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland"

    That requires a test, as I understand it, and indeed as I've already indicated that seems to be the "international standard" for reporting pandemic deaths


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