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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.

    It means the ship is turning but not facing the right direction yet
    It may not be "good" but it's a "good sign"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.
    What they are really looking at is a downward trend. It's a whole lot less now than it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,646 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    My aunt was one of the 25 today, an awful feeling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.

    You're going to have a tough time of it with that line of thinking. We're holding steady that's progress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    A growth in cases is good???

    It's impossible to have a decrease in cases.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Vivienne23 wrote: »
    Could we be getting on top of this !

    I know a local area is getting an isolation centre built by the HSE so they wouldn’t be building it if they thought we didn’t need it , seems conflicting with our numbers , any idea if the city west one is in use ?

    ICU is full and they can't take in new patients now. That's the real problem now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,770 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.

    Because they're saying that the growth in nunber of cases has stayed small. Relatively speaking, it is good.

    But the case numbers are meaningless given what we know about testing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    A growth in cases is good???

    Yes.
    Any growth below 10% Is very good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    My aunt was one of the 25 today, an awful feeling.
    Sorry to hear that. My condolences to you and your family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    May the 25 people who died rest in peace


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Edwina Currie was on Sean O'Rourke this morning and saying that the Irish situation is worse per capita than the UK.
    A load of old crap Edwina.
    O'Rourke did not correct her on this. They have nearly 4 times as many deaths per capita and the only reason that we have more cases per capita is we do more testing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


    What was the average age of the people that passed away today? Probably in or around 80,,they prob had a few underlying illnesses too right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    A growth in cases is good???

    Trolling or naivety? Can't quite figure you out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    ICU is full and they can't take in new patients now. That's the real problem now.

    Stop telling lies


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    My aunt was one of the 25 today, an awful feeling.

    Sorry for your loss

    May she RIP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    It's impossible to have a decrease in cases.

    What? Of course it is, it’s just too soon for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,770 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    ICU is full and they can't take in new patients now. That's the real problem now.

    The normal ICU in the Mater was said to be full. But it still has ICU capacity.

    Quite a way from ICU being full.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.


    It's realistic. Were you expecting zero cases to be announced today and an end to the restrictions tomorrow?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    What? Of course it is, it’s just too soon for that.

    They are counting total accumulative positive tests, so you are wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Speak Now wrote: »
    Not a surge but every death is a tragedy.

    No it’s not. Every single times someone dies it is very sad for loved ones but only certain circumstances are tragic.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    It's not horrible, it's pragmatic. The growth slowing is the best we can hope for right now.

    The growth isn't slowing when we aren't testing enough and people with symptoms waiting to be tested.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    ICU is full and they can't take in new patients now. That's the real problem now.

    That's incorrect, the original ICU beds in some hospitals are full

    They have additional beds


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    branie2 wrote: »
    May the 25 people who died rest in peace

    Bodies are starting to pile up abit now alright


    They expecting 800 to 1000,we're at 210,so a fair bit to go yet, unfortunately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It's impossible to have a decrease in cases.
    In the number of new cases, yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Stop telling lies
    Confirmed that ICUs are at practicable capacity in three of the major hospitals in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,445 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Stop telling lies

    Yup as has been explained it's the original ICU beds in some hospitals that are full, the mater is 18 originally. They all have surge plans and extra capacity


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    UrbanFret wrote: »
    You're going to have a tough time of it with that line of thinking. We're holding steady that's progress.

    We had our highest ever death total yesterday!

    It's almost like some people have become desensitized to the fact that these are real people dying everyday... and quite a lot of them. They're not just statistics!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Stop telling lies

    Did you not listen to the news?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Jesus wibbs as someone who normally contributes brilliantly to most forums we cross paths in that's a very negative post. You didn't strike me as the "sure I'd do better than the guberment" type but the above post does give off more than a hint of this. So anything anyone can do that you'd give actual credit to ?
    I'm cautiously negative Itsso, because we haven't done nearly so well as we could have and we need to face the facts here. We are in the world top ten of percentage dead per million, even with the massive advantage of our low population density and mostly non shared living arrangements. That is not in any way doing well and that feeling has to change if we hope to do better. The list of screwups by our leadership is a long enough one.

    I'm also not saying I'd do better Itsso, I am saying that other nations have done better and we should emulate them, not sit around playing catch up and being reactive rather than proactive. We need to decouple from the WHO advice for a start. Rather not be so slavish to them and have the balls to have some independent thought(and pigs might fly in the HSE). Something that has been seriously lacking.

    The government only shut down Paddy's day after local councils did. A reactive stance and at the eleventh hour. Many businesses had already closed down, or reduced workers and implemented working from home before the government did. The government did nada regarding the risks of events like Cheltenham. The government didn't and still haven't put in health checks or restrictions or quarantine on our borders. The government didn't get serious about providing PPE to our frontline health workers until last week for god's sake. The HSE stated asymptomatic transmission was of very low risk, even if you were living with a covid contact person, a month after the dogs on the street knew this was a nonsense. The government is still dead set against the wearing of masks in public, because the WHO told them to, yet more and more nations are copping on this is major weapon along with hand washing and distancing in stopping the spread of this virus. And they won't change their mind until the WHO tell them to. Never forget the government said it was OK to visit people in care homes not so long ago. Care homes which have seen some of our highest number of deaths. Even when Italy's elderly were already dying like flies and it was known to be clearly targeting the elderly since early January. Our testing has been a bloody farce, with some waiting over two weeks for a result. It's taken until the other day before the government gave the Guards the tools to actually help do their job in reducing the number of idiots in the community spreading this virus.

    And you think we should be positive? I fear we're sheep being led by sheep at this stage and that needs to change now. And since pigs might fly before the HSE get their collective fingers out, we as a people should all do this: Stay the hell at home unless for shopping(once maybe twice a week) and 2km distance exercise. Wear a mask when you're in public. All workers in the public domain should wear masks. Wash your hands before you leave the house and when you get back and use hand sanitiser when out and about if you're in contact with surfaces. That's what I would do and what we all could and should do.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    Do they not include the positive tests from the German lab in the total cases ? A bit odd


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