CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

jluv · 08-04-2020 05:02PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Rte need to remove George lee off this story and get fergal bowers or someone else ask questions. He’s depressing.

He's making opinionated statements and then turning them in a question at the very ending. Almost scolding them. I keep yelling at the TV for him to shut up..

Amirani · 08-04-2020 05:03PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Virgin Media News at 5.30 confirmed that 3 Dublin hospitals Mater, Beaumont and I think St. James ICU are at capacity

They have patients (both Covid and non-Covid) in all of their regular ICU beds. That doesn't mean they are at capacity.

is_that_so · 08-04-2020 05:03PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

He is asking the questions I'd be putting to this panel. They are very unwilling to state the bleeding obvious it must be said.

They are using where we are at present. The caution been really admirable in predicting ahead.

Away With The Fairies · 08-04-2020 05:04PM

The peak is yet to come in France. How can anyone here think we're doing good when we're behind France?

lbj666 · 08-04-2020 05:04PM

alan partridge aha wrote: »

George Lee is a horrible little man who thrives on giving the nation bad news. Before C19 is was forever dooming and glooming about the environment.

When he comes on I switch over.

He also doomed and gloomed about the ecomony when no one else was pre the collapse in 2008

Beasty · 08-04-2020 05:04PM

joe_99 wrote: »

UK deaths now at 7097. These are hospital only deaths. I wonder how many are dying outside hospitals e.g. nursing homes? At least we are counting everyone.

We're not counting any that were not diagnosed with Covid-19

I understand that is the "international standard" for reporting pandemic figures

However, unlike Ireland, the UK are also reporting separately any deaths where Covid-19 is mentioned on the death certificate, but those figures take longer to come through

Hence the UK is counting more widely than Ireland

UrbanFret · 08-04-2020 05:05PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

We had our highest ever death total yesterday!

It's almost like some people have become desensitized to the fact that these are real people dying everyday... and quite a lot of them. They're not just statistics!

Just being realistic I'm afraid. Of course it's tragic for the families who are losing loved ones but the nature of this virus is that something like 2% of people who get Infected will die from it. Sadly that's the reality every country is facing not just Ireland.

Harry Palmr · 08-04-2020 05:05PM

is_that_so wrote: »

They are using where we are at present. The caution been really admirable in predicting ahead.

We will be social distancing for as long as there is no vaccine (unless something unexpected changes in the virus itself)

stephenjmcd · 08-04-2020 05:05PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Have they got the medical staff to look after the critical cases in ICU?

Yes clearly they've planned capacity against staff. Watch and listen to the press conference

Stheno · 08-04-2020 05:06PM

Amirani wrote: »

They have patients (both Covid and non-Covid) in all of their regular ICU beds. That doesn't mean they are at capacity.

Yes they said in the briefing that of the original 312 beds 138 are available and they plan to surge to 812 ICU beds

JP Liz V1 · 08-04-2020 05:06PM

The safest place to be in the ROI is in prison

skallywag · 08-04-2020 05:06PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Rte need to remove George lee off this story and get fergal bowers or someone else ask questions. He’s depressing.

Great idea, let's sugarcoat it.

is_that_so · 08-04-2020 05:06PM

Beasty wrote: »

We're not counting any that were not diagnosed with Covid-19

I understand that is the "international standard" for reporting pandemic figures

However, unlike Ireland, the UK are also reporting separately any deaths where Covid-19 is mentioned on the death certificate, but those figures take longer to come through

Hence the UK is counting more widely than Ireland

The CMO has said anyone who has COVID-19 on their death certificate is recorded.

JP Liz V1 · 08-04-2020 05:08PM

Amirani wrote: »

They have patients (both Covid and non-Covid) in all of their regular ICU beds. That doesn't mean they are at capacity.

I'm not sure who the lady talking to Zara King but I think she used full for the 3 Dublin hospitals ICUs

screamer · 08-04-2020 05:08PM

lbj666 wrote: »

He also doomed and gloomed about the ecomony when no one else was pre the collapse in 2008

Yes and agriculture dooming and glooming as part of his remit as environment reporter..... I just switch channels when I see him as I find his reporting style utterly depressing

AlmightyCushion · 08-04-2020 05:10PM

Beasty wrote: »

We're not counting any that were not diagnosed with Covid-19

I understand that is the "international standard" for reporting pandemic figures

However, unlike Ireland, the UK are also reporting separately any deaths where Covid-19 is mentioned on the death certificate, but those figures take longer to come through

Hence the UK is counting more widely than Ireland

Ireland is counting anyone who dies with Coronavirus as a death. The CMO has said this.

Itssoeasy · 08-04-2020 05:11PM

skallywag wrote: »

Great idea, let's sugarcoat it.

I never said to sugarcoat it. But there is a way to ask the right question in an appropriate way and not a doom and gloom way.

ScummyMan · 08-04-2020 05:11PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

The peak is yet to come in France. How can anyone here think we're doing good when we're behind France?

You have been shot down multiple times by multiple people on the sh!te you are spreading, so you have now changed angle. People like you gleefully spreading doom baffle me

realrebel · 08-04-2020 05:11PM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

My aunt was one of the 25 today, an awful feeling.

Sorry for your loss and may she rest in peace

UrbanFret · 08-04-2020 05:11PM

keynes wrote: »

Birmingham (en route to Cheltenham) is a now a UK hotspot. Our spineless government have a lot to answer for. Everything they've done has been reactive and meek. Will they put controls on flights coming into Ireland over the summer? Of course not, so we're in for multiple waves of this

It's the 2nd biggest City in England of course it's a bloody hotspot.

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 08-04-2020 05:14PM

Good to see new cases are stable and deaths down today. Positive!

UrbanFret · 08-04-2020 05:14PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

The peak is yet to come in France. How can anyone here think we're doing good when we're behind France?

What kind of figures would you imagine we should be getting? This is a highly contagious virus for which there is neither vaccine or cure for. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that if people don't cop on we could be losing 60 people a day.

Bridge93 · 08-04-2020 05:15PM

Beasty wrote: »

We're not counting any that were not diagnosed with Covid-19

I understand that is the "international standard" for reporting pandemic figures

However, unlike Ireland, the UK are also reporting separately any deaths where Covid-19 is mentioned on the death certificate, but those figures take longer to come through

Hence the UK is counting more widely than Ireland

We’re counting everyone the UK is and more. Scotland appear to be the only country in the UK counting nursing home deaths

ACitizenErased · 08-04-2020 05:16PM

I'm not sure if I like this whole pro-WHO tact.

Gynoid · 08-04-2020 05:16PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

The peak is yet to come in France. How can anyone here think we're doing good when we're behind France?

I mean this in the best possible way. If you get too distressed by how things are, you will do no good for yourself. It is as it is. All we can each do individually is patiently wait.
There is a great Taoist/Confucian concept called 'wu wei' and it is almost perfect for these times we are in. Doing nothing. Effortless non doing. Watchful waiting. Patient abiding.

In 2 weeks time we will know so much more, and even more in a month. Now we cannot know or even really predict. We cannot fight against how things are.
But we can do nothing. Peacefully.
It is a terrible time for those who suffer badly with this virus, for those who die and their loved ones. It is a terrible time for those charged with going into battle on any front with it. All the rest of us can do is practise wu wei.

Beasty · 08-04-2020 05:16PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Ireland is counting anyone who dies with Coronavirus as a death. The CMO has said this.

How do they confirm it is "with coronavirus"?

They state in encompasses:
"people diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland"

That requires a test, as I understand it, and indeed as I've already indicated that seems to be the "international standard" for reporting pandemic deaths

Away With The Fairies · 08-04-2020 05:16PM

ScummyMan wrote: »

You have been shot down multiple times by multiple people on the sh!te you are spreading, so you have now changed angle. People like you gleefully spreading doom baffle me

The sh!the I'm spreading? Can you not see what's happening around Europe. Even our closest neighbour had over 900 deaths today. "Ah but sure we introduced measures earlier"... Like fcuk we did, doctors coming home from holidays and told to go into work unless they showed symptoms. Allowed to get of a plane in Dublin airport and you were free to go anywhere you want without quarantine.

twirlagig · 08-04-2020 05:17PM

Wish this virus would just up and F off with itself...

I find Tony Holohan a great speaker. Probably doesn’t make sense but he calms me down when I’m listening to him.

tobefrank321 · 08-04-2020 05:17PM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

Do they not include the positive tests from the German lab in the total cases ? A bit odd

The fact it was a 6% positive rate rather than 15% tells us these tests were carried out before the tighter conditions for testing, so likely people infected at least 3-4 weeks ago.

Completely pointless adding them in now. Hopefully the 99 who tested positive self isolated.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 08-04-2020 05:18PM

normanoffside wrote: »

They are counting total accumulative positive tests, so you are wrong.

Right... that’s the point to focus on. So if tomorrow there was 100 cases, we’d all shrug because it’s added to a total? Hardly. That’s one of those pedantic points that somebody who likes to say “Well technically” wheels out.

CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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