CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

rossie1977 · 31-03-2020 05:55PM

Just watching a few documentaries on how the Chinese dealt with containing virus on YouTube.

We are seriously half assing it in the west. The amount of work and volunteers the Chinese used and they went door to door calling on homes and disinfecting everywhere (and anybody that's ever been in a Chinese city knows most live in huge highrises with multiple homes per floor).

31-03-2020 05:55PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

In my opinion there is no possibility of the restrictions being lifted for several months.

UK eyeing 6 months, Italy eyeing June. Most governments are simply not telling people the truth in relation to that.

This "two weeks" stuff, "Easter", "end of April" - that's all completely unrealistic.

Open up and we'll be locked down again with an explosion in cases within days.

In that way we are effectively trapped until we have a vaccine.

If you look at Italy for example and the horror they go through - it's flattening out for them but that's only because they have placed an artificial lid on it through a lockdown.

As I said before it's like a pressure cooker - remove the lid and undo everything.

We need a proven tested vaccine ultimately.

I disagree. The UK said that some kind of social distancing would be required for 6 months. Personally I think that will mean that retail reopens with distancing principles applied, cafes and restaurants reopen with rules on spacing of tables, non essential businesses reopen but working from home is still recommended for office workers, and places that promote social gatherings will remain closed (ie pubs are shut and sport is behind closed doors). Travel around the country will be relaxed so people can go to beaches and parks again. Gatherings of greater than x people will be prohibited and can be closed down by the police. And periodically we might see tightening again for periods of a couple of weeks

iamwhoiam · 31-03-2020 05:55PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

How we wish we could see and hug our grandchildren! This is the only thing we've struggled with through the past few weeks.

Same here , I am really struggling not seeing the grandchildren . Skype and Facetime are helping us

josip · 31-03-2020 05:56PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

What do you mean to drop something small? Are you restricting drawings etc going into the house? I would have liked to do that for older relations but I’m nervous sending pages or anything the virus could live on to their house

If you're worried, put them in a letter and hold off for a day before you post it without touching the envelope.
Assuming a post box is on your exercise route.

31-03-2020 05:56PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

New York's Governor Cuomo says they have seen the biggest surge in the rate of hospitalisations in the last 24 hours.

Meanwhile

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244977299486883840

That's the level

It's still early he could go lower.

ChikiChiki · 31-03-2020 05:56PM

Palmach wrote: »

Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.

Yeahhh...... That's not how it works.:rolleyes:

Ficheall · 31-03-2020 05:56PM

Palmach wrote: »

Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.

You're not allowed to kick old people in the back of the head when they're out shopping either. You might as well do that too, you big rebel.

Cody montana · 31-03-2020 05:57PM

“CNN anchor @ChrisCuomo has been diagnosed with Covid-19. The network just informed staffers in New York. Chris is feeling well, and will continue anchoring from home.“

rossie1977 · 31-03-2020 05:57PM

josip wrote: »

They are not "almost at breaking point".
Do you even know how many ICU beds there are in Ireland?

96% of ICU beds were filled pre virus https://www.rte.ie/amp/1114690/

Danzy · 31-03-2020 05:59PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

96% of ICU beds were filled pre virus https://www.rte.ie/amp/1114690/

ICU beds are nearly always at capacity, the level of patient crisis dictates that.

Strumms · 31-03-2020 05:59PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Lockdowns in Italy and Spain are starting to get to people - that 4 week limit, which has been mentioned in our own briefings.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/tempers-fray-as-coronavirus-lockdown-fatigue-hits-italy-and-spain-1.4216812

Sure, ‘ getting to them ‘....I’d rather be bored, pissed off and isolated than struggling for breath in a hospital ward.

Jim_Hodge · 31-03-2020 05:59PM

Not only leisure cruises affected.

Captain of American aircraft carrier pleads for evacuation
The captain of the US aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt has told the Pentagon that the coronavirus is spreading uncontrollably through his ship and called for immediate help to quarantine its huge crew, two US newspapers reported today.
Captain Brett Crozier wrote in a four-page letter that they had not been able to stem the spread of the COVID-9 virus through the 4,000 crewmembers, describing a dire situation aboard the huge vessel now docked at Guam.
"We are not at war. Sailors do not need to die," Crozier wrote, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
"The spread of the disease is ongoing and accelerating," Crozier wrote, referring to the ship's "inherent limitations of space."
He asked to be able to quarantine nearly the entire crew onshore at Guam, saying keeping them all on board the ship was an "unnecessary risk."
The Chronicle said that more than 100 aboard the warship had been confirmed infected with Covid-19.

JP Liz V1 · 31-03-2020 06:00PM

Cody montana wrote: »

“CNN anchor @ChrisCuomo has been diagnosed with Covid-19. The network just informed staffers in New York. Chris is feeling well, and will continue anchoring from home.“

He is NY mayor brother

statesaver · 31-03-2020 06:00PM

Cody montana wrote: »

“CNN anchor @ChrisCuomo has been diagnosed with Covid-19. The network just informed staffers in New York. Chris is feeling well, and will continue anchoring from home.“

Oh no, not Fredo

Larbre34 · 31-03-2020 06:01PM

The HSE is raising ICU bed provision to between 500 and 700 by Easter weekend, mainly through the private hospital facilities freeing up space in the tertiary public hospitals

Do keep up.

Cody montana · 31-03-2020 06:01PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

He is NY mayor brother

Yes I know.

America is in big trouble.

Danzy · 31-03-2020 06:01PM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

Mortality rate in Italy is now 11.7%.

Even higher in reality as so many are not treated and due at home. Multiples according to Italian Doctors.

The disease is manageable in small numbers but shocking outside a certain level.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 31-03-2020 06:01PM

Good long-read on vaccine development. It’ll be a while, folks!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/inside-the-race-to-develop-a-coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1585441937

JP Liz V1 · 31-03-2020 06:02PM

Looks like WrestleMania (WWE) still going ahead this weekend without crowd and some superstars, two day event, Vince never lets anything get in his way

Away With The Fairies · 31-03-2020 06:02PM

Palmach wrote: »

Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.

Tell me how things are improving when deaths keep going up?

timmy_mallet · 31-03-2020 06:03PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Our hospitals are almost at breaking point with over 120 cases in ICU. Italy has over 4000 in a serious/critical condition.

There will be more restrictions. For how long, I don't know.

How much more restrictions can there be? Not going to the bloody shops? Because that's the only possibly reason for community transmission at the moment.

josip · 31-03-2020 06:03PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

96% of ICU beds were filled pre virus https://www.rte.ie/amp/1114690/

Cancelling elective procedures shortly after, has meant that a lot of those beds remained free once they were no longer occupied.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0316/1123584-hospitals-move-to-cancel-appointments-elective-surgery/

timmy_mallet · 31-03-2020 06:03PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Tell me how things are improving when deaths keep going up?

They are a lagging indicator.

timmy_mallet · 31-03-2020 06:04PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Looks like WrestleMania (WWE) still going ahead this weekend without crowd and some superstars, two day event, Vince never lets anything get in his way

Him and Trump are mates, aren't they?

SuperTortoise · 31-03-2020 06:04PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Looks like WrestleMania (WWE) still going ahead this weekend without crowd and some superstars, two day event, Vince never lets anything get in his way

He's like a pound shop Trump that fella.

mean gene · 31-03-2020 06:04PM

Me old man is over 70 and wants to get his pension Friday is there some waiver form we can get to keep him indoors.

Cheers for any info

darced · 31-03-2020 06:04PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

John Oliver is gas on this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElIf2DBrWzU

The most unfunny man in the universe.

Achasanai · 31-03-2020 06:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I would say 100% compliance here where I am in a very built up part of Drogheda. I really dont understand this "people still out partying" stuff.... really?

Anywhere I have gone is eerily quiet, no kids out at all and there are 900 houses in my estate. I think people have really copped on .

I would also say that telling people they can only exercise within 2km means there WILL be a lot of people out in built up areas, you cant avoid it. For that reason I dont think the 2km rule has been thought through.

In my area, it's a lot quieter, but there are still people that aren't getting it. Still people walking around in twos, occasional families meeting people they know and stopping for the chats, older people clearly over 70 going for their walks. I have a feeling the guy in one of the apartments is still having people over (or he's gotten very loud of late).

But I think the aim of these restrictions is knowing that there will be a small percentage who will always flout the rules. It's annoying but as long as the vast majority of us adhere, it will help stop rampant spreading.

Kermit.de.frog · 31-03-2020 06:06PM

darced wrote: »

The most unfunny man in the universe.

That's very funny :cool:

josip · 31-03-2020 06:07PM

mean gene wrote: »

Me old man is over 70 and wants to get his pension Friday is there some waiver form we can get to keep him indoors.

Cheers for any info

Yes, there's a temporary form that allows you to get 5 collections, not weeks.
So you could stretch it out further if you collect a few weeks at a time.
After that, there's a permanent form that needs witnessing by someone other than the collector.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP